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TOTAL Grp 05 - ¢
Gzp 06 ~ w avon
Sep 08 wu Ravel I
Srp 08 = \
Sep 08
TOTAL Grp 06 - w
Grp 07 - d avon I
23 yor}
25 mayo. I
Ze ayo. I
Ip RasoL
: 3a/01
23 aayo2
23 aaron
23 mayor
TOTAL Gzp 07 - D
stteeteteeresteees
TOTAL Allowances
esp un anor
Gep tl — 7 aa/0i
ep il =r aasor
aor aavor
ri aavor
it aavo1
if axvo1
It aR/OL
ry ax/al
TOTAL Gzp 11 -
Gzp 22 - Bayo
Grp 12-7 AA/OL
ep 12-3 aavo1
Gep 12-7 Aa/02
Gep 12-7 anyo?
TOTAL Grp 12 - 7
Grp 12- axon
orp 3k RA/OL
IR mayor
rR aayo1
rR AaAyOL
ZR aayor
IR an/ol
Tk aAN/OL
rR ax/OL
TOTAL Grp 13 - &
Grp as -r anyon
Srp ld - 2 anal,
Grp 14-1 AAsOn
Grp 14-1 aa/ol it
Gzp 1427 pron:
Gep 14-7 an0L
Grp 14 = x ett
Grp 14-5 aNOLS
4
Za
ig
37
127
7
a
4
>
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27.00% I
46402 ee
735.08
362.89
“nin / 3
Zz
22907.29 2
6254.53 — ;
1443877
3791.52
5614.07 7
3991.55
6782.91
4318.04 7
1526.81 7% awe
‘387, i]
Bea THR 205
2038.00 °
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PRoDUcT surae J
Grp .14-— 7 aa01g
3
TOTAL zp 14 — 7
TOTAL Pensions
PER Midi: aRy02
P RAO
RR/OL
AR/OI
AA/O
RA/OL
BA/O2
Bayon
TOTAL Pea mi)
Setttederstiaaagap
TOTAL Milk Tokens pen
SOOBRY Tomar
Penilons an atlouances - ciiene copy
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vouume value
— 1600.25
Bsiqy MHS Qs 79ste3g
w7" END oF azpoar ~e!
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MIgsegr
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WAL wy AN
Ba Sati
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Wi op 14 ‘SQ
ne
lou h§ Bo
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1!
Lage 1 hee
_ 206.05 $26.05
Total HE gp 06 AL 735,06
ML gp 07
gp" price vOLUKE aLUE
3.20 1 39.20
50:00 3 130.00
51.60 i 5.60
33.55 4 2th20
56.80 2 6LLE0
a 1 35
or. 5 ahs
90.95 8 Te.
107.40 1 107.40
113-60 5 568.00
143.20 Bris.
143.60 3B
164.84 1 igh:
177:00 1 177-00
200 255000.
206.40 3 tasr-60
214.20 § 1927.80
271-00 5 1355.00
Em 13 3806.40
363.80 5 1ats.00
Total «AT gp O73
os 2 . AE gp It
: RLU
2.40
ise
550
5B
rat
16
17:38
10.85
13.73
55.60
DR
14:35
0:00
16,90
130
6.86
Be
re
23.50
103-80
3023
31.50 I
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; B.
es
37
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Total HO gp, 14
PRA wilk (HD) -
sar ” PRICE” VOLUME
asst
22706. 14
2437455
0344.66
Sub Total: a 0.00 ~
SUMMARY TOTAL: SATE (Shar ze
see END OF RR HE 4ST 5
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173.22 1 173.22
Total KI 9p 06 2 7.04 I
NI gp 07 :
PRICE — VOLUME wmeue ;
35.80 2 71.60
50.00 I 50°00
53.55, 1 53:55
274.00 1 ae
Total NI gp 07 5 446.15
NI gp it
PRICE VOLUME awe
Geil. aM I au
3.10 , 1 3.10
nie Ot Me
65 1 465
6.26 1 ne
BO 4 rey
~ a Lait Proiel 1 :
f 10.40 7 1
ites I
wae
1
1
i
Hee hse 1
2
1
1
1
3
1
1
1
i
2
i
1
i
t
i
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i
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4b cconntdle bem eek &
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KI gp 13
9p VOLUME VALUE
t 10,04
1 14.07
t 20.93
1 3.3
1 BR
1 5,
25
1
1
a4
220
a ete ee me ee
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4
Bess
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134.63
2907.29
Total WL gp 13 al
NE gp 14
i
} Total KI ap 14
POR ailk (HE) :
PRICE = YOLUKE
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AL Zest sem
Total
NE gp 14
1
1
80 1
00 1
i
69.22 1
AL it O.AL
al 1 Ril
6.50 2 153.00 :
158 1 71.35 {
71.85 fs 71.65 a
8148 i 81.48
81.70 F 408-50
82.51 1 82.51
93.35 1 93.95
94.74 1 94.74
99.66 i 99.66
109.62 1 109.62
110.00 t 410.00
120.40 i $20.40
431.95 1 431.95
135.00 7 945.00
te 4 148.74
143.20 a 298.4
163.40 1 163.40
ee. ah 1 22M
he I Total «Wr gp td 38388155
pan wilk (HDD
PRICE VOLUME VALUE
4 0,00 1
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PRICE
21.86
7
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. : AI gp 14 ”
PRICE = (VOLUN
40000 1 ‘
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POST OFFICE INVESTIGATION DEPARTME!
REGINA V. EXHIBIT No.
SIGNED. DATE
JUSTICE OF THE PEACE/CLERK TO. MAGS. COURT]
Bie FenSiod ans ALiAcES
DESCRIPTION OF TEM x0 Afinkhadp Bir sMue
Wak, ENDED 2123/2)
Inloit iG Net S
IDENTIFYING MARK Actos LAB REF. NO!
Telz
M.C. ACT 1980.5.102, C.J. Act 1967.S.9._M.C. Rules 1981.A.70.
VIDENTIFY THE EXHIBIT OESCRIBED AS THAT REFERRED TO IN THE,
STATEMENF "8s ™ED BY ME
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PENSIONS AND ALLOWANCES
OFFICE NAME: Brookfield OFFICE CODE: 417043
ADDRESS: 213 Tennent street
C/A WEEK No: $2
WEEK ENDING: 24/03/2001
Belfast
8713 366 TIME: 14/03/2001 14:05
This summary should be despatched with the ‘CASH ACCOUNT.
GROVE wUmER OF oPDERS TOTAL AMOUNT
NO FPS?7/PS7 PENSIONS ALLOWANCES £ e
1 o 0.90
2 0 0.00
3 ° 0.00
4 Q 0.90
Child/one parent 5 707“ 20203.80-~
War Pension 6 17" 1388.24
Dis Living All 7 206, —36267.55.~
Family cre 8 0 0.00
D.O.H. 9 ° 0.00
Pension/tnesupp is ° 0.00
- Income Support 12 e999 ~ 62008.90_~
i Ind Inj/Death sen 12 45 1642,92_~ WA
feGR
: Ret Pension/a2 13 see iL ices
Sickness Zen/a1) ~ 9G. IEE fe
RESERVED
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TomaL Srp 05 - ¢
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exp
Grp 06.
Grp
Grp
TOTAL Grp 07 - 5
pegerececretetssrss
06
06
06
906
vouovcove
TOTAL Allowances
Szp
Gep
Srp
Grp
Sep
Grp
Sep
a
ab
ii
12
x
1
I
‘TOTAL Grp 12 - I
are
23
er
R
B
R
R
RA/OL
AR/OL
an/or
aasol
AR/OL
AR/OL
BR/OL
BA/OL
aA/OL
AR/O1
aR/OL
AR/OL
RA/OL
RA/OL
BA/OL
RA/OL
BA/OL
Aa/OL
aAN/OL
AR/OL
avon
AA/OL
AR/OL
3
2
8
1
3
7
1
SORA NOY,
20203.80
5363.00
$10.26
328.24
361.19
104.40 7
1358.24
«201.707
(392.50 7°
40.00.
re
100.007
27439.917
1220.20¢
726.40 ~
Bees
36267.95
57829.59
7065.02
A
c
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TOTAL Pensions =
FEA Milic * anvo1
RA/OI
AR/OL
aol
DER MELE a/01 .
POA Milk aval
Pea Milk aA/OL Be
POA Milk BR/OL
TOTAL Pam MAL
TOTAL Mitk Tokens Pon 4 aan 0.00
SUMMARY TOTAL 3 .
I 259737 O
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F
‘A na TE YP
pe ar
"284
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13:07 08/03/2001 CH
Puan A ~ Client Copy
oiheg.
Allowances
HI yp 05
Total «= KE gp 0S 8ST.
M9 seace onan
3557
56.80—
H.9s—- oe
2000 H
206.407 f
363.802
Total =I gp 0723 (AL. 70
NI 99 ti ~ :
Ww
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Total AL gp AL 107
NTP 12 ice voLune
21.86 s
Total
MI gp 13
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Total RI gp 13 170 11423. =
AE gp 14
PRICE. VOLUME
45.30 1
Geis. BOs
AN
3S:
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‘SN
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Total “
Pah ilk (HTD BYRD
PRICE UDLUNE VALUE 9)
fu 0.06 I
= ‘Total Peek KD] an
t
22K
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pen ailk (MI)
Pal
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Total Pah wilk (HD r 0.00
TOTALS: YOLUKE VALUE
Allowances
Grp 05 - C iy 257.65.
Grp_07 - D 23 (4201.70
sub Total: Rh 453.35
Pensions
Grp 1 - I ioz 1065.02
Grp 12 - 207.67
Grp 13. - R 170 142308 ah
Grp th - f 3g uae GS
Sub Totals 30 REIL 0
ilk Tokens PA erage
8A Kilk i 0.90 RR
sab Total: fy 9,00
SUNRARY TOTAL: 37 ot
ee END OF REPORT HE ai
a
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22S 236 I
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13:47: 12/03/2001 Cap:S1 Berd! SUE RA
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Band A ~ Client Copy
Tatal
AI gp 06
Total
NI gp 07
Tota
ML gp
HL gp 05 = 303 (8676.80
PRICE VOLUKE
163.82 1
173.28 2
NI ap 06
PRICE —VOLUR
3.80
00
33
6175
149,60
NE gp 07
PRICE VOLUME
AO PUN ae
Pie rece
MBRARHK SS.
S300
Ere
ai
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HE gp it
PRICE
14.07 7
VOLUME
2
fore ne rast
Oe OPO OO OOO a PO OND anew Siew
+
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RESERARSLSAVS:
86.66
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TOTALS: VoLUnE VALUE
Allowances
Grp 05 - c 303 (8676.80 I
Grp 06 - W 3 510.26 }
Grp 0? - p $ 352.50
Sub Total: 32 9579.56
Pensions
Breit - I eee pcanae
Srp 3k EIser hae Seis I
fd Ra Ae A I
nals i &
Ailk Tokens F&A Ss
PRA Milk FR €9 I ‘
Sub Total: ms)
SUARARY TOTAL! fea Petite A
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SLOT HES HHL ny MEK RA Ment
REGina v.
EXHIBIT No, :
SIGNED,
Date
YUSTICE OF THE PEACE/CLERK To,
MAGS. CouRTI
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Bus Rag AAD Aten aicee
Fee Rtok Rey fest oP Ace
EASES 21/55/51
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UB EF No,
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PENSIONS AND ALLOWANCES
‘WEPERIRRORFICE COVE: 1817043 «<<
C/A WEEK NO: 52
WEEK ENDING: 21/03/2001
THE: 21/63/2001 14:04
with the CASB accounr.
GROUP NUMBER OF ORDERS rorhn avout
. NO FPS7/?S7 PENSIONS ALLOWANCES & P
vovane ay 0 0,00
MOD.tnd Injy 2 ° 0.00
sop AR. ° 0.00
4 ° 0.00
child/one sexent 5 252 7087.35 2
waz Pension $s 16 1273.37-~
Dis Living ALL 7 181. 31440.23-~
Family credit 3 ° 0.00
2.0.8. 9 ° 0.00
Pension/Incsups 10 0 0.00
Income Support ea 41766.20
Ind Inj/Death Sen 12 49 7 1610.13 U~
Ret Pension/aLd 13 sos ~ $3935.29.~
Sickness 3en/ali 14 230 4 21721.26_-
1s 0 0.00
16 0 0.00
17, ° 0.00.
1a ° 0.00
TOTALS: 0 yor, 4497 159004.53 /
Milk Token ? & A 1467
P RevoRT eee
FULLY CHECKED
POLIS.
PAID ORDER UNIT
ASHLENE CASSON
alas,
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POST OFFICE INVESTIGATION DEPARTMENT
REGINA V. EXHIBIT No.
SIGNED. oaTE
JUSTICE OF THE PEACE CLERK TO. MAGS. CO
« Dis Evgeny and Aus eices
DESCRIPNON OF EM Foc RaokRete er ofisce
n
Teck En pepe art
AcoiNnde® Wet of
IDENTIFYING MARK LAB REF,
Tel+
MC. ACT 1980.5.102, C.J. Act 1967.S.9. M.C. Rules 1981.A.70.
_ MIDENTIFY THE EXHIBIT DESCRIBED AS THAT REFERRED TO IN
STATEMENT. MAGE AND. SIGNED BY ME
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PENSIONS AND ALLOWANCES
e ? Brookfield OFFICE CODE: 1917943
ADDRESS: 213 Tennent street
C/A WEEK NO: 02
Belfest WEEK ENDING: 0/06/2001
BT13 i166 TIME: 04/04/2001 12:50
ched with the CASH ACCOUNT.
This sumary should b= d
GROUP mMBER OF onpERs rata
NO £P87/257 PENSIONS ALuowaNcES «“s >
MOD ARMY 1 i ° 0.00
MOD. Ind Injy 2 t ° _ =
MOD.AIR 3 } o. 0.00
4 f 0 0.00
5 : 38 13302.05-—~
6 14 1072. 72-7
7 21S" 34515.10_-
8 ° 2,00
2.0.8. 9 o 0.00
Pension/rn io : ° . 0.00 af
Income Support a eT THR $1836.20 TILoS WO
Ind Inj/Death 3en 12 ‘ 3F BR Rettve0 {USSG Fe A VA
13 I 1221 aS7eS~6¢ AGTE-GUR KH
14 { 2727 26276.76-~
15 4 ~ 0.00
FOR 16 5 o 0.00
a 17 £8 (0.90
18 ° 0.00
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TOTAL Gra 0S - ¢
@zp 06 -
Grp 06 - w.
- Grp 06 - 21827
{ Grp 06 - w 92.80~
Grp 06 - Ww 273.99~
TOTAL Grp 05 - #
256.30 ~
$315.42
23688.53-
2316.84 —
vovuvveD
33525,10
TOTAL Grp 07 -
49889.87
tetteteestereecee,
TOTAL Allowances
Gr a.
Grp 12
Sep 12
Grp
- aaa 23084,0s7
2 Ra/O: 153 seerecss [oQ@-23 A '
: aoe 73 4272.78 -
: savor 20 1438/02 —
: aa/al, 33- f4e3.13-
: bag ul 10388133 -
: Ag re s645.87-
Grp 13-R iS 3090.79—
a islk Pv, nas 1 1a3045
42Q
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SRODUCT 1600.3 7 (F
2142 cf
1
Pesce. 22 R
POR Milk ARIOL
TOTAL PLA
dtieeeeteetet reese
TOTAL Milk Tokens PGA
sumapy TOTAL
Total
HI gp 06
Total
KI gp 07
Total
MI op Ut
MI gp 05
PRICE — VOLUME
163.82 1
173.22 i
NI gp 06 2
PRICE VOLUME
35.60 2
0.00 i
53.55 1
56.80 t
67.75 i
214,20 i
HI gp 07 7
®
513.90
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NI gp 12
Total
NL gp 13
J
(7)
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Total Wa a
Total AI. gp 18
Pea ailk (ND)
PRICE VOLUME
Total P&A wilk (NI) 4S
yoTAts: VOLUME ud
Allowances
. “i = Grp 05 -C 195 5817.55
° Grp 06 - ¥ 2 “yb
Grp 07 - > 5a
sub Total: 204 6765.83
ns (2GUA
Grp 11 - 5
Grp 12 - I tae
Grp 13. - 4 28084.06
ora t walsh
Sub Total: 56
Rik Tokens PER I QSER SUESIG St
PRA Hilk 6 0 RR
sub Totals 6 0.00
SURNARY TOTAL: S560
ese EHD OF
REPORT ¥e 1888-8
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43:32 03/04/2001 CAPL02
P and A ~ Client Copy
Bilowances
‘AL gp 05
Total
AT gp 06
PRICE volute VALUE
NE gp 07
PRICE VOLUME
56.80 1
Total NE gp 07
HL gp 18
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3.05"
i
1
t
1
1
1
i
5
1
1
1
1
1
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1
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1
1
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1
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1
1
1
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1
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200.75
Total = MT gp 11862 1035,62
Man
PEGS etree,
SUSRen ERE:
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$31.41
142.82
Total RE gp 13
NE gp 48
PRICE
Tokai AL gp 44
Pea eilk ‘HID
PRICE
Total PUA eilk (HID
ar
TOTALS: YOLUNE we #8 ?
Allowances :
Srp 05 =o 44 1105.99
inp 8 - 0 1 144.62
Grp 07 - D 1.56.80
alae nt
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Total = AT gp 1S SS 6340,82
PRA wilk (HI)
PRICE VOLUME VALUE
0,00
Total PEA Ritk (RD
TOTALS: VOLUME:
Allowances _
Grp 05 - C 4
Grp 06 = W 1
Grp 0? - D 1
Sub Total: &
i
sp il -
ipsa le
Grp 14 - f 1
sub Total: 36
Wilk Tokens P & &
woe PRA ALD ; I
Sub Total: 42 .
SUMMARY TOTAL: 422 ee
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RESPONSIBILITY FOR POST OFTICE STOCK AND CASH
CREDIT STOCK OF STAMPS ETC.
The Subpostmaster on taking up his appointment is supplied with suitable Post Office
stock, the amount of which is fixed by the Regional General Manager.
CASH BALANCE
w
The Subpostmaster is permitted to hold Post Office Counters Ltd-tash normal to meet
payments at his sub-office after due allowance has been made for expected receipts and
in accordance with official accounting and security instructions.
The Subpostmaster is expressly forbidden to make use of the balance due to Post Office
Counters Ltd for any purpose other than the requirements of the Post Office service:
and he must, on no account apply to his own private use, for however short a period,
any portion of Post Office Counters Ltd funds entrusted to him. He aust also be
careful to keep the Post Office money separate from any other monies. Misuse of Post
Office Counters Ltd cash may render the offender liable to prosecution and, or, the
termination of his Contract of Appointment.
ACCOUNTS
‘The Subpostmaster must ensure that accounts of all stock and cash entrusted to him by
Post Office Counters Ltd are kept in the form prescribed by Post Office Counters Ltd.
Fle must immediately produce these accounts, and the whole of his sub-office cash and
stock for inspection whenever so requested by a person duly authorised by the
Regional General Manager.
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ight reserved
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SECURITY OF CASH, STAMPS ETC.
The Subpostmaster is held strictly responsible for the safe custody of cash, stock of all
kinds and other Post Office Counters Ltd property, papers and documents, whether
held by himself or by his Assistants, and should keep them in a place of security,
The Subpostmaster is responsible for maintaining a standard of security sufficient to
enable him to meet the obligations laid on him by paragraph 5 for the safe keeping of
Post Ciffice Counters Ltd cash and stock placed in his care. If any circumstances arise
which lead him to doubt whether he can do so he should immediately consult the
Tn deciding the standard of security which it would be reasonable (o require under
paragraph 6 Post Office Counters Ltd will have regard to (a) the circumstances in
which the Subpostmaster was appointed, and in particular the standard of security
then accepted; (b) the length of time since his appointment: and (c) any particular
circumstances affecting the sub-office which appear to be relevant.
All vouchers for payments e.g. Postal Orders, Allowance Dockets etc., should be placed
ina suitable receptacle (cardboard box or strong envelope), labelled “Paid Vouchers”
and at the close of business kept separately from cash and stock in another secure place,
such as a locked drawer or cupboard.
The Subpostmaster must be careful to keep his stocks of ali kinds in such a manner that
they remain in good condition. The stocks must be protected against damp and dust,
Datestamps used for authenticating documents (e.g. Postal Orders) or stamping
correspondence must be kept in a position on the counter where they’ are out of reach
of members of the public, When not needed for work they must be locked away.
especially at night.
6.
Regional General Manager.
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8.
9.
10.
u.
Precautions should be taken to guard against the risk of fire.
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12. The Subpostmaster is responsible for all losses caused through his own negligence,
carelessness or error, and also for losses of all kinds caused by his Assistants.
Deficiencies due to such losses must be made good without delay.
15. The financial responsibility of the Subpostmaster does not cease when he relinquishes
his appointment and he will be required to make good any losses incurred during his
term of office which may subsequently come to li
GAINS
14. Surpluses may be withdrawn provided that any subsequent charge up to the amount
withdrawn is nade good mediately
THEFT OR BURGLARY
whether or not official
15. Ifa theft or burglary is committed or attempted at a sub-offic
cash or stock is stolen, the facts must be reported at once to the Police and to the
Regional General Manager by the person who first makes the discovery.
MISSING OR STOLEN STOCK
Ifa Subpostmaster considers that any stock items have been accidentally lost, or stolen
16.
ine shouid make a report, in accordance with Appendix 1, as quickly as possible to the
Regional General Manager.
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COUNTER LOSSES A Subpostmaster may exceptionally not be required to make good
17.
the full amount of certain losses at his office. If he feels entitled to relief in making
good a loss he should apply to the Retail Network Manager.
18. THEFT OR BURGLARY The question of granting relief will depend upon whether the
Subpostmaster has taken reasonable precautions to safeguard the official cash and
property.
19. FRAUD All cases of fraud or attempted fraud should be reported immediately to the
Regional General Manager.
(APPENDIX 1 FOLLOWS)
ccmmicneens ROD
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If at any time any items of stock (including stock of no intrinsic value such as motor vehicle
Ticences) is found to be missing. Steps must be taken at once to ascertain what has
happened to the missing items. ‘The serial numbers must be ascertained (see 2(a)) and
verified by examination of items in stock, and the requisition forms examtined to
discover whether or not any of the items purport to have been issued out of sequence.
All the requisition forms for the previous 3 months must at the same time be
impounded and held for instructions. If, after careful search, the missing items cannot
tly destroyed, a
be found and are thought to have been mislaid only, or inadver!
preliminary report of the loss giving the serial numbers of the items in question must be
sent to the Regional General Manager.
STOLEN [TEMS
If asa result of burglary, break in, theft, or suspected theft any items of stocks are
1
missing the facts should be reported as quickly as possible to the Regional Genera!
Manager.
2 The further details which will be required, and which should be obtained and
submitted to the Regional General Manager at the earliest opportunity, are as follov
(a) The denominations, total values and serial numbers of missing or stolen items, so
far as they are known, with serial numbers of any remaining stocks.
ay date stamp of the sub=office las been stolen: aridif
so, particulars of the type in it when stolen. If the date stamp has not been stolen
a statement should be given which should intimate whether there is a reason to
believe that it has been used upon the stolen items.
A specimen impression of the date stamp and, if it was stolen, particulars of the
type in it when stolen.
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h are thought to show that a theft has heer
A stat’ nt of the circumsta
committed and of the supposed date, time and method of commussion. It should
from the person who last saw the missing
include, if possible, written report
items and the person who first discovered the Joss. The former should say when
the items were last seen, in what place and in what kind of receptacle (locked or
unlocked) they then were. The laiter should state how and when the loss was
discovered and describe exactly the condition of the place and of the receptacle
from which the items were apparently taken.
Particulars of any cheques, including the transaction for which they were
accepted.
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12:57 23/07/2002 Cae BS SU: AA
P and A - Client Copy
Allowances
ME ap 05
CE YOLUME
PRESSE
pgeyrere
Total = ME gp?
‘
j HE go th
Chi \ " PRICE YOLUNE
1.06 2
2.38
uo
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hs
SESS YES ey!
SEASERE SVS
SSFEEOKSS:
ASSSRHGSRBSE
SIBTRBRSS
SSBISRRBSARE
88.20
$8.21
88.64
BB.
89.54
mt
re
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2 {
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1
1
1
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1
1
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1
1
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50.
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Bi
3.
HBVSLRLES
ne pee ne ete ee
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Pere Perte tere
NEALE SSE SRSLRSRR
SSSSSLE SE
SRN
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1
t
1
i
i
21 '
ae ‘
F Jt i
ee
4 Total
NI gp ts
Total
aA ailk GD
PRICE
Grp 06
-C
“i
6rp_07 - D
Sub Total:
Pensions
Sub Tot
SURIMARY TOTAL:
ea END OF REPORT
alt
I
faint nee renee
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vOLUNE VALUE
172 M5235
2 He.
7 1052.30
183 83845
183 (2477.32
453 30030.67
45 458.98
661 (7856.97
49 0.00
40 0.00
ad SHTGLAZ
mEE ap we
CO
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Se
Total
NI gp tt
30 Shar
17 138475
100.78
Sub Total:
nilk Tokens P & A
Pan Milk
Sud Total:
5930.70
ae
SUMMARY TOTAL: ae
exe END OF REPORT #
108.84
126.51 i
155.94 =f I
Total
NE gp 12
Total
RI gp 2
Sn BRE CE OEE sme = MALL YER ——-
143,00
83:50
43.65 7
43.83
tie
“Total NE gp 13 aL
222
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Total = gp
AL gp 14
PRICE VOLUME = URLUE
T 46.80
we . Total eis 1S «MOLI?
C \ iS Pko nite GD
aes RUNS UMDRICE LUNE = VALUE
f : 3 0.00
f ac- \ SS Total P&A wilk (HD) 3 0.00
ores: VOLE
Allowances
0 -C 18
Srp 0% -W
i009 u
Sub Total: Fs
Pensions
Grp i - f at
Srp 12 - I 2
ww Erp 13-8 a
Srp lt - 1 its
Sub Total: fe
ilk Tokens PE
Pia 2k 3
Sub Total: 3
SURRARY TOTAL: 162
eee OG OF REPORT :
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P and A ~ Ciient Copy
Alloeances
HE ap 05
aed OE aug
13.50 19} $55.00
17.55 3 52.65
2.85 2 51.70
: 27.90 1 27.90
36.20 1 36.20
82.00 1 2.00
Total = RE gp 05188545
AY ap 9%
PRICE VOLUME VALUE
% t 23.9%
Fn]
47042
Total HT gp 06
RE op 7
Totai
HL gp it
Seereg.
Pietetey
ZEEE
oBase
BS)
a2
225.40
Total HT gp BL
MEgp i?
Yee ' PRICE vOLUME VALUE
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Law Lo ) A toe
No m0 ts
CNP
Lal &s
4o'
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faved AT gp ih
WSR dix (nd)
PRICE WoLUNE
fotai S48 ailk in) 21
ebimn3? VOLURE VALUE
Aasaaaices
or Re 3
bea iy
278
4
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13337 24/97/2001 CAPSIS BPIOL SU: 92
and A - Client Copy
Allowances
<M ap 05
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. : io “Fees
2- “BH
ie oh
cor
i 69.84
f° 78
1 135
: 60 1 72.60
1° 73.76
“7 1? 74.80
75.65 1? 75.1
72.32 1 .
a TG
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fe
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4 er
te
13
be
it
1 Me
i.
te
22
Ie
ty
i
; 0
rae i
1
i
L
1
i.
1
1
Total agp
NL gp 13
PRICE YOLUBE VALUE
3.20 1 2.20
37-00 1241.00
Ws 1250-90
43.40 fl ae
43.58 1 Ase
Be 2 we
Bat i 50.33
vy 2 t 2
2 2
ud Be at a8 280
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AL gp 14
ES 6.7
uy 7 51.45,
284.00
£076
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I
KL gp 14
265.10
PR silk (ND)
PRITE
Total faa silk (ND)
TOTALS:
Allowances
idk Tokens 2 8 9
2A Bik
gud Total:
SuNAARY TOTAL:
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BE) 0.00
wee CHD OF REPORT Fee
3 0
VOLURE VALE
38 uses
3570.80
a he6.95
at 1008.37 <=
133 150.16
0008.00 .—
336 26423. 53
Fa 0.00
33 0.00
377 23049. 5
282
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FAD 1817043
5 25/07/2002
Pensions and
PRobucT sv/BP
Grp 08 AB/OL
Grp 05 - ¢ Bx/01
zp 03 -c anor
Gis os Bavo1
ap 05 ~ ¢ 2R/01
Srp 05 -¢ aR/OL
Gzp 05 - ¢ bayoi
Srp 05 - aL
Grp 05 - ¢ AR/OL
TOTAL Grp 0S - C
orp 0s - w
Srp 08 - #
Grp 06 -
Grp 08 - w
Srp 06 -
TOTAL Grp 06 ~ W
Srp 07 - D AA/OL
Grp 0? - D aa/o1
Grp 07D An/OL
ee orp aR/OL
Grp 07. D anol
Grp 07 - D AB/OL
Srp 07 - D BRIO:
Srp 07 - 0 ARO
Grp 07 - D BR/OL
AR/O1
AR/OL
ay
pee
fete
BR/CL
ax/Od
BR/OL
BR/DD
BRICL
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14:25 25/07/2002 CRP 18
Pensions end Allowences - Client copy
PRODUCT sU/Be vouume VALUE
Grp 14 - AB/OL 8 330.78
Grp 14 - AR/OL 4 285.51
Grp ld - AR/O1 2 1379.85
Grp li- AA/OL
TOTAL Gep 14 - T 288 25212.71
Hbpes teeter
TOTAL Pensions 2281 167579.82
AR/OL a 0.00
AR/OL 28 2.00
AR/O1 40 0.00
AR/OL
BR/OL
aa/Ox
fot POR Mi. BR/GI oo
Pea Milk AR/OL
Pea Milk RA/OL
TOTAL PEA Mek i70
tetttetdtet resets
TOTAL Milk Tokens P6A 110 9.00
3202
SUMMARY TOTAL
7% END OF REPORT *r~
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PENSION and ALLOWANCE SCHEDULE
Brookfield SPSO
181/704 i 25/07/01
I
I
week I period ~ I p&a claimed I p&u received group] amount add list print’ I indie I remarks
ended no. overclaimed I date [
A3__I V7owo1 I 20610025 [220593102 I si0923 Ts £1735 i 20 x £17.35 claimed, 19 x £17.55 received
2 £163.40 1 £163.40 claimed, nil x £163.40 received I
a £0.20 2x £73.31 claimed 2 x £73.21 received
3 £0.22 82 x £53.55 claimed, 81 x £53.55 and I 8 £53.33
received
13 £59.42 1 x £59.42 claimed, nil x £59.42 reccived
3 “EN 36 nil < £71.56 claimed, 1 x £71.56 received
Aa I 2a/orvor_ I £209282.72 I #209250.17 I #32853 £13.00 Al x £15.00 claimed, 40 x £15.00 received
3 217.55 7x £17.35 claimed, 6 x £17.35 received
45_I 3vvo1or I €208320.09 I £204337.06 I £983.03 17 £206.40 11 x £206.40 claimed, 10 x £206.40 received
ol £81.70 12 x £81.70 claimed, 11 x £81.70 received
7 £66.50 I x £66.50 claimed, nil x £66.50 received
WW £126.25 {x £126.25 claimed, nil x £126.25 received
13 £25.00 I x £25.00 claimed, nil x £25.00 received
3 £109.62 1 x £109.62 claimed, nil x £109.62 received
7 £226.30 group total overcast by £226.30
3 -£25.00 4 x £25.00 claimed, 5 x £25.00 received
5 £10.00 {x £10.00 claimed, nil x £10.00 received I
5 £25.00 7 x £25.00 claimed, 6 x £25.00 received
u £51.15 1 x £51.15 claimed, nil x £51.15 received
a £89.95 I x £89.95 claimed, nil x £89.95 received
3 £75.10 EX £75.10 claimed, nil x £75.10 received
3 ~£83.94 nil x £83.94 claimed, I x £83.94 received
3 =£1.00 7s £126.25 claimed, 2 x £126.25
$82
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982
Brookfield SPSO
PENSION and ALLOWANCE SCHEDULE
181/704 25/07/01
week I period “I p&u claimed ] p&a received group I amount ‘add list print remarks
ended no. averclaimed I date
46 __I 07/02/01 I £214267.34 I 213804.67 E040 1 x £40.40 claimed, nil x £40.40 received
0 £0.50 I x £121.77 claimed, £121.37 received
13 £33.55 listing group total of £952.35 e/fwd to revere af
main docket as £1005.90
3 £81.70 3 x £81.70 claimed, 2x £81.90 received
id £163.40 [2x £163.40 claimed, Tx £163 40 received
B -£2.30 21 x £53.35 claimed, 20 x £33.55 and 1 x ESSE
received
W £58.22 £58.22 claimed, nil x £58.22 received
iI £22.85 ng xtoup total of £3569.62 e/iwd to reverse oF
main docket as £3592,47
3 £29.35 listing group total of £498.84 efivd to reverse al
inain docket as £5028.19
3 £15.00 42 x £15.00 claimed, 41 x £15.00 recelved
“I ner I ese Taino lez Ts £154.46 3.8 £77.23 claimed, I x £77.35 received
7 £130.65 listing total of £2305.35 c/wd to reverse of win
docket as £2436,20
ie £135.00 listing group total of £1264.03 efiwd lo reverse of
main docket as £1399.03
7 £293.80 2 x £292.80 claimed, I x £295.80 received
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PENSION and ALLOWANCE SCHEDULE
Brookfield SPSO
181/704 25/07/01
week I period I p&a claimed I p&a received I variation I group] umount add list print] indie I remarks
ended no. overelaimed_I date
1 [oerooror I £21303632__ I €212325.23_I £751.09 Ii £23.64 Ux £23.64 claimed, nil x £23.64 received
n £46.55 all errors 1x £46.35 claimed, nil x £46.55 received
i £99.10 were in bundle 1x £99.10 claimed, nil x £99.10 received
Tt “£92.61 Mon 04706/01_[ 14:04 I reversal of £52.61
tT ~£113.84 reversal of £113.84
12 E8440 1 £84.40 claimed, nil x £8440 received
12 £139.50 1 x £139.50 claimed, nil x £139.50 received
13 £55.30 88 x £55.30 claimed, 87 x £55.30 claimed
G £68.51 Tx £68.51 claimed, nil x £68.51 received
Ou Main Wed 06/06/01 I 13:45
Summary
P2311MA
3 £103.40 Mon 04/06/01 I 17:55 I Received Sub Total of adlist 83 foils at £709.60
claimed on Main Summary as 84 foils at £28 13.00
7 £148.00 Wed 06/06/01 I 13:15 I Received Sub total of adlist 134 foils at £24777.26-
claimed on main summuary as 135 foils at
£24925.26
i £55.30 Fues 05/06/01 [17:34 I Received Sub total of adlist 37 foils a £3979.89,
claimed on main summary as 58 foils at £4026.19
13 £113.84 Tues 05/06/01 I 17:34 {1 foil £113.84 claimed in P2311 summary, no
adlists
12 [ismeut Ie2r600601 I E2(6928.51 I £67.50 ‘On Mini Wed 13706701 I 13:34
Summary
P2311MA
m1 167.50 Tue (2706/01 [17:30 I Received Sub wial of adlist 49 Tolls at 13270.78,
claimed on Main Summary as SOfoils at £3338.28
13 I 207ooro1 [e71285825 I e21271495_I £14330 [13 £27.50 Mon 18.06.01 I 14:01 [1 x £27.90 claimed, nil x £27.90 received I
-vel-
88¢
Brookfield SPSO
PENSION and ALLOWAN
\CHEDULE
181/704 25/07/01
week I period I "p&a claimed I p&a received group I amount add list print” [indie [remarks
ended no. overctaimed I date
eft) 20/06/01 On Main Wed 20/06/01 I 13:41 - 7
13 Summary
P2341
7 £115.40 Fri 13/06/01 I 16:43 I Received Sub total of Adiist 5 Tolle at £1325.90,
Claimed on Main Summary as 11 fvils at £144.30
‘4 I 27/1 I ¥216439.32 I Ea162B4.72 I E1460 Wed 2706/01 { aH:17
7 £154.60 Wed 27/06/01 I ip:08 I Reccived Sub Total of Adlist 134 Tolls al
£24111.58, claimed on Main Summary as 135 toils
at £24377.18
15 I o4o7ar_I 217075, £216813.50 [£361.76 13 £25.85 Tues 03/07/01 [17:58 JS x £35.85 claimed, @ x £95.83 recuived
On Main Wed 0470701 [13:43
Summary
W 8171 Tues 03/07/01 I 17:58" I Received Sub Total of Adlst 52 Tos al
££3474.44, claimed on Main Summary as $3 foils
at £3556.15
14 £154.20 Wed 04/07/01 [13:36 I Received Sub Total of Adiist 60 foils a £5970.55
_ claimed on Main Summary as 61 foils at £6124.75
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181/708
12/09/01
[ Week Date Balance results I P&A claimed I P&A Variation
Received overclaim
41 03/01/01 £183374.50 I £182635.87 £738.63
42 10/01/01 £214513.56 £214074.74 £438.82
43 17/01/01 £71.08 short I £206100.25 £205931.02 £169.23
44 24/01/01 £98.50 short I £209282.72 I £209250.17 £32.55
45 31/01/01 £123.71 short I £205320.09 £204337.06 £983.03
46 07/02/01 £77.89 short I £214267.34 £213804.67 £462.67
a7 14/02/01 £214.23 over I £208420.01 _I £207707.10 £712.91
48 21/02/01 £208560.97 _I £207741.26 $19.26
49 28/02/01 £195890.61 _I £195633.03 £257.58
ll 06/06/01 £13.79 over I £213056.32 I £212325.23 731.09
12 13/06/01 £42.34 over I £216996.01 £216928.51 £67.50
13 20/06/01 £1.20 over I £212858.25 £212714.95 £143.53
14 27/06/01 £32.84 short I £216439.32 I £216284.72 [£154.60
15 04/07/01 £70.43 short I £217075.32 I £216813.50 £261.76
16 11/07/01 £250421.16 £249960,.26 £460.90
V7 18/07/01 £169303.14 £168733.14 £570.00
1s 25/07/01 £13.32 short I £215034.69
289
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181/704
25/07/01
Week Date Balance results [ P&A claimed I P&A Variation
Received overclaim
43 17/01/01 £71.08 short I £206100.25 I £205931.02 £169.23
44 24/01/01 £98.50 short I £209282.72 £209250.17 £32.55
45 31/01/01 £123.71 short I £205320.09 £204337.06 £983.03
46 07/02/01 £77.89 short I £214267.34 £213804.67 £462.67
47 14/02/01 £214.23 over I £208420.01 £207707.10 £712.91
1 06/06/01 £13.79 over I £213056.32 £212325.23 £731.09
12 13/06/01 £42.34 over I £216996.01 £216928.51 £67.50
13 20/06/01 £1.20 over I £212858.25 £212714.95 £143.3
14 27/06/01 £32.84 short I £216439,32 £216284.72 £154.60
5 04/07/01 £70.43 short I £217075.32 £216813.50 £261.76
290
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181/704
25/0701
[ Week Date Balance results [ P&A claimed I PRA I
Received
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Record of Tape Recorded Interview
Person interviewed Alan McLaughlin Exhibit No:
Place of Interview Brookfield Post Office in Tanning Street
officer producing exhibit
Date of fnterview 26" July 2001
Time commenced 13.04 hours Time concluded 13.46 hours
Duration of interview — 42 minutes ‘Tape reference no 047807
Interviewing Officer(s) Suzanne Winter Frederick Lestie Thorpe
. Other persons present Margaret McLaughlin
Tape Person Text :
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0.00 PT The time is thirteen zero four.
sw This interview is being tape recorded. My name is Suzanne Winter, My
colleague i:
FT Frederick Leslie Thorpe.
sw .. We are officers of Consignia, employed to investigate possible
criminal offences. Also present is, can you just state your name Mr
McLaughlin.
AM Alan McLaughlin.
sw And also present is
MM Margaret McLaughtiin.
sw ....The date is the 26" of July and the time is.....
FT Thirteen, thirteen zero four,
sw ... This interview is being conducted in the Brookfield Post Office in
Tanning Street. I'll like to ask you some questions about accounting
irregularities within the office. At the end of interview. I will give you a
notice explaining what will happen to the tapes. Have you any
objection to the interview being tape recorded?
1.16 AM No.
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117 sw Will you please state your full name your date of birth and your home
address
AM
sw “Me MeLaughlin you do not have to say anything but J must caution you.
_ I that if you do not mention when questioned something which you later
rely on in court, it may harm your defence. If you do say anything, it
maybe given in evidence. Do you understand that?
AM Yep.
sw You understand that?
AM Yes I understand, yeah.
sw Um now going to show Mr McLaughlin form CS001 Side A explaining
his legal rights. (Inaudible), what I'll do is, 1°UI just read this over with
you Mr McLaughlin first of all and the time is...
PT Is 13.05.
sw And the date is the 26" of May two thousand and one.
MM 26" of July.
sw Oh sorry, 26" of July.
rT (Unaudible).
mm Thank you.
2.33 sw You are not under arrest. You do not have to remain at this interview.
If you do remain, you have the right to legal representation and advice
including the right to speak with a solicilor either in person or on the
telephone. The solicitor will give you advice regarding legal aid. You
d to read the Police and Cri a} @¢ Northern Ireland
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Order 1989 Codes of Practice if you wish. And I have, the, the book
there.
3.23 AM (naudible). .
sw So what you need to do now Mr McLaughlin is just, have you read one
to four above and then in you hand, own handwriting. just complete
that. _
AM Okay.
sw SO Mr McLauglin is completing the form CS001 has indicate. yes, he
has read one to four above and has indicated, yes, do you understand
one to four above. And do you want to speak to a solicitor either in
person or on the telephone?
AM No.
sw No.
AM Just sign and date?
sw Yep. Do you want to speak to a solicitor, then reply. sign, just putin
your signature and time again and the date.
ET Time is 13.07.
AM Okay.
sw Okay?
AM Fine.
4.40 SW Mr McLaughlin has now read and signed Side A of form CS001
explaining his tegal rights. Just (inaudible). During this interview you
can have a friend present if you wish. Any friend you nominate must be
at feast 18 years age and not involeved in the emquiry. Your frind must
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an offical of the recognised Union for your grade. This right is an
additional to your right to speak to a solicitor. Do you understand?
3.12 AM Yes.
sw
involved in the enquiry, { have agreed that, that will be okay. So do you
require a friend?
AM Yeah.
sw Your having:
AM That's right.
sw 1am now showing form CS001 Side B, employees right to a friend at an
interview to Mr McLaughlin. So, just to....um....let yourt6Roknow
and the friend's right at an interview, any friend invited to attend a
Consignia interview or search must be at least eighteen years of age and
not already involved in the enquiry. As I mentioned before. they have
to be Consignia employee but under these circunstances....
AM Yeah.
sw ...L have agreed. Also as a friend, you can take notes if you wish. And
the notes have to remain in confidence but you cannot take part in the
interview. Okay? So do you require a friend?
AM Yes.
SW/AM Yes.
AM And the time...
PT The time is now 13.09.
6.46 sw .. So if you require nad, you should write d
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McLaughlin is writing the name of GRO I Mrs M McLaughlin.
The right to your friend is additional to your right to seek legal advice
and if you could just sign that, please. And time again...
7.00 PT Ts 13.09 (inaudible).
sw Mr McLaughlin has completed...um.....the form and now the friend
— you have been called by Mr McLaughlin to act as a friend during this
interview,
MM Right.
sw Your role as a friend, is to witness what happens during the interview
but you may not take part in the interview proceedings. During the
interview you may take notes which must be treated in strictures
confidence. [f the interviewee so requests at a later stage, you may let
him have a copy of these notes for use in any subsequent official appeal
about the procedures followed during the interview. If the person being
interviewed so wishes. your statement maybe communicated to his
Union in strictures contidence. No other communication about the
interview is allowed without the permission of Consignia. So what I
would ask you now to do Mrs McLaughlin is, I have read and
understood the above and am willing to act asa fiend, (Inaudible). So if
you just sign Mrs McLaughlin at this time form CS001 Side B
MM (Inaudible),
sw Yes please. And the time again. ..
Fv Is 13.11.
8.53 sw -Okay. Thank you. And if you just...e . Form CSO0L
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legal forms, the solicitor, the friend, so now,..um...1’d like to ask you
some questions. How long have you been, first of all, are you the sub
Postmaster of Brooktield.....
9.50 AM Tam yes.
sw ..-Post Office? And how long have you been (inaudible) Postmaster?
AM Er... just slightly over two years.
sw Just slightly over two years. And what's your responsibilities then, as
the sub Postmaster?
AM The general running of Brookfield Post Office. And...er...delivery of
the services as per (inaudible) transfer.
sw Do you have any other business?
AM Just the convenience store...er...at the front.
sw That's the store it’s attached to the Post Office?
AM That’s right, yep.
Sw So, what staff do have then in the Post Office (inaudible)?
AM Um....currently there are four (inaudible) staff.
sw Four (inaudible) statf.
AM Count five.
sw (Inaudible).
AM Five.
sw And who would that be then?
AM Um...the names?
sw Mmmm. please.
AM Mary Woods.
10.55 sw Mary Woods.
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10.56 AM Lorraine Archer.
sw Lorraine Archer.
AM Carol (inaudible).
sw Um KERR.
AM KE double R, yep. Ruth (inaudible),
Sw Miss (inaudible). _ .
AM And Karen McLaughlin.
sw Now they're part time so.....um....what would their hours be then?
AM Um....Mary first of all, 24 hours
Sw And maybe when you say 24 hours. what, what time does that siart at,
like so many in a day, or...?
AM Eight hours per day.....er...
sw And what time does she start?
AM «Nine, finish at six. For an hour for break.
sw Okay then. And that's...um...is that Monday, Tuesday?
AM Monday, Tuesday. Thursday.
12.10 Sw Monday, Tuesday. Thursday, okay. Then we have (inaudible).
AM (Inaudible)...um....16 hours.
sw And what hours would they be?
AM Um...Monday, nine to two thirty,
sw Monday, nine to two thirty.
AM Wednesday. nine to two.
SW Wednesday, nine to two.
12.34 AM And Thurs, Thursday. nine to two thirty.
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AM Um..,.Carol, twenty hours. Monday, nine to six.
sw Monday, nine to six.
AM ‘Tuesday, nine to five.
sw Tuesday, nine to five.
AM And Wednesday, nine to two.
swt And Wednesday, nine to two. And Ruth?
AM Ruth...um....hang on. I can give you the hours she works first of all.
sw That's alright.
AM (Inaudible) forget because...
sw (Inaudible)
AM . her shift’s change each week. ..um....
sw (Inaudible).
AM Yeah, her's change each week...um.....she’s employed in the shop.
So...
sw (Inaudible).
AM ...yes. the convenience store. Um....Monday, nine to four.
sw Monday, nine to four.
AM Tuesday, nine to four.
sw Tuesday, nine to four.
AM Thursday, nine to four.
sw Thursday, ine to four.
AM Friday, nine to one.
sw Friday, nine to one.
i411 AM Saturday. nine to one.
i4.i2 sw Saturday, nine to one. And then, Karen McLaughlin?
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AM Right...um....again mainly, mainly shop. Wednesday. ..um....ten to
one.
sw Wednesday, ten to one.
AM Thursday, two to four.
sw Thursday, two to four.
AM Friday. two to four. .
sw Friday. two to four. Is Karen a relation?
AM Yep.
sw (Inaudible).
sw Was that Karen that we met this morning?
AM (Inaudible). Yep.
sw Is that Karen (inaudible)?
AM Yes that’s it.
Sw Fine. Right, how long, so that's, one, two, three, how Jong have the staff
all been with you? They all.....
AM Um....(inaudible) Karen’s already here.
sw On every payment...
AM Yes.
sw (inaudible).
AM (Inaudible).
sw Mary Woods?
AM Since, start of March this year.
15,32 sw Start of March and Lorraine Archer?
15.33 AM Um....Lorvaine has only been doing the sixteen hours since this v
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Before that she was on four, four hours.
sw She was on four hours. Just ignore it. Um....so this week she started
sixteen hours and when was she was on the four hours before that, what
was working out those fours hours at?
AM Um...that was Wednesday, nine to one.
-—_____}I_._ SW Wednesday, nine to one. And that was (inaudible) Monday of this
week?
AM She started her sixteen hours this week, that’s cight, yep.
sw So Monday. she started the extra hours. Carol Kerr? Was it two years?
AM (Inaudible).
sw Um.....so it was Lorraine Archer?
AM (Inaudible).
SW (Inaudible). Right.
AM Sorry.
sw (Inaudible). Um...so that was, ..er ... Mary Woods, start of March?
AM Yep.
sw Lorraine Archer, (inaudible)...
AM Sixteen hours from this Monday.
SW da and then before that. how long she been working with you?
AM She would have been...ahhh.....I have to look it up because, she was
part time then she stopped, she went back to four and she’s back on the
(inaudible:
sw Mr McLaughlin is looking in his record book of his staff attendance.
18.03 AM She stopped. working her sixteen hours is what she was doing before...
sw Uhuh.
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AM ..-in June last year. June two thousand...um...she re-started working
here, it was just morning a week, J think, on the 16" of February. 16" of
the 2". sorry, the week, the Monday beginning that’s,a
Thursday...um....(inaudible)...13"",
sw Pardon.
AM Monday the 13" of February.
sw Monday the 13" of February she changed from being sixteen hours...
AM No, no. She stopped working completely.
sw -or she stopped...
AM ..-in June two thousand, yep,
sw ..Oh, she stopped working.
AM Roughly around that time.
sw Right.
AM That's not right, ‘cos she was working in the school before the school
term had finished. It'll be several months before that. she stopped
working, sixteen hours. And then she wasn’t working at all and then
came back in February. So, ('m...
sw So this was...
AM foe maybe ['ll haven't checked last years...
sw ..-No that's okay.
AM thing.
sw Lorraine, she stopped working.
19.13 AM She stopped......
19.14 sw She had been working in the Post Office?
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SW And it was earlier then June?
AM It was earlier because she was working in the school across the road
‘ there. so.
sw So that’s, near, nearly a year ago.
AM Yep. It would have been that.
SW And then she came, did she cover... . _
AM Then she did one morning a week.
sw ...Do you know when she started doing that one morning week?
AM. I think...
sw You mentioned February?
AM ..L think from the 6", well, that week beginning the. the start of
February. Though, I've already used her for substituent and cover work.
sw Before this?
AM Before the...
SW/AM (inaudible).
AM syeah. And after.
SW So from the start of February, she came back, she was doing one
morning of which, the Monday. You had been using her for a subsituent
before that and you use her for subsituent afterwards.
AM Yep. Yep. She came in for, when [ was short staffed,
holiday...um....ete. yep. So she would have been in quite often.
20.31 sw Right. So then we have Ruth who you're saying mainly works in the
shop.
20.36 AM Yep.
Sw And those ave the hours that she works, we've got the hours there that
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she works in the Post Office, but when, how long has she been in Post
Office?
AM Un. ...in on last year’s book...um....[ think she was a year in the
Post Office this May, so, [ think, believe she would have started
May two thousand.
SW_____I___ She must have started in May two thousand. Then again, without seeing
last years...
AM Uhuh.
sw . actual dates.
AM I mean, that's (inaudible)
sw .-1, [couldn’t be absolutely certain.
AM And then we're left with Karen, your Sister in Law.
sw Yep.
AM And she works mainly in the shop, again.
sw Mainly in the shop.
AM When did she start in the Post Office then?
Sw Um.....again, without last year’s records, obviously...
AM Was she works in the Post Office whenever you taok over yourself?
sw No. Much much later. Now [ve only got this year’s figures. I, without
actually seeing last’s years...um...records, all I've got here in this
particular record is from the 9", Friday the 9" of February, but ('m
pretty sure she was here before then.
22.30 AM (Inaudible).
2231 sw Uve only kept the, the last few weeks, for the last accounting year
(inaudible)...
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AM (Inaudible) February?
sw but, I'm pretty sure she was here before then.
AM Okay then. So we've got all of your staff, what training, what training
did your staff receive?
sw Um...Mary, Carol and Lorraine are all Horizon trained with
the.,..er...um...training course, on_the training course.
AM So Mary, Karen, Lorraine are all Horizon trained?
sw It’s with the...um...the (inaudible) programme of courses, yep.
AM And then...
sw Ruth and Karen were, would have been Horizon trained in the office.
AM ....Who was this by then?
sw Myself.
AM Ruth and Karen were trained in the office by yourself. So, had them,
had any of your staff had any previous Post Office experience before
they came to work for you?
sw Um....Carol obviously, she, she was already here...um.....Ruth and
Mary. (inaudible), sorry, Lorraine Archer and Mary Woods came from
Woodville Pot Office at different times
AM Sorry that was Mary and...Lorraine?
sw Lorraine, yep.
AM And they'd originally worked in Woodville?
24.08 sw Woodville Post Office.
24.17 AM Right. Now. what, what duties does each of them, perform at the, at the
counter where they were working?
sw Counter Assistant duties.
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AM Anything else did they do other than, whenever you say Counter
Assistant...
sw Unm...from the range of, of...um...Horizon, what they did the other
days....um....(inaudible) work stations. .um.,..only the ones that were
linked to the shop would have been (inaudible) shop duties.
AM Okay.
sw Um.....nothing beyond standard contract for Counter Assistants,
AM Serving the, the customers?
sw Customers, yeah.
AM And, your looking at your annual leave book, is that, do you keep it
there, record it off...um...annual leave, attendance’s...
sw Yep. Absences, lateness.
AM ..-um...where do keep the, the records?
sw The, the...
AM You mentioned...
sw «J use the formal, they, they'll be at home.
AM There at home?
sw Yep. Sorry.
AM So you do keep a record of them?
sw Yep.
AM And....with the office keys, as well, just, who, who keeps those?
25.08 Sw They only have the front door key. any, Counter Assistants only have
front door key. No inner door keys.
25.16 sw So they.....
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Sw s+ athey all have a...
AM (Inaudible).
SWF ws the front door key. 1
AM Um....apart from Lorraine ‘cos she’s only obviously started back on
the...tum...sixteen hour contract.
sw Uhuh. _
AM Um...no, Mary, Ruth and Carol have front door keys.
sw Mary, Ruth and Carol?
AM Yep
sw What about safe keys?
AM No.
sw How many sets of safe keys?
AM Two.
sw And where are they kept?
AM One's with me at present and the other's kept at home,
sw Okay. And then, what’s your procedure then for your date stamps and
how many date stamps do you have?
AM Three by no change date stamps and one....um....other (inaudible),
another (inaudible). the, the..
FT Sovereign King
26.08 AM/SW Sovereign King.
25.57 AM (Inaudible) what's it.
MM Kings Head
sw And as earlier, indictors in the date stamps.
AM Yes. Fhere’s an ID indicior in each one.
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sw And what ID would be on the date stamps and do they belong to
anyone.
. AM Yeah, they all use the same ones. (Inaudible),
sw Who has what indictor?
AM Um. ..right...er.. the three indictors are star, 96 and 08.
= sw buh, And who's gotthe star?
AM Abh....star is the end position, it’s Mary.
sw Okay. And the ninety six?
AM Is position number two, that’s Lorraine when she’s on there.
sw And number eight.
AM That'll be Carol’s, position three. Although if all the samples aren’t
being used. they Carol wouldn't change here’s but the other two might.
us a different one but they would stick to the same one for a particular
day they wee on. In other words, if they*re only two stamps out on that,
that day on a less busy day...
sw Uhuh.
AM ..-um....they, the, I think they try and stick to the, to the main, the same
one but...
Sw If they don’t stick to the same one. is there any record kept. kept if they
haven't? If they’ve changed date stamps or....
27.12 AM No.
Sw .. changes indictors.
AM No formal record.
sw But nothing written...
AM No.
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sw .., just (inaudible). Um...you said that there was the four date stamps so
that’s the, the style, is there anything in the order, automatic (inaudible)
to indicate? ‘
AM Tonly use it.
sw And is there anything in that (inaudible)? (Inaudible).
-AM___I___ The face plate roller is completely different from the other three. So it's
clearly (inaudible).
sw And where are the date stamps kept?
AM Jn safe number 3, that one.
sw How many safes do you have?
AM Three, two, one. So three safes.
sw And the safe with the dates stamps were kept, is that kept locked
AM That, safe number three with the (inaudible), isn’t kept locked during
the day. There’s only. bags of coin in that, there’s nothing else in it. And
(inaudible) records, it’s not locked.
SW Right, So...
AM Safe two and one are locked.
sw {f you could just.....um...talk me through them, first of all, (inaudible)
come in, in the morning, who opens up the actually office.
28.02 AM Myself. [ do it.
28.06 sw And your the first one here?
AM Yes.
sw So. you would then open up the office about, what time of the day
would that be?
AM Between haif past and a quarter to nine.
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sw And, whenever you say, open up the office, what do you actually do?
AM I, front door, inner doors along, then [ do the same sequence for the
safes. Um...if it’s after half past eight, I (inaudible) safe number one, ,
put the key in...um...signing up. [ open safe three first because the key
for safe one, opens safe three as well
sw Yeah, ~
AM So safe three must be opened before safe one. Um....take out the
stampers, stamped fist, then safe two, which is money, (inaudible),
stamp books, coin, coins and notes.
sw Okay.
AM Um....then (iling cabinet for (inaudible) benefit books, then things
like...um...National Lottery and anything that must be brought, picked
out to the counter. All the pens. ..er.....all the pens are in position, all
the general workstation items are in position.
Sw Okay. And what kind of time does the staff arrive?
AM Um...
sw T know they've said nine o'clock, but do they arrive earlier?
29.03 AM ..um....Ruth would usually arrive earliest and the others would be in
between five to and nine.
29.14 sw So you've opened the office and what way do they stocks work as
individual stocks or..?
AM Shared stock init. Sa the (inaudible)...er...proportionally. (Inaudible).
sw So they coni&in and they, do you allocate them?
AM (Inaudible) have the moncy already in position.
sw For them, when they (inaudible).
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AM Yep.
sw Then they open up and serve. Do you close for lunch?
AM ‘No.
sw Right. So then at, the end of the day, what happens then at the end of
the day? (Inaudible). All your vouchers...
~ AM Well, daily reports obviously are, are. checked and sent before a quarter —
to five to five.
sw Who does the daily reports?
AM Um....we do an initial check, usually myself. Then they’re printed and
some of those are secondary checked. What, now, ]'m talking about
Giro Bank, and National Savings...
sw Uhuh.
29.14 AM ..-and T.....um...BBC TV. Um...once you've dealed with the reports
(inaudible), then the money, can start to be counted....um...usually in
the same sequence. Big money first ‘cos it’s not coming out of the front
safe again. Um...enough money is left on the counter positions, ree} the
notes, they're in safe two, then the coins, bags of coin, once the bags of
coin are in, that's. if your still using your working money in the drawers
and there’s.....
29.29 sw Mmmm.
AM .....hopper or two hopper, however number, position is still open.
Um...then pension allowance books are put away. Um....then usually
leaves you ai about twenty past five or so. so the Jast ten minutes, any
other customers deal with that...wm....waiting to do a final reports.
Soon as the door closes at half past five, then we do...um...Green Giros
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and then pension allowances.
sw Once the door closes at half past five?
AM Yep. And National Savings (inaudible). ‘
sw Um...so, what does everyone else, what does everyone do with their
pensions, say if they'd all been serving pension?
AM Well, there2s-avo-runs.for pensions during the day. Lunch time and
again after half past five.
sw Now...
AM So we have to do two runs for that.
sw ...Could you just explain to me, whenever you say, run-off’s, what,
what do mean when you say run-off's?
AM ‘That means that, because we can’t, because we don’t close at lunch
time...um.....that’s the only times during the day where we're going to
get a chance to check the mornings pension allowance (inaudible).
Um...now being (inaudible). we can’t simply continue operating on one
or two, three counter positions while the, the. the non working position
does it’s check.
sw Ubuh,
30.29 AM Everything has to be done altogether. All the pensions and allowances
have to be done all to the hour. Uin...so the lunch time, the procedure
usually is that, I'm always here at lunch time and whoever the member
of staff or Counter Assistant is on with me, we will print, well, we'll
take a decision that no more pensions or allowances (inaudible) are
allowed to be entered onto the system. So, the (inaudible) of claim from
the, from the desktops, from all, all the pasitions as well as one position
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two or four positions, however number are on for the (inaudible), the
(inaudible) are cleared and from that point on, no more (inaudible) are
supposed to be entered onto the system, so the person keeps a clip
beside them and if any (inaudible) taken after that point, they simply do
them on the calculator.
Uhuh. _
And, keep them also but, the other person, the other person then, checks
off the pensions and allowances against the print out. Whenever
they"ve finished that, they swap round. That person goes onto the
counter and the person who was on the counter double checks. Then
anything that has to be taken out or added in, it’s done at that point.
Then, it's printed again and cut off so that normally takes you up to the
end of lunch time. Meanwhile, the counter positionist still operating or
course.
Uhuh.
Um.I....then in the afternoons session. it’s, it’s, have to start from seratch
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again. A
So that's added in so, what happens then, at lunch time, you have one
person and they gather all the foils?
Yes. Well they gather it periodically during the day...
Right.
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Sw Okay.
AM «+. .the kitchen, bring (inaudible) and they would deal with the foils
there. ‘
sw So they bring the, the foils out and then what do they do on the, do they,
run off a, a print or, or, or what do they to check that?
—AM—I—-They...
sw They go into...
AM ...that’s just...
sw .-.Gnaudible)...
AM ..-that’s just physically grouping the foils together...
sw - +. Okay.
AM ;--in numerical order and according to pension group or alliance group.
sw Right.
AM That's just physically gathering the things together.
sw That's just gather, and this is at lunch time?
AM Whenever they (inaudible), and brought back out front and row
left...um...ia the rear. um....counter, in the front.
sw Ubuh.
AM And gradually added to
31.58 sw So they’re brought out to and then.....
31.59 AM During the course of the whole morning, yep.
sw ..-And then you say, al the end of the morning then, when do you
actually do up...uim....a pension bundle or...?
AM They're done in their bundles.
sw Uhuh.
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AM But obviously they’re not checked against the print out. Um...they’re
still in their bundles waiting uatil luach time, we can only do they at
lunch time. ;
sw Yeah. So then at lunch time, you're saying that you, you do a print out?
AM Once we taken the decision that, no more pensions...
sw Yep. ee
AM ...atlowances in, made sure everything's clear, there’s four
different...um...foils holders, they all have to be cleared.
sw Uhuh.
AM And then, well, then, there’s a print out, and from that point on there is
no more pensions, allowances put in.
sw And they would bit. they would go into the Horizon system and...
AM Just do normal...
sw ..-Do you...
AM (Inaudible), print out, yeah.
sw And they would check off...
AM Each group.
sw ..each group from that print out.
AM Yep.
sw And if everything's okay, what do they do then?
AM If everything's okay. and nothing has been taken in or taken
hen you just cut it off. There's no changes need to be made.
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sw So that’s just cut off and then, that’s. that’s it. Now, so, if their are
changes to be made. what actually happens?
AM You take anything out, puts it’s in correctly and any foils that aren't
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actually physically out on the system, put in.
sw And out put them...
AM + (Inaudible) we started doing was, instead of putting anything in at all,
we kept those with the foiis from the lunch time session on the clip. So
in other words, we took this decision some time ago because of the
— confusion there was over it, the totals. Um.....the foils were only taken I...
out and corrected that way, nothing was put in, so we decided that this
was the procedure we'll use from that point on. So in other words, if
there’s foils that physically aren't there at all in the system...
sw Mmmm.
AM ..are in, in correctly. Or if it’s a few pence, it’s still taken out and it’s
not physically put back in till that run. It’s kept for the next afternoon's
run,
Sw Yes, okay.
AM So, things are only taken out. So it’s a removals.
sw Right, so, if you came across a pension and there was a foil. I say,
fifty pounds and it was indicated on your print out that you should have
it,
but you don’t have the foil.
Take it out of the run. [FI find I have a foil for fifty pounds, and it's
not...
33.06 sw And it’s not on the print out.
33.07 AM ....on my print out.
sw You keep that.
AM [keep that siddand if we don’t put it in, there and then.
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sw Right.
AM Um....’cos what happened the system before that was that, now this was
when the...um....the ex-owner was still coming in and, and, we actually
changed it, once he was in doing substitute work...
sw Uhuh.
AM -sit-was-awdul,and-we, we changed it at that point, was that, and what
we have haven't from the installation of Horizon right up to this point
and I kept my low when it was exactly like cheque out for when he was
in, and J would know then, that’s when the decision was taken.
Um....what we used to do, was, 1 think, for us, we're physically
removed, they were (inaudible) taken out, they were out in at he same
time and he would change, well we changed the totals...
Sw Uhuh.
AM ..-S0 none of them were comparing two physical totals, we're
comparing the original print outs, final (inaudible) allowances with the
new print outs additional foils put in and foils taken out.
sw Uhuh.
AM T tried to reconcile them with however number was, whether it was three
or a bad day’. like, like we'd have (inaudible) some points that was
doubled figures. you know, cleven, twelve.
33.23 sw Right.
33.24 AM Sa, what we finding was that especially on the Monday, on a busy day
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sw Uhuh.
AM ----Still trying to write and sell (inaudible) and corrected so we've had to
‘ admit that this, this isn’t working, you know, and little sums scribbled at
the bottom of print outs, trying to reconcile figures which someone had
added on in their calculator and it was an absolute nightmare.
(Inaudible), we were running over two o’clock and once you're running
over the two o'clock line, the potential for mistakes is multiplied instead
of just one. Potential for mistakes, there’s now like three, ‘cos there’s
three people on the counter and one trying to reconcile two different
figures, (inaudible).
Sw So, whenever you do the, the, the bundle then of the pension and
allowances and it’s correct...
AM Yep.
sw -.-and the print (inaudible)...
AM (Inaudible) it’s correct.
sw and if it’s correct, what do you do next? Do you, where do.....
AM If it’s not printed again.....
sw (Inaudible).
AM «it’s not necessarily printed again, it’s not...
SW/AM (Inaudible).
34.40 AM (Inaudible) printed again, it’s just cut off and folded and pensions and
allowances.
34.42 Sw And where do you put your (inaudible)?
AM They...um....they used to be left on the rear counter to be added into
the daily shift, so when we still had a daily shifi, we, I would physically
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(inaudible) there.
sw Right.
AM AS soon as that was done, it would be left off in, there’s a tray in safe
number three, where they're all kept a weekly things,
sw So you say, do you not keep daily sheets there, again you said....
AM . They won't, they won't send anymore, the. the. the stock, the. the, they
- “just don’t, we've ordered them but they apparently they not being you,
sent out to offices anymore.
sw -.-And...er....the pensions then are kept in the, the safe unti
AM They're kept altogether until Wednesday.
sw So that’s if there hasn't been any changes or...
AM Yep
sw «If you come along and you do the pension and you've checked the
print out and there is a mistake...
AM Right.
sw .-- What happens?
AM Well there's a different procedure for a removal and an addition.
sw Okay, so, if you give me the procedure for a removal.
36.58 AM Right. Um....if there's an extra foil, in another words it's, the system is
telling you there are fifteen foils to this value and you only have
fourteen, one line is put straight across both entries...
37.00 sw Mmmm.
AM «+ if there’s two columns, two entries, so, so (inaudible) both lines
(inaudible) and one (inaudible) is written.
sw Ubuh.
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AM If it’s two out, two out, etc. Umn....if there's a value for a foil in there
and no foil of that value exists, same procedure, a line is put straight
through both entries and one out is writien beside it. Um....if it’s, ,
there’s a foil there but, the amount that’s entered in the system is
various amount up or down, again, a line straight through, one out.
Those are the three types of removals. And those, and ifs those foils are
physically there, they aren’t physically taken I out, it’s kept on and
clipped with the bunch of tag entries.
sw And then are they added into the...
AM/SW (inaudible).
sw ... Well. no, they used to be added into the same run, in other words,
your morning run...
AM Uhuh.
sw ...but ‘cos of the problems this was causing...
AM Uhuh.
sw .-..with, with just build up of, of of the weight of foils in the till and the
problems with reconciling two sets of figures...
AM Uhuh.
37.34 sw ... your morning print out and your corrected print to reconcile two sets
of figures and trying to do it while the office is still.....
37.35 AM Uhuh.
sw ...not able to take things on Horizon...um...that’s obviously changed.
AM (Inaudible).
sw So..
AM How long ago did you s
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sw It'll be shortly after the last time the...um.. -€X-postinaster was brought
in to substitute work.
AM So he helped you out...
sw No, he used to do the same way when all the (inaudible), he’s always
done it...
AM Okay.
sw ++and the way it was done on Horizon up to that point. —
AM And you was the ex-postmaster.
sw Er...Bob Wills,
FT We're forty one minutes into the tape. it's probably an appropriate to, to
sw Okay.
FT .--. break otherwise the tapes going to run out.
sw Um...before we stop these tapes Mr McLaughlin, we need to get you to
sign the tape seal.
AM Right.
Sw And um....the machine will be stopped and that, those tapes will be
sealed.
AM Can you just read out the number on the top right hand corner of the
tape seal, that’s that the tape recording seal.
37.51 sw 047807.
38.01 FT Can you sign it please, person underneath, person being interviewed.
sw Right okay.
AM Right.
FY Can you sign as well Mrs MeLan please, just in that big space
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sw That’s it.
MM Just... .
FT Just underneath your name, that’s fine.
sw And the time is...
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38.10 sw So all person’s present have signed the tape seal. Time is now 13.46
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Suzanne Winter Frederick Leslie Thorpe
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sw {am continuing this interview and first of all I would like to remind Mr Melavghun
that he is still under caution, you do not have to say anything but I must caution
you that if you don't mention when questioned something which you later rely on in
court, it may harm your defence if you do say anything it may be given in
evidence. And Mr Mclavghun would just like to ask you why your fapes were
swiiched off, can you confirm we did not discuss any details of the enquiry?
AM We did not
sw For voice identification purposes can I just please ask each person to reintroduce
themselves Mr Mclavghun.
AM I am Alan Mclavghun Sid Post master
FT Frederick Leslie Thorpe, Investigations Manager
MM Margaret Mclavghun
sw And Suzanne Winter. I would also ask Mr Mclavghun to sign his legal rights just to
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his legal rights. Thank you Mr. Mclavghun has signed and timed 1.52.
FT Are you still prepared to continue without legal advice or speak to a Solicitor?
AM I am still happy with that.
FT He is still happy for Mrs Mclaughan to remain as his friend.
Sw Mr Mclavghun before the tapes siopped we were discussing the pension licence
and how you (inaudible) if there was a pension remember you did it at lunch time
--I-and-itwas-one that you had to hand in or to take out and what I would fike you
then is to clarify before me is if there has been changes made on the add list what
happens to the (inaudible) put a line through so what happens to (inaudible)
AM Well it was reprinted that one is destroyed
sw its destroyed and what happens to what do you print off another one?
AM Once yeah once the other one is printed (inaudible) what you are going to have is
your final print out and that one was kept and the original the one that we have
done a double checking from is destroyed.
sw Right so you have made the adjustments on the computer system is that right/
AM Yes it is being done on the (inaudible)
Sw
So you then get a new print out and is that double checked again to make sure its
right or not so once you make the adjustments on the computer system you get a
second print out and you put that round {inaudible
AM And we take that
SW And you take that as the figures then
AM As the figures yeah
sw Then its locked in the safe and kept there until the balance night, when do you
balance?
AM Wednesday afternoon
sw So you close here half
AM 1.00
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staff do customer transactions and one person would do the Printout of the invoice
then another person would check no the same person and then then maybe you
would look after the daily stock of switch which will be the telephone account saving
client (inaudible).
AM Could be any of them, couid be (inaudible)
sw Right
AM Usually I would (inaudible) for instance during the.afternoon if there.is enough there
is a secondary lot done as well.
sw So I am thinking now that we are closing up for the evening and we've done
(inaudible) so who then would count the (inaudible) holdings.
AM One of the girls does it (inaudible) does cash
Sw Would yourself ever do it for us nearly (inaudible)
AM I will (inaudible) but the counter money, coin money and front hand out is usually
the other counter assistant does and they usually (inaudible) put onto the system.
sw Sos there any particular forms do they fill in what how did they total alf up.
AM They just have an add sheet and there is a columns and its transferred and as they
transfer onto the system sometimes I will do it.
SW Does in every one person counts the money does anyone else check that or is that
just taken as the figure?
AM We usually check the adding up we can very rarely check a minute if someone was
doing the coin bags at the front and someone says there is just some items
(inaudible) probably
sw Check that
AM No we will just take that as given.
Sw So that is all your daily dock it is then you come to the balance day.
AM Yes
SW Who prepares the documents for the balance?
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(inaudible). Once those are checked and finished and the actual documentation for
the bounce scratches will be brought out and arranged in order (inaudible)
Sw And who prepares the cat print?
AM The once the‘girls got to anything after that is myself in other words putting things
in the right patches all the daily and weekly reports are finished before then.
sw So who completes who run off the weekly reports?
}——AM These are done through (inaudible) position or I will those til! they gain (inaudible)
sw (inaudible) and that will be yourself then.
AM Yes for weekly (inaudible)
SW So they the weekly performance should also be preparing for your pensions
(inaudible)
AM The A4 pension allowance reports obviously (inaudible) position yeah
Sw So then once you (inaudible) completed whenever the girls leave have you hit a
figure then and they know whether you are balanced or
AM No, (inaudible) will be done after too easily. Usually they will still have one other
bonus for stock in it to go it and basically it depends lets say one of the books has
been usually it is accounted and checked before but it would b sitting in it where it's
been recorded so that obviously ! love that (inaudible) we have 4 different post 4
different ID's within the stock so once on those shifty aftemoon that is booked io
the stamp books because they won't use it on the web you see and the boat is
usually started on a Tuesday and continued Wednesday morning now we normally
be put up in (inaudible) system before 1.00 unless it particularly does it and we just
haven't got the chance but normally I (inaudible) so after 1.00 and its close there is
only tea pots to the stocking that has to be input onto the system. Books want to
plus he any front office materials like postal orersand stamp books so they would
not be on the 4-1,
Sw So you mentioned there about the different passwords, has everyone their own
password?
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AM Yes
sw And they confidential?
AM No the I keep a record of them they don’t know each others I have the record
SW The don't know each other but you have a record of their passwords.
AM Well the record is (inaudible) in front yeah
Sw Does anyone know where to gain access to that record?
AM Yes it is on the under.one-of the {inaudible).
sw So then
AM Anyone can see it yeah
SW And also I had meant to ask you before we never really discuss the absence and
the leave record did you have when was the last time you yourself was off on
holidays?
AM I had a few days again I was opening up the offence and going off mostly because
I couldn't anyone to do the opening so I would open up (inaudible)
sw Can you remember (inaudible)
AM Yes
SW Mr McLavghun is just checking through his records . Do you keep a record of all
your stuff when ever you go off on holiday?
AM Just a minute
sw Its dark house
AM Dark house. I keep my (inaudible)
sw That is very good.
AM The fast one I have the (inaudible) 1" of March and you wait to a couple of days no
I can't find the reference for this (inaudible). Basically that time in March is justa
use up days from but again I would have opened up you know there wasn'ta single
day that ! wasn't actually here at some point.
SW So you would have opened up what in the evening.
AM I would have come in and helped them close up.
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SW And get it closed up?
AM Because they would have (inaudible) security or (inaudible)
SW And what about the cash count for that period of time?
AM I came in on the Wednesdays
sw And you've (inaudible)
AM Well I came in at the point where yeah it was ready to go.
le sw Can anyone of your staff prepare cash account everywhere to go away. .
AM Not at present, they can go up to a certain point and finish in dealing with the
reports and that other ones that experienced have to do that and they not go
beyond actually physically putting the finished (inaudible) so it is more or else up to
@ point (inaudible). I have acted (inaudible)
sw That is 15° of March to 31” of March.
AM Yeah
FT Were you often bothered during March and late lastly in May, did you actually
{inaudible)
AM Yes those yeah that is right.
FT So you did
AM The name on (inaudible) I had the (inaudible) which is not in this folder and in it was
only 35 inside
Sw So it was only a matier of days.
AM Yeah
FT You seem very organised all your records and everything, what were before you
sw Teacher
AM School teacher
FT What subject did you teach
AM Languages, Spanish and French. I've always had records apart from my own
name
sw So you have also you've mentioned then they also have counter do you yours
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serve at the counter?
AM Yes I was
SW So you'd always be on hand at the counter and do all the transactions?
AM Exactly (inaudible)
Sw Now today now we (inaudible) auditors and 9.00 she completed the audit,
whenever she was completing the audit she was checking the cash figure and the
I-seems-to-be-some seemed to have been some problems with the cash wondered
can you tell me about that.
AM Yes (inaudible) nates and coins probably and £989.97 there I would enter it on the
tele sheet I won't enter on to the cash figure.
sw So she found out extra
AM And there was different bundles of notes I don't know the person who was doing it
has not entered the presumably someone bundled onto the tele sheet.
SW I am so whenever she was going through her pro cash or statement a £20 a £20
note figure didn’t seem to be there and she came in to speak to you about it and
you reached for some money
AM The money was in the bottom of the safe.
sw So what was that money doing al the bottom of the safe?
AM That is the very last money was in which is counter money so in other words all the
units of notes from front safe and bottom safe already (inaudible) and all are left are
usually loose notes so I knew bundles are there (inaudible) and it was not exact
1,000, 2,000 to 500
sw Okay so then that is put empty to this
AM Its all together I know, well all counter money and morning money (inaudible)
sw So then Anna then she had said that she was not over and balanced do you think
why is that if you know that.
AM At first one bundle I think this was almost entirely not and whether the person
always (inaudible) I don't do the money
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SW Do you never (inaudible)
AM Never unless its a Saturday morning or something (inaudible) I physical can’t hotd
the money because the person is always with me here is less experienced, counter
assistant and she will do he coins for perhaps and I will count all the counter which
is all she does the only time that ! would
sw Saturday
AM Saturday this would this is the only time I would-physically count notes (inaudible)
by adding the big money from the front safe usually.
sw So who would have counted the money last night?
AM Carol, she always counts them on Wednesday.
sw So is she always going to know when (inaudible) there is someone always counts
on a Tuesday or (inaudible)
AM Yeah there is one on a Tuesday there is only one person now (inaudible) on a
Monday there is two so Carol counts it on Monday as well
sw But you will never count it yourself?
AM Not since I'd finished I certainly don’t no
SW Have you thought of counting it whenever, I know it sounds
AM Yes I would say when you look at that yes of course how can you say you trusted
her judgement (inaudible) obviously I find things that I find things if I do it and {
would say to them well you'll find that you know you've forgot how those columns
work lined up only the last time (inaudible) the columns weren't lined up and we
were 500 or 600 or what ever it was out from what was aclually there. Things like
that obviously if I heard that its another person looking at it and you knew whatever
and you tend to spot things (inaudible) the first person. (inaudible) of course that
is what you would say
sw What was your balance showing there last night, your balance cash account?
AM 1800 was it. I don't have 1332
sw And that went over or
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sw So was 1332 short?
AM Yeah
FT £30.13 yes I have found the copy
sw So it was 13.32 short there last night how his your balancing normally within the
office.
}-—-~ AM it's normally at a we'll say that much over or that much under unless there is
(inaudible) in particular and if there is anything more than that I can't find mistake
on a Wednesday afternoon. If its an average I will give it a one save and wait for
another (inaudible) or the next weeks under each (inaudible).
sw So if you had
AM Ifitis under I will make it up from whatever is there from earlier (inaudible)
Sw If the (inaudible) doesn’t balance as before reasonably large amount what records
do you check before you actually say anything,
AM I check and lets say anything that is checkable and dailies, cash those are the
occasions when I would start from start to finish and do the cash if have to do later
that aftemoon in advance in the afternoon and physical entries on how we had to
deal with cashes, make sure they tally up with, I will check my overnight cash
folders and make sure I am not widely (inaudible) was the previous night and I'd
always had to check coins in the previous night knowing if they got around or not,
they are chippy (inaudible) and again its check
Sw Cheque or cashes
AM No the only time I will check those was the very very start, if there was something
('d (inaudible) at night
SW So you won't normally check the (inaudible)
AM Whatever it is if ! can't find any of the things that I'd check I simply take it as an
average or a deposit.
sw Sc right if a (inaudible) pension sent and if whenever you were doing the pensions
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it was indicated on the add list that there was (inaudible) than what you actually
had, how would your accounts balance.
AM Well if it (inaudible) and
Sw And indicate on the add list
AM On the add list
Sw If you don't have it in the bundle.
AM it will be entered on: the-subsequent add list.
sw I'd say I just want to get there if you balance this out and haven't checked the
pensions so say for instance if there had been a mistake and (inaudible) and the
pensions and so many foils say 10 foils at £ 75 ended on the add list or in the
bundle there was only 9 foils at £75, how would you account balance.
AM All things being equal anything over or under should up if the cash has been equal
just to show up as an over
sw Just so show up so and if that was the case then it would up as an average then
AM Yeah that is right. Again I believe this is standard practise, if the (inaudible) is
beyond a certain amount 50 or 60 we would keep it to one side and use it for
deficits or just keep it there you know whatever.
Sw At the (inaudible) were mentioned and you'd agree then if there is 10 foils £75
showing on the add list and whenever you went to the bundle to check up there
was only 9 that the accounts should balance over.
AM if you tell the system you are paying out more and you actually paying out your
(inaudible) would be over because obviously that's with inaudible) cash is right it
should show its over.
sw (inaudible) you mentioned if the bounces whatever Anna was doing today she put
through the pension allowances and the pay 2311 in it, whenever she pulled up all
the pensiog bundles all the add lists they were not the same total as what is on
summary and was claimed in the cash account.
19.57 AM So the figure for pension allowances its on that but it isn't the same as when you
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physically add up all the pension allowances.
sw Whenever you physically add up all the add lists and pensions
AM Something is either in or not there in the pensions allowances.
sw All the (inaudible) bundles and the add lists that are around the bundles and you
check them and they are okay.
SW And they are OK, ifit says at 140 (inaudible)
AM itis 140 yes
Sw And whenever you add up all the add list there because its okay, the total is
AM Over or under.
Sw Its under, the total is claimed on the summary it is referred to the one that is, the
total of the add fist, can you explain why that would be?
AM Well fine you said the entered above was actually there
SW Well if you think this is and I thought you have just explained to me and the system
has all the information there so if you are feeding that information and you have
pulled off your add list
AM Yes, yes
sw You've goi your add list there and the invoice and you've said you've checked them
and everything is okay you've cut off and that is ail right {inaudible) system stores
that information and whenever you press the button before the P 2311 to be printed
out that should be the same information,
AM lf everything has been removed and we entered correctly it should be as you say.
sw Can you give any explanation why this.
AM Well if its figure is over that means too many foils have been entered and there
aren't foils for them is that the case, its over,
sw So its been that (inaudible)
AM If the figure on the system print out is above or (inaudible) depending on the
allowances that means that there are more entries in the pension allowances done
or actually recorded on the printout.
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21.18 sw The add list, if you have got the add list that is the list is put round the bundle of
foils and the add list is correct to what the whal the bundle of foil says.
AM Yes
sw So that make then, that Information is quite through in the system and just comes
oul and that should be the same.
AM Unless foils are put in if there aren't there aren't or they are put incorrectly. This
~ I shoutd-be right because if they are incorrect in the first printout and there is always
a first printout, they should be correct in the second as well providing they are
taken out (inaudible) and enter them. That's I mean I always say if there is a
problem there then the procedure like I have (inaudible) on another day where the
procedure could before this can be put for the printout whiles they shouldn't be kept
over for second print out but I (inaudible) on a Wednesday because they're closed
Sw No its not necessarily on a Wednesday
FT What (inaudible) confusion is perhaps you can show yes there is (inaudible)
because I mean that was
AM No lam
FT an example
Sw I can show you the bundles, the bundles aren't in order
FT Just to say they (inaudible) so we all know what we are talking about describe it for
the benefit of the tape as to exactly what we are talking about its a people would be
listening to the tape me not necessarily understand the complexity and the system.
The pension allowance bundled which is produced in respect of Wednesday the
25" of July I think if Suzanne could bring your attention to the group 11's
sw Yes there was (inaudible)
FT Group.7
sw That was group 7
FT There are only group 7
sw Should be 127, 125
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22.18 FT So if we look at group 7 for that (inaudible) there should be
Sw Right the (inaudible) then for group 7 17, 206.60 but not correct,
AM £206.60
sw That is right, and
FT (inaudible) showing at 17
Sw ts showing at 17 there are 17 of them at 206.60 and ihat is carried down to £120
and (inaudible) to P 2311 it should show,-425-voice-at_£22,834.07 but when you
look at P 2311 it showing 126 voice at £23,041.37 which is the difference of 1 foil
206.
AM If that is from another group which I believe that was it that one was probably
entered in another group incorrectly, its taken out, it’s then put back in because
obviously there is a problem then with the way that is taken from the incorrect
could stick another some where put in the centre incorrectly in another group and
obviously there is (inaudible) you know I see what you mean.
sw You see what ! mean?
AM Yeah, now I see that
sw That was a 1350 on the 25” of July so (inaudible) are able to run off reports from
the horizon system the logs some transaction loss tell us when you have actually
AM Done that
SW Printed the print out the add list and then confirmed it. Now we did want today
FT Can you (inaudible) yesterday afternoon?
AM The one’s (inaudible)
FT What sort of time have you been doing that?
AM Any time from 1.00 through to the final printout, whatever
FT Can you remember specifically doing any yourself yesterday?
AM Till 16, I am pretty sure ! did that whether I (inaudible) did one as weil I don't know
whether if one of them has a (inaudible) I you know like fo see whal is going out
and what is going in obviousty but if they are doing the second check it’s possible
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one of them contracted as well maybe two of them know how to correct these
things probably (inaudible) trust their judgement on that and
FT But if you need a correction wouldn't you actually produce no add listing for your
pension allowances
AM We check it except we take without even taking the second printout as given that
hasn't been checked with the first printout, if the final totals were checked using
I second final printout and your first one which was incorrect and number of foils that
(inaudible) how much foils has been taken out and how foils should be in clearly
yes I see (inaudible) yeah no we don't reconcile that I don't reconcile that second
Correct (inaudible) finish add list as the first one, that is what we used to do before
we changed.
SW Before the (inaudible)
AM Before the system changed and I thought it was too messy always causes us 2 lot
of problems but I see what you mean obviously if you if both forms where taken
(inaudible) three forms were taken out your total number of forms will be ‘one thing
on your first count out and something different on the same (as would your cash
figure yes obviously and it is not and I don't look
sw Because that is showing there that
AM But as she did was spot at my {inaudible) she is fight (inaudible) and ! am £306
over
sw So if there (inaudible) you would be over.
MM Yes
AM No it I think it is not genuine I mean, I see what ! know the (inaudible) obviously
because that is what you have to look at
SW That was the first error
AM Yes as apparently
sw We actually found 3 errors and today's PTC 11 that was done (inaudible) of the
week, thatis the one
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AM In one day or I week?
sw Over the period this week's (inaudible) B 2311 as a weeks pensions so over paid
week we have 3.
AM Well that is
FT If you let's look at this is the transaction one, limited transaction just looking at the
Inaudible) £206.60 and we see that on this there are on the add listing you've got
there it shows 17-£206-68-the-transaction log actually shows 18 and the 18" one
was put in by yourself timed on this add listing is 1322 but the add listing time is an
hour out because this is GMT and we are on British (inaudible) time at the moment
So in fact it is 1422 (inaudible) 22 minutes past 2 yesterday afternoon you put a
value of £206.60 into the system I will show you. Next to the block on the add list
and if you look at the user name the user name shows AMC 601 is that your user
name?
AM That is right what, there was an (inaudible) for the 206.60 entered in another group
so that was
FT So (inaudible) machine now there will a check on reversals we should find that he
206.60 was reversed out?
AM Pretty sure well should be reversed out then should be re-entered. Now I see that
problem.
Sw So if you say you were the first to add up who (inaudible) machine now.
AM No as I you asked me for an explanation my explanation will be must have been in
another group or then must have been in another day not entered or entered in
correctly this is the 3 these are the only 3 possibilities for taking something out, if
they are not there, incorrectly entered or they will be in another group. The
procedure is take them out and re-enter them those 3 as they are re-entered and
then not checked as the first printout yes ! can say this has been the problem.
Sw So that is that one particular one there, group 7
AM But if that was done and my (inaudible) was correct that actually (inaudible).
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22.48 sw And you were over
AM (inaudible)
Sw There was 3 errors altogether and we had group
FT Right if you look on the Tuesday on the 24/07 the group eleven's
sw Group 11
FT Yeah I (inaudible) check up with the bundle
sw bundle _
FT Which will be here. hat is 24" the 24", if you look at the (inaudible) for the group
11's you should find one group 41 11,055.37 you find 542 eleven hundred eleven
thousand
SW eighty eight pounds and twenty 22 pence would you agree?
AM Yeah
FT And that is the Add listing would you like to compare the add listing and I will show
you the add listing its 24" of
sw This is the add listing for the 24” of July time 1337 and in group 11's, 141
£11,005.37 and there's is 142 £11,088.22. That is the second one.
FT An that amount was (inaudible) at 12.40 on the 24/07 that amount was actually
entered in which was at the time that you were doing your (inaudible) summaries
on that particular day. So that is 2 examples and there is a 3 example for the
week now that is just this week.
AM Obviously as I was (inaudible) she'd be as they are being changed or as they
reversed or (inaudible) or whatever or not entered at all, they should be put onto
the system printed and checked again (inaudible)
SW But as My colleague here said that there is 3 errors of a similar nature in a one
particular week
AM (inaudible) several months ago for again there was (inaudible) bunch of foils from
whoever it was I had to correct those and again it was 2 or 4 foils that is true.
sw (inaudible)
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26.35 AM (inaudible) it will be. My assumption is the procedure worked because you know
nothing appeared to be too out and there was a problem with that procedure that is
not been entered correctly or entered {inaudible)
FT We are actually fairly close to the end of the tape (inaudible) we stop the discussion
about point of surveying a lot more (inaudible) but obviously with the tape coming
to end we into 40 miautes now nearly appropriate to stop the tape and stop a fresh
~_——} tape:-Just for the benefit of the tape if you'd read out the seal on the top right hand
corner please?
AM 047808
27.32 FT Okay if you can sign that for me Mr. Mclavghun please. (inaudible) all person's
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Duration of interview 40 Minutes Tape reference no 047809
Interviewing Officer(s) Suzanne Winter Frederick Leslie Thorpe
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0.00 FT The time is 14.37.
sw 1am continuing this interview, for voice identification purposes I'd like
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AM Alan McLaughlin,
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sw And Suzanne Winter. [d like to remind Mr McLaughlin that he is still
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rely on in court it may harm your defence. If you do say anything it
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1.26 AM. Yeah.
sw (inaudible). While the tapes were switched off can you confirm we did
not discuss any details of the inquiry?
AM Yes we didn’t.
sw So we go back to where we were, and we were at the balance. Never
really looked at the entries.
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sw And repeated 311 and remember [ asked you to explain the 3 areas that
have bee discovered on the P2311 you couldn't offer any explanation.
AM Oh they said that the procedure that ] follow and have followed, my last
assumption was that that was correct and should account for anything
taken out of system or put onto the system, that’s all I can say. And T
can see that if you don’t, well it’s to do with the pressure um of
correcting and entering things under the system that those things should
be exactly the same. They should balance each other out.
sw Em em.
AM Now that is the way the procedure operates, it should operate.
sw Em em.
AM All [can say is it clearly hasn’t, this has not happened. And, there are
values entered there which are from other foils. It’s whether they were
in other groups or they were corrections or they were held over for re-
entry. Um, I would say that that’s the area er where they come from and
clearly if they’re not there they shouldn't be in.
sw So as you mentioned before you thought you may have done the first.
the first amount which was in the group 7. and it may have been a
reversal.
AM (t may have been [ don’t know. [ mean there were several reversals.
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3.35 sw So......
AM
sw So the system which you (inaudible) reversals, if, if, if you had gone in
and done reversals then the system would show up. But reversals have
been...
AM Yeah sometimes if we've think it is significant reversals whatever, they
would be-kept—____.
Sw So also the first two, we've got the first two entries there of the first two
errors of the other groups and there was a third one as well.
AM Em em.
sw You wanted to see the third one (inaudible) to show? That’s that.
FT Right so this is a group 13 if you'd like to look at the PT3 double INA,
there is an entry there showing 65 items at, it would be 49 thousand, er 4
thousand 9 hundred and some pounds.
AM Em em.
FT Only with that listing it shows 64 items at 48 pounds, er 4 sorry, 4
thousand 8 hundred and 47 pounds 51 which is a difference of 92
pounds and !5 pence and vas transacted on the, the 19" which was
last Thursday, Thursday of last week. Exactly the same scenario
AM Em em.
FT as the other (wo. It would seem, we've got the transaction log. What's
this? And the traction, transaction log shows that that item was input at
16.43 which is in fact 17.43 on the 19”,
AM Em em.
FT Again it’s the last item
AM Yeah
FT of the day after......
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5.28 AM That would have been when we're correcting,
FT Yeah?
AM the second (inaudible). Um, have they been put in twice in other words
there’s a, there's a foil for all those things and there’s also an entry for
them then and no foil, that’s, that’s the case isn’t it?
FT Well if we can go back to the, to the 25", yesterday. Now you explained
your, your accounting procedure and how you make adjustments. -
AM Em
FT Now, that’s an add listing which has been cut into several pieces.
AM Yeah
FT And it’s covered in red tape. It's Brookfield Post Office
AM Right.
FT and it was run off at 13.07 on the 25". And each item on the add listing
has been ticked. And as you say they are items which show, for instance
there’s one in a group. 13s and it’s a hundred and 17 pounds 20 and
it’s been marked out I. It’s a further item in a group 13 showing a
hundred and 48 pounds out I which is exactly what you've been
describing. The
AM Emm
FT system you would use to reverse those items out. On the, on the 25" as
we've already identified there was the amount of, it’s all right, remind
myself there was the amount of um 2 hundred and 6 pounds and 60
pence in a group 7s. I look at the group 7s, the group 7s show 2 hundred
and 6 pounds 60. 17 items ticked as being correct. No amendment
required yet we find.
AM May [ have a look?
Sw that 2 hundred and 6 pounds and 60 P. an extra one’s been input.
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AM Who's done that?
719 FT Okay? So if you'd like to inspect that and you just tell me if that’s what
the reports will show from the office. Is that the standard checking
procedures?
AM (inaudible)
FT So, it (inaudible) your theory a little bit that a reversal was carried out
—_ [——from another group?
AM No it’s my suggestion that um, one possible explanation for removals is
reversal or are the foils may have whatever on it.
FT So there. there is no item?
AM Yeah.
FT If you'd like to check this listing there is no item in there for 2 hundred
and 6 pounds and 60 pence other than 17 shown under the title of group
7 and that is the amount shown on the add listing which company would
have voided the foils. There is no other item for 2 hundred and 6
pounds and 60 removed from any other group
AM Right.
SW Or indicate to be removed from any of the group when in fact, there is
no other value, no other group contains the value of 2 hundred and 6
pounds and 60 pence. So it hasn't been put in the wrong group or the
incorrect group, and then taken out. It’s been put in additionally into the
group 7s.
AM Yeah
FT And so what are your thoughts?
AM Em, I'm getting (inaudible) out, [ would have said well there must be a
reason for either taking something out or putting it onto the system. I
mean that clearly has just. out of the blue. And then there is no foil for
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it.
FT Then again if we look at the 24" which you had a look at and there was
an additional entry for $2,
9.07 AM Em.
FT That one’s an 85P shown in the, (inaudible) in the group IIs, but we
look at the group 11s, again the listings has all been ticked in and has
been cut off the (inaudible). checking-forafinaudible). The 82 pounds.
85. There are three foils shown which is what you've included on your
AM Em
FT add listing. There is no annotation on any other group to remove 82
pounds 85, there’s in fact only one amendment to the whole listing
which is on a group 13s which it shows the 79 pounds 80 and it says one
out. Other than that,
AM (inaudible)
sw everything was correct as shown yet when we checked the totals on the
P23 double IMA we find that it’s been increased by the 82 pounds 85
pence. And we have a third entry of course for.
AM Is there a value for that amount
session?
FT In what respect? What, so that. that was on the 24".
AM ‘Yeah but it, but that’s session one in the morning. Is there a subsequent
I, I don’t know, is there a subsequent,
SW So would you (inaudible) twice.
AM M25 session?
Pr you'd run them off twice on a Thursday would you? (inaudible)
AM Monday,
FT Tuesday.
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AM Tuesday, Thursday,
FT So you’d run em off twice?
10.51 AM sometimes on Friday, they’re done twice yeah. And (inaudible) the
second session.
FT ‘The fisting, the, the following listing was in fact correct and there was
no sign of any amendments on the second listing. Um, but in fact...
__ AM But in fact but, a
FT for that (inaudible)
AM was the foil but, billed from the first listing that’s what I’m saying. No
it will be correct cos it’s entered onto the second one but is it from the,
either lunch time foils that’s been gathered together or been removed,
when the first one for some other reason. In other words there's a
couple of foils waiting there to be input onto session 2.
sw Right.
AM Um, they're not supposed to be inputted again before cut off in session
one.
sw Em em.
AM Oy any values are. foes thar follow or does any, do any of those
foils were late back to the first session. to a previous session.
FT We haven't, we haven’t.......
AM That's, that’s the (inaudible), are they held over?
PT We haven't been able to find any evidence of that.
AM Right.
FT What we found this week is not an isolated incident.
AM No?
FT That's why we're here.
AM Yeah Ive realised that, [ realise that.
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Fr It’s not that isolated. We found this week exactly what we've been
finding,
AM Em
12.25 FT for a number of weeks going back. This week we have the benefit
because we're in the office,
AM Em
FT we've-broughtthetransaction logs, we've brought the event logs and
we've actually got your add listings which were recovered from the
dustbin to show
AM Right.
FT the checking process you've taken.
AM (inaudible)
FT ‘They have in fact been checked and there’s no indication on any of these
that amendments or alterations were called for.
AM Em
FT Now we haven’t got at this moment in time the transaction and event
logs for previous weeks, that dated is actually in the date of warehouse,
AM Emem.
FT with (inaudible) when it has yet to be recovered but that is going to be
recovered.
AM Yeah.
FT But Suzanne has done a Jot of work on this over a number of weeks, and
every single week.
AM Em
FT there is a variation between what your add lists and your physical
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AM Emem.
FT of the cash account. Now, as cross reference to that we have checked
the results through the cash count balance.
AM Em em.
13.37 PT Cos as you rightly said earlier on if these amounts were claimed extra
that would reflect in your cash account,
AM Em ———
FT you would declare, you would have a surplus in your cash account, and
in fact for an office of this size turning over in excess of 2 hundred
thousand pounds worth of pension allowances week,
AM Em
FT your balancing is quite exceptionally good.
AM Em em.
FT Tan. [an must be all credit to you to the systems in the way you operating
um but when [ look through them going back to the beginning of the. of
this financial year,
AM Em
FT There's ups and downs cos there's nothing. I don’t usually want to go to
above 50 pound
AM Em
FT either way.
AM Well that’s because if there’s any over (inaudible) it’s kept fora
subsequent deficit.
FT Yeah. .
AM It went beyond 50 or whatever.
FT But things that have been declared and you know,
AM Yeah.
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FT 13 pounds surplus, 9 pounds surplus, 25 pound short.
AM Right.
FT 6 pounds 32 short, 10 pound short you know for the (inaudible) for the
money you've got,
AM Yeah.
PT it’s exceptionally good except,
—AM—— Except.
FT this. So, what l want to know is what’s been going on?
AM It's obviously a pattern which you know has developed here. Whether
it’s derides from these procedures thinking this was correct, this was
okay cos they were working out all right at the end of the week. Um,
not cross referencing first and second printouts.
SW Em em.
AM Not double checking the cash cos again that would show me if] was
wildly out, The cash is correct, you're over or under basically and, and
it shows. Um, things have fallen into this pattern of between the re-
entries and removals from the system.
sw Well as, as we mentioned today now you had the
AM Em
SW bit of the areas there and you said yes, that would show you're over and
you may have run your balance and as Les explained how this all first
came to light was that um, Mr Hamilton gets
AM Em em.
sw the pensions and we're concerned because they had done a rota check,
AM Em.
sw and noticed the discrepancies.
AM Em
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sw and then they checked a further four weeks,
AM Yeah
16.13 sw and decided right then there’s the discrepancies were continuous.
AM Yeah,
sw And that’s whenever they asked me then to get involved.
AM Em em.
sw Aad the pouches were sent-to-me-directly,—_..
AM Directly.
sw And I checked the pension pouches every week for five weeks, And for
every week the exact same pattern of the summary,
AM Not
sw being of a higher figure than what the actual add lists were.
AM Emm
Sw Now there was also keying errors and there were on occasions over
claims as well.
AM Em em.
sw Where an extra docket had been over claimed. But the main errors were
all in the mi
AM Em.
sw And what made it interesting was that you always seem to be balancing.
AM Em em.
SW Near enough as...
AM Yeah, it would start, we got dreadful problems balancing cos of the
problems with the capture system and the change over to horizon, things
were very see-saw, very up and down you know. Em.
FT Where did you (inaudible)
AM It wasn’t stable at all. pardon?
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FT When did you go onto horizon?
17.29 AM In September of 99, and it wasn’t stable, the balance were not stable at
all,
sw Em em.
AM in that period.
FT But that’s 2 years ago.
~ AM Yeah. - —_
FT Yeah well you could control by now not then.
AM No, no but again the um there were procedures and patterns in place
then. Obviously they've been changed several times, since then the
most recent one was the one we referred to earlier on. And changing
from tallying two totals on the character to just excepting the second
total.
sw Em em.
AM (inaudible) the problem.
sw But if that’s a problem and that, whenever I check the pensions it was
happening every week so every week you should have been over in your
balance.
AM Yeah.
sw by the discrepancies that { was discovering in your pensions.
AM Well, you know, if (inaudible) I was counting it correctly on Wednesday
she should be over. And she showed me over or under according to the
accuracy of the. the um, the data, of course it should,
sw And whenever it’s happening every week, does it not seem strange that
there's.
AM But. clearly that’s not right. Clearly whatever pattern this has fallen into
is not right cos she’s not have things entered which are not there or
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things taken out.
sw Em em.
AM And so on, etc. I yeah obviously I accept that. Um, all I can say is that
hadn't I, cash, I took cash figures shown such discrepancies in the
weekly business or whatever (inaudible) and [ would have done
sonething about it before now. I mean, I have simply taken at face
value-what my castrfigures has handed to me (inaudible). [ wish there
were other aspects of that procedure that clearly I knew weren't um are,
T realised that they put us under far to much pressure to get things in and
out quickly and accurately. And whatever pattern develops from there
it’s caused this, this problem, but I still] would have been able to find it,
all my cash,
SW Emem.
AM Over (inaudible).
sw So you should have find your cash over but,
AM Yeah
sw you're saying that you didn’t find your cash over?
AM When it was over i simpiy kept it till the next time. We showed forty or
fifty maximum of that. Kept over next time it was under um to make it
up.
FT Can you just clarify, you're saying you’re showing 40, 50 whatever it
was.
AM Em
Fr Was that the true figure?
AM No if it was wildly over like a couple of hundred or whatever that
money would be kept aside in the...
Fr Well would it be shown as a cash account?
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AM The 40 or 50?
FT So you wouldn’t show it if you, if you...
AM No if it’s 250 no.
PT If you're 250 pounds over, okay you cash
AM Yeah.
20.25 FT Say, say, say last night that, that,
AM Yeah ~
FT so you're 5 hundred pounds over when you cashed out last night,
AM Yeah.
FT What figure would you have actually shown in your balancing figure?
AM Well it......
FT Would you show 5 hundred pounds?
AM We would put, J would put um, a figure at the side in the overage and
look to keep for.
FT Yeah, (inaudible)
AM .and it could have been, and we, we, we never went, I never went
above um 40 or 50 of it was over.
FT
AM By gaining any, it’s was hardly a handful of (inaudible), I can hardly
think, my hands were (inaudible) actually shown that. (inaudible)
FT Okay lets go back,
AM It's not that shown me that
FT Lets, go back, lets go back to last time, (inaudible) lets......
AM you know, cos there is, cos I keep a date on my overage and (inaudible)
and there's nothing entered for this cash account um........
FT Lets, lets go back to last night,
AM Right.
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FT Okay, when you declared your cash last night or yesterday
AM Yeah
FT afternoon for your balance? What was the figure that you actually
declared, was the figure.......?
AM That figure. [ didn’t check, I said that sounds pretty close, that’s it.
FT Well was you, was you cash it just after it had been declared yesterday?
TAM ——I- No. It was declared well, maybe not the English the um 20s and 10s
were portions of whatever, nothing um...
FT No I haven't (inaudible)
AM No hold on.
FT (inaudible) which shows exactly what happened yesterday so pethaps
you'd like to think about it, what happened yesterday with the casb.
AM It was (inaudible) declared, it was re-declared.
FT It was re-declared. why?
AM Yeah.
FT Why was it re-declared?
AM Cos I, I must have re-counted it and yeah I. I, nay it wasn't because it
was so much over or whatever and that’s money"s gone somewhere, It
was because checking the um.
FT Depending when you see it this morning again wasn’t it cos you were
(inaudible).
AM Yeah [, exactly, yeah, but (inaudible).
FT So why, why did you have to re-declare_ your cash yesterday?
AM E did not well that, 9 hundred and 80 I’m sorry. I am completely
unaware of that, you know but L. I'm sitting on a re-tally or check one
area of the money, I didn’t check the whole, al] of the money from start
to finish. I may have checked one area. The 5, the fivers are all, well
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always but I mean, whenever I check the fivers they normally need
adjusted, 20s need adjustment (inaudible) you know I would have
checked in one area of it, but [ did not go right from start to finish.
FT Okay.
AM And it, and that 9 hundred, I’m sorry that’s a complete surprise that
actual (inaudible).
FT Well actually when you look-at-the-figures-it’ s actually not a surprise
cos you originally declared your cash 13.58 yesterday?
AM Yeah.
FT And you showed declared cash 64 thousand 7 hundred and 83 pounds
and 68p.
AM Yeah.
Ft You then, that was 13.58 and then you re-declared the cash at 14.32
that’s what 34 minutes later?
AM Yeah.
FT And it was 64 thousand 1 hundred and 23 pounds 68.
AM Em em.
FT So we have a difference ihere of around about 6 hundred and 60 pounds
okay? Then we add onto that the discrepancy identified in the pension
allowances,
AM Em
FT Which is a further 3 hundred and 81 thousand 60 pence, we're coming
fairly close to this 9 hundred and odd pound that the auditors found
surplus this morning.
AM Em em.
FT So, the question is were you that much over yesterday and you declared
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envelope to cover any future shortages or surplus’s?
AM Well, if I'd approached it like that I would have done that. Actually that
‘one yesterday I did not know that but that is what [ would have done had
it been like that
24.48 sw So
AM { would have done it like that, yes absolutely I would have taken it,
_ changed it and held it, but f did not yesterday and so I completely a
unaware of that figure.
FT Well it showed 30 pounds 32 shortage in your accounts.
AM But that was just yeah.
FT The auditors come this morning and we can find clear evidence
AM (inaudible)
FT where this money was, the surplus that they found which is in your
office, it hasn't been taken out the office
AM No.
FT it was there actually in the safe, but we found errors to account for it.
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FT
AM
FT
AM
Yeah.
Now, what, would we have found errors having come last week, the
week before, the week before. All the weeks that’s Suzanne's checked
Ummmmm
where these pensions allowances can be, a greater amount has been
claimed on your cash account,
Yeah
has actually been paid.
Well it seems to be definitely arye that’s clear.
And that’s been happening week upon week upon week.
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FT So the question is, at what point and when have you been adjusting your
cash accounts to show an acceptable balance?
25.35 AM Acceptable yeah.
FT You've been doing that, you’ve been. so really...
AM Yeah, we were, yeah. I’m yes.
FT But so strictly it’s actual account is it? It’s not a true cash account that?
AM ‘No-butagainr-my-well, my understanding from others is that that is the
pattern that they follow. [ mean I know....
FT This cash account should be a certified cash account to show that at this
moment in time that is a true state of the Post Office account
AM Right
FT that goes through sub-post office. That's what it should be.
AM (inaudible).
FT If you'd a thousand pound over you show it.
AM Show it yeah.
FT You can still (inaudible) withdraw it and you can still put your envelope
in your safe,
AM (inaudible), yeah
FT if you're a thousand pound short the following you take it out,
AM That
FT you show the shortage and you re-introduce it.
AM Well I was not clear about that. I’m only...
Fr (inaudible)
AM Yes I know, samples......
Fr That is the pracess.
AM Yeah.
FT That is the. this is a legal document.
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AM I don’t, then [ (inaudible) deny that at all and my, but I was not clear
about that. My. what I have gathered from other sub post masters was
they showed their cash account to be as you said (inaudible) that’s all
banked and that money was held and then added in when it was down.
That was my own understanding of it. If that’s not clear and obviously
that’s what you know, what I've worked on or towards or with. I mean
clearly looking at it from another perspective,-yes-you-can-sce-that's a
legal document and that just states exactly what it says in black and
white.
FT So okay, so this 60 thousand pound,
AM 1 won't deny that yeah.
sw that the auditors found this morning, is that an accumulation of losses er
accumulation of gains which have been not.....?
AM My account, I mean I haven't checked it. 1 mean it’s, they’re
presumably accumulated but they are not written down as this week
(inaudible) five. You know so I, for, for as I say this for the my overage
envelopes have not had anything significant in them for a while.
Anything that has been in has gone out for an underage or sorry, 2
deficit.
FT So, so um.
AM I mean yeah if there was a large deficit the large overheads would go
into it.
FT Yeah, yeah f understand that and it’s not simply in practice
AM Yeah I mean
FT but the reality of the situation is you should show on that cash account
the true state of the post office account.
AM Well [ haven't been clear of
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FT By not doing that,
AM Yeah. I don’t
FT you're submitting a false account which is a criminal offence.
26.52 AM Yes and it opens up the whole
FT A can of worms.
AM possibility of (inaudible).
ET But you see the question is what else is wrong?
AM Yeah.
FT You know we've identified the pension allowances being wrong not just
this week,
AM But sis yeah.
FT plus a number of weeks and by significant amounts.
AM Yeah.
FT We're not talking 20 quid. 30 quid, 50 quid we're talking a lot of
money. Now at the end of day,
AM (inaudible).
FT as a post master you're responsible to make up those deficits.
AM Yeah, absolutely.
FT Right let me show you a true account the perhaps something
AM They wouldn't...
FT would have been done. Checks could have been carried out to try and
establish where the problems lye.
AM Em.
FT Or by falsifying your accounts.
AM Em, well { have followed, T have got into that pattern, it seemed to
working and you just continue with it whenever, ever seen. Even :
though [ always thought that the joint stock and the way foils are entered
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and re-entered and held over and put in. I always thought there was
some problem with that and you know would, obviously you’ve lived in
the past using single stock in this week, and simply do one checking but,
and everyone checks their own and all the rest of it. And they obviously
just (inaudible) it's caused you know. several areas a week.
27.40 sw And as Les says you're talking about a lot of money,
AM Em. — a
sw but you said that in your um (inaudible) book,
AM Yeah.
sw there would never be.
AM Weil there, there, there, there. there hasn't been for the past number of
weeks. There's no, I had put the dates on it if there’s any amount or
whatever. And there's a new (inaudible) of doing the envelope, there
was no dates with no amounts in it. But that may never, a couple of
error notices and a couple of over payments that have happened recently
and obviously, A. It’s significant to my. from before that was put into
balance those or to bring them up. Um. in other words some {inaudibie).
Um, and again, dui again I mean obviousty re gonna say well, show
the over payment then make it up.
Sw How long have you been doing thi.
AM Since they changed the system from the last time (inaudible) was in and
we were reconciling first and second printage. After that we just went
for a one priutout or I just went for the one printout and you know, that
pattern is developed (inaudible).
SW You see there's a pattern that I have seen. what concerns me is that
(inaudible) checked 5 weeks,
AM Yep.
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sw and there’s quite a lot of overages.
AM Emm
sw Over payments.
AM Its...
sw And whenever there are about, whenever they were analysing, checked
against your balance results that there is nothing coming up at all, and 3
—_—_— weeks later those 5 weeks it was just, it was the similar
AM Yeah.
sw discrepancies of this main summary being changed
AM Yeah.
sw or being different to your add lists. And then the auditors came in week
10,
AM (inaudible)
sw and checked the office.
AM But we were way under aren't we, aren’t we?
sw They checked the office in week 10 and then J started checking your
pensions in week 11.
AM Em em.
sw And from J started checking your pensions every week the same thing’s
happening. I mean, and not all the time but every week
AM Emmm
sw the same pattern. I knew as soon as I had looked at that pension pouch,
AM What's that?
Sw (inaudible) just go there right away and check the, the summary against
the add list.
AM Emm. You know what happens you fall into a pattern of doing
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sw But your office seems to run so well.
AM Well another respect yes. another respect not in that respect though.
You know that clearly isn't. Well, in other respects we do run well you
know but, um clearly there’s, something has gone badly. badly wrong
with that whole pattern of physically doing the action of taking those
a foils, printing them and checking them when you're doing them.
29.18 sw ~~ Teshouldsit doesn't explain how for last night for instance there’s 3
amounts were then, put through the system.
AM Again it’s personal time, trying to get the balance on, trying to get it you
know done by a certain time in a way. Cos when I was first here you
know and they were all over the place, we were 8 o’clack, 9 o'clock at
night, yeah.
sw So what you're saying that maybe that foil, that extra foil was then
included in another (inaudible)?
AM Far from previous run, on other days you could say it was pre, could
have been a previous run cos there are 2 or several rans. You know
usually 2 runs. Um, I wouldnt have held over for entering to another
one but in fact entered in the run they come from originally f do or, ones
that are actually being held on the counter by the counter assistant who’s
still serving but not entering things on the system, and instead of being
entered once on the subsequent entry you know. how do they enter on
the first run and then again on the second one.
sw Cos it still doesn't explain
AM No, no there's some (inaudible) that, you know.
sw It doesn’t explain where the (inaudible)
AM That (inaudible)
sw showed you an actual add list that had been clicked
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AM Yeah, ‘
Sw and yes there was that amount so there should never have been any
changes made.
29,52 AM
sw So somebody has, has changing the system.
AM Well, through that system that’s operated correctly cos you a true figure
at the end of it, black and white that’s (inaudible) Clearly it was, if it’s
changed or manipulated or abused in anyway it doesn’t and, you know
the discrepancies come, come al! out.
FT Okay the bottom line is there are discrepancies,
AM Yeah.
FT we accept that, we can identify them and for this particular week we can
show exactly how that actually occurred. And previous weeks exactly
the same thing have occurred. Okay and we can say yeah there are
problems with the system. that’s one possibility.
AM Yeah.
FT Some have been keyed in in the wrong batch, it was (inaudible) batch is
was and put in the next batch of (inaudible) price. Yeah there’s a whole
host of reasons you"ve come up with as to why
AM Yeah.
FT ‘on how this could have happened. But the bottom line is, is going back
to the fundamental point that all of these errors have or should have
resulted, and you admit to this yourself, in your surplus in your cash
account.
AM Emem.
FT And your cash accounts do not show the surplus’s. Now you've already
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show an acceptable balance.
AM Yep
30.28 FT Now we want to know the extent of that, is it every week because our
records show that every week, you should have been significantly over
in your cash account. We've looked at the cash account system this
morning, I’ve gone back to the beginning of the year and there's nothing
—I significant in there, as I say,
AM No.
FT earlier on, there’s quite a complementary balance and figure.
AM Yeah right.
FT So with this happening every week. and if so what’s happened to the
money?
AM No they are worried about, no there are weeks where it would have been
significant over payments to, to customers you know, where (inaudible)
been multiplied by whatever.
FT So it’s account errors, so you make the errors (inaudible)?
AM So those are made good from whatever was in the envelopes yep.
tT Yep.
AM But they would have been, you mean some quite significance you know.
FT So you've had some quite big shortages?
AM Yes, there have been yep.
FT Okay, bur that doesn’t show on your account,
AM No it hasn't
Fr Okay. And so what we're saying is basically
AM Yep
FT thar this has been engineered to make good the shortages in your
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is what you're saving?
AM Well it’s certainly lead to that situation.
31.02 FT Yeah.
AM Where the, the pattern that has bee established and developed and
evolved that has certainly lead to situation where um as you say, that
account's figure is not what it should have been.
FT Right okay. So you’ve.had-same big shortage you become
AM Yeah,
FT accounting errors.
AM big, big shortages yep.
FT And for that reason with a little bit of manipulation here to (inaudible)
the surplus’s to make good the shortages?
AM Well it’s a pattern you know and
FT So that, that, that,
AM when people start...
FT that’s what"s happened?
AM Presumably, presume yep, when people, when that happens someone
starts wot id or whatever and it works.
FT Yeah.
AM You think oh fine, that’s balancing and all the rest of it, but stores up, a
bit stupid really it stores up problems and you know is not accurate
accounting.
FT No. So, so these alterations to the pension allowances.
AM ‘Well some, { mean how awful that hour actually, probably
er (inaudible)
AM yes T mean you know...
FT But there are some which are genuine?
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AM [fthere are, ves vou know with the.......
FT So..
31.29 AM There are no you know, f would say two thirds or three quarters are
actually you know the pressure (inaudible) of putting them in before
they’re showed. [ mean that is true yeah.
FT But it’s happening every week okay.
—__. AM It's ha...yeah .
FT You've been (inaudible)
AM Since that par, since that pattern of not doing the two (inaudible) you
know.
FT What, what we demonstrated from what we had from yesterday in
addition of 2 hundred and odd pounds, the additional 90 pounds, the
additional 82 pounds, they were left in the system to cover shortages.
AM No. The shorta what well, if there had been an (inaudible), shortage it
would have been made up from a previous um
FT From a previous week.
AM Yes but I mean there, to my knowledge there was no shortage um they"d
been carried from last week. Cant remember last week if cash that
had (inaudible)
Fr Well. last (inaudible) you're showing a figure of. week 17's cash
account is showing a shortage of 18 pounds and a penny.
AM Right.
FT Okay was that.....?
AM Well that would have been (inaudible).
FT Was that, but was that a true figure, I'm not. we're not saying it was 18
pound (inaudible) we make that but was it a true figure?
AM But there was no other, I. there was no other deficit there as far as I can
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tell. Cos I, it was made good Just there and I cant, [, no I don’t think it
was (inaudible).
31.56 FT (inaudible)
AM I would have, if there was something big I would know, I would
remember but declared, there wasn’t no.
FT Okay, right I think we’re getting up to the, the 40 minute again
sw Are we? _
FT 1 think for perhaps for convenience if We stop now and then if Mr
McLaughlin you start to sort of give some thought to exactly what's
been going on and then we can get a clear understanding in exactly
what's been happening,
AM Em em.
FT and then we can explain, you can explain that to us on the following
tape. So just for the benefit of the tape could you read out the seal
number again for me please?
AM 047809,
FT Okay that’s fine and if you could sign it as well please? Okay.
sw Thank vou.
FT Mr McLaughlin and if you could do the honours again for me?
Sw Yes.
FT (inaudible) Mr Mclaughlin just give some thought, you have a few
minutes (inaudible) the tapes being changed to exactly what has
happened and you remind in order then we can perhaps make some
headway in this. So all persons present has signed the tape. The time is
now 15.15 and [I'm stopping the tape.
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Date of Interview 26" July 2001
18:21 Time concluded 16:03
Time commenced 3:2
Duration of interview 42 Minutes Tape reference no 047810
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FT The time is 15:21
sw T’'m continuing this interview. J must remind Mr McLaughlin that he’s
still under caution. You do not have to say anything but I must caution
that if you do not mention when questioned something that you later
rely on in court it may harm your defence. If you do say anything it
may be given in evidence. While the tapes were switched off can you
confirm that we did not discuss any details of the enquiry?
AM Yes.
sw 1 also wish to remind you of your legal rights and ask you to sign, time
and date the form CS001. (Pause) Mr McLaughlin has signed and dated
the form and timed it at 3:21. Again he’s quite happy to continue
without legal advice. And are you also happy to continue witl
Jas friend?
AM Yeah.
sw Thank you. So just before the tapes finished and Mr McLaughlin erm
you had been indicating to us, yes, there would be times when you
1:38 would be over in the account...and you would keep it in an envelope,
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1:40 AM Right.
sw Right? So and your, the true set of figures for the account. ..would you
keep them anywhere? Would you have the record of
AM No.
sw What the true set would be?
AM Absolutely not, no. No.
sw And therrso~how much of a variance would there be with the
accounts, then?
AM Usually be in...erm....not er it’s, it's no. .there’s nothing erm...those
figures are not while the, I know, you're, you're saying perhaps they
should be but they are actually wildly at variance with what the figure
is, I mean it’s, it’s rarely that much out, mean erm...you, you know,
there, there, it's not, it's erm...1 mean there aren’t regular overages
physically don’t have regular overages erm
2:30 FT I thought you said you had regular large shortages?
AM No, I said they had occurred. but they aren’t regular as in. no. I mean,
but that there have been several erm in recent weeks, but I mean, they
wouldn't be like a weekiy or bi-weekly occurrence, nor would the
overages.
FT So how do you make making good those large shortages?
AM From what ever was in the overage er envelope.
FT How were the overages being generated?
AM Erm, presumably it’s...if there really is mistakes in the a Pension
Allowances foils, if the system is saying that it’s paying out this amount
and in fact it’s not paying out that amount. that’s an overage. (Pause)
Erm there have been very few errors in general with my National
Savings or those areas, I mean in the Past those have caused big
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problems or big errors but they....significant (inaudible) big in those
for, for quite a while, And...
3:50 FT And that would being one point you were actually saying that you were
aware of discrepancies in your account which were generating overages
and you've
AM Yeah.
FT Used that money to make good shortages. - =
AM Hh, hh, yes.
Fr Yeah? So that you say you were aware of the
AM Yes, I think, weren't
FT Discrepancies in pensions?
AM I mean, there, they, they, they weren't of a great order each time you
know,
FT Well, well,
AM I mean, (inaudible)
FT Let's look at this week. This week there was £381 - ball park figure is
that (inaudible) This sort of figure?
AM i don’t know (inaudibie) cos this 989 figure there, that’s the first, I mean
T'm completely unaware that we even had that. To me it seem close to
where, where the (inaudible) should be at, where the account should be
at. Erm that, that I mean I've...did not have any inkling of, of that at
all, none whatsoever.
FT Okay.
AM I mean,
FT You have actually demonstrated for us (Noise - Motorbike passes in
background)
AM That. that, yes, there should have been
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FT (inaudible)
4:50 AM (inaudible) but I mean as you are saying it’s closer to what you said, if
that was the errors on the system and there were no other obviously
was gonna sit and do REMS in and REMS out. And clearly and, and
everything else, erm on a daily basis was found on Giro Bank, National
Savings and, and, and (inaudible)
“FT -—Hm, hm.
3:10 AM Tells me it’s the only area, error. Apart from actually physically
counting the moncy. [ mean your bigger errors are either REMS and
physically counting the money. your cash, those account for the big
things. I mean anything else have tend to be limited in extent and
amount.
FT So what you're saying is the 380 quid, if you were surplus to that
amount in your account you, you would be showing it?
AM No, I would have count, say 300 from that in an overage envelope,
PT Yeah.
AM And teft the 80, well round about, it was just (inaudible)
FT Right, so the 360
AM Yes.
FT Would be used to make good count shortages?
AM Yes. Either existing or subsequent.
FT And this has been going on for. for several months?
5:50 AM Yeah, since the, the (inaudible) was changed, (inaudible) procedure was
changed.
FT Which was approximately when, can you remind me when that was?
sw You said you had the record somewhere, didn't you?
6:00 AM Thave...erm,
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sw It was after (inaudible).
AM Coming towards the end of last year (inaudible) erm
6:10 FT So we're talking this, this year. January through to July - seven months?
AM Yes, although I wouldn't like to say when it was and when it...it was
the last time...it was around that period but there was so much
confusion about those Pension Allowance Support so the, the system
was just changed, you know, todo-one-—————-
FT Yeah.
AM Thing.
FT So throughout the last seven months the accounts you have been
producing have been inaccurate in so much as you haven’t been making
a true declaration of the true state of the account?
AM Well in so much as they reflect what was done...in the actual kinds of
procedures to generate those things, yes.
Fr But what we're identifying is that in fact, well not all of the figures on
your cash account are correct, in fact this week
AM No.
FT The cash account is not correct.
AM The cash account, no.
FT Because firstly the cash that you declared last night, which should be
altered was incorrect,
AM Am, hm.
FT Then errors have been identified in the Pension Allowances so last
night's
AM Yeah - no it’s
FT Account - as my colleagues at Glasgow say, was a load of mince.
7:10 AM Well it’s certainly not what it should have been, hm.
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FT Ts certainly wasn't what it should have been, no. Which is verified
when the auditors came in this moming,
AM Hm.
7:20 FT And they checked exactly what you had checked yesterday,
AM Yeah.
FT And it was wrong.
as AM Hm, hin. —
FT Now... having said that the money was actually here this morning when
they actually
AM Yeah.
FT Physically came in, physically checked the cash, there was the cash in
the...draw.
AM Yeah.
FT Now we also recovered from the dustbin this morning the - to try and
assist the auditors - there's actually a listing that somebody had
prepared. [’m now showing you a listing which has been stuck together
with sellotape because it had been destroyed,
AM Hm, im.
Fr Can you tell me whose handwriting that is?
AM Erm. the big...the first three entries was mine and all the subsequent
entries were someone else.
Fr So the entries for the cash are also somebody else's?
AM That's mine, that’s mine, that’s mine, but everything below the first
figures under these subsequent colunmns are someone else's.
eT Okay, so
AM I don’t, without knowing what day it was I don’t know who.
FT Right. So that, so that (inaudible)
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8:20 AM 1 put the front safe money on...it’s just taken from the front safe tally.
FT Yeah. Okay, so when we compare that with what the auditors found,
erm I've got another sheet here which has been prepared, prepared by
Suzanne. On the left hand column is what the auditors actually found,
sw That's right.
FT And the right hand column shows what you actually declared last night
fromryourcastrdeclaration
AM Hm, hm.
FT Which is the print out from the computer. Now the auditors found in
£20 notes. 41,340. You declared 40.500. Your member of staff had
written down 41,160. So that’s a £660 variation there
AM Hm, hm.
FT Between what your staff member had written down,
AM Yeah, I know.
FT And what you've actually shown. The auditors found in £10 notes
13.860. your member of staff had written 13,760, which is what you've
actually shown. Your member of staff had written 6.510 of fivers, so
have you deciared but your (inaudibie) 6,520. Now for some reason
£660 has been altered on the value of the £20 notes.
AM Yeah, to, to. to
FT By yourself
AM Tog geta
FT When you'd put the cash declaration in, over above what whoever
compiled this listing, one of your members of staff - so why did you
have to alter it for £660? Because all of the £660 they were looking a
the £380 that we found in the pensions - it’s slightly more but it’s nota
significant
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AM Hm, hm.
10:00 FT Difference from £989 extra that the auditors found. so I would put it to
you Mr McLaughlin,
AM Yeah.
FT That last night you were altering the figures because you knew that
there wasn't
AM That it was going to be —
FT A surplus in your account and vou were adjusting it down to show a
AM Reasonable
FT An acceptable balance - is that correct?
AM Right. Reasonable er balance?
FT Yeah, that’s what happened, yeah? Yeah?
AM That’s right.
FT So that's right, so you deliberately altered the five, the value of the £20
notes
AM Hm.
FT By 660, the error in the Pension Allowances for the £300 and odd, and
so you knew there was an error in the account. And that money that
was generated was in the safe
AM Yeah it was.
FT And that was gonna be used to make sure shortages in the future. Yeah?
AM Auditors say that - but I did not know that (inaudible) figure but as you
said I mean...how may I say. to correct, to get that balance figure that’s
what would have had to be done. And erm
FT And that’s what you did?
AM Yeah.
11:00 FT So last night's accounts....for week 18 week ending the 25" of July you
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showed a shortage in that account of £13.32 which was not the correct
figure... because you have deliberately reduce the value of the cash on
hand and you were aware of discrepancies in the Pension Allowances
11:20 which created a surplus of approximately £1000.
AM Hm.
FT Is that correct?
AR Pm not certain if erm
11:30 FT Well it’s this on the (inaudible)
AM Lf you was correct, yeah. I mean that
FT You, so you were aware that there was a discrepancy in your account
last night?
AM But I didn’t know how much. [ know
FT You didn’t know how?
AM No.
FT Well you've you made - had you made adjustments to the accounting
figures last night, the cash on hand figures?
AM Fig - cash was declared twice.
FT It was deciared twice
AM Yeah.
FT Which I can demonstrate from the event log. it was declared twice and
the adjustment was approximately £660.
AM Is it, right.
FT Okay? And both of the occasions if you look at the event log for the
25" - (inaudible) paper here - we look at the event Jog for the 25"... the
cash was declared, originally at 64,783.68. declared by yourself at
12:30 13:58. You re-declared your cash, reducing it by £660 and re-declared
it 34 minutes later at 14:32 when you declared £64.123.68.
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AM Yeah.
FT Which was the figure we just carried in your cash account. So why did
you adjust it by £660?
AM (Pause) Obviously to make the cash account show a reasonable balance.
If that was he amount over that must have been the adjustment. Erm...
FT Well there are the figures from your member of staff.
AM Yeah, - a
FT Are you disputing the figures? You know, the auditor didn't produced
that it was saved. it was in the dustbin, it was figures from one of the
members of staff, as you say, who produced that, yet those figures had
not been included in the cash declared - some have, some have been
declared exactly as shown,
AM {t's only,
FT it’s only the £20 which haven’t been so, and that figures, the adjustment
figure fits in with the two cash declaration which were made and which
are witnessed or evidenced on the event log. (Pause) So what I'm
saying is last night's cash account is in fact a false account. Because
you're, you're not deciaring accurateiy. the information which the
system
AM Nor the cash erm it’s not declared accurately there, clearly. (Pause)
FT Yeah. And this is happening most weeks.
AM ‘That pattern would have been ongoing. Not to that extent but...now [
wouldn’t, er wasn’t that aware of that figure at that extent, that is not,
you know I did not, wasn't completely aware of that erm figure. but i
mean it wouldn’t et that thats’ nor - even if there is an overage wrong
14:40 but it’s just not usually of that magnitude. The magnitude which should
have been. And L wasn’t completely aware of that yesterday, no.
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(Pause) Hm.
14:50 FT So what we're saying is in general there would be a lesser amount -
£500 or less, is that appro, round about?
AM Much less, yes. J mean
FT Well, well we've got further things to show you Mr McLaughlin,
AM Right.
OO FT Which, which suggests that there should have been surpluses of a —
similar level that were recorded on other weeks from the checks that
Suzanne has done and the Paid Order Unit Lisa Ally have demonstrates
surpluses generated in the value of day Pension Allowances,
AM Hm.
FT Now it hasn’t always been that level but has been fluctuating but over
the last number of weeks it’s been - well Suzanne prepared a schedule
and she can demonstrate exactly what the level has been.
sw Emm in this, the schedule, we have the weeks first of all for Lisa Ally.
In this, the schedule, we have the weeks first of all for Lisa Ally.
AM Hm, hm.
sw Which was the five weeks that ] mentioned. And there had been odd
weeks when there is a £169 was over-claimed but there is one particular
week, week 45, 31" of January where there was an over-claim of £983.
Now for that particular week the office account was just showing
£123.00 short.
AM Hm.
sw And then there's - so that was the five weeks for Lisa Ally. And that
generated about £2,500 of an over-claim for the five weeks that Lisa
Ally checked. And then [ started checking
AM Hmm.
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15:30 SW And as J say it was after the Audit Team had been in and left and again
what's happening every week and the first week was £731.00 of an
over-claim - now it's quite significant
AM Hm.
sw Money, and your account was only showing £30.7...£13 and 79 pence
over. Now that week 11, the 6 of June. And then I checked week 12,
13 -week-t4-week-I5 which brought us to the 4" of July. And
whenever [ take the balance results and analyse to what you've actually
cla - the P&As that have been claimed and the Pension Allowances that
have been received erm you're always over.
AM Right.
sw With your claims, your over-claims and it’s now amounting to, if we
include today, you’re coming up to between £3,500 and £4,000. Now.
that money
AM Hm.
sw Has to be somewhere.
AM Hm. (Pause)
Sw There's a definite pattern. (Pause) Have you anything to iell me?
17:50 AM Er....1 (inaudible) aware of that, no. (Pause)
FT But you were aware ol discrepancies in the PRAs
AM Yeah.
FT That were being corrected?
AM But erm...1 thought they were marginal, you know. ..small scale
discrepancies, I didn’t....wasn’t aware of that pattern
18:20 FT Individually they were (inaudible)
AM Was. was (inaudible) left (inaudible) teft.
FT {ndividually they were quite small.
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AM But together.
FT But cumulatively they’re not.
18:30 AM No.
FT So when were you actually doing these (inaudible)
AM (inaudible)
FT How were you actually doing it?
AM Doing? Doing what?
FT Introducing the additional, the bogus figures, the, the sort of ghost
figures, how were you actually doing that?
AM On cash?
FT No, on the pensions, (Pause)
AM Again, I mean, it’s...there is a problem with those cut-offs and when
they’re put in and not put in er...hm, but it’s almost as though erm...to
permit a pattern to go on like that when you know the result would be to
over-state the payments. I mean that’s. you know, the clearest way I
could describe it, you know. [ mean, and you're aware that this is what
the pattern is and what it will lead to but not as aware (inaudible) might
not as aware of ev - these amounts and what they represent and ail the
rest of it, and that’s not the case. you know. That's just not the case.
FT Well let's look, iet, let's
AM Hm.
FT Stick. stick to this week, which is in current memory span, The £206.60
yesterday, That was put in by yourself last thing in the afternoon, why?
(Pause)
20:40 AM Well. { don’t know, i mean, sometimes you believe there to be a foil
extra, sometimes you believe not to be put in correctly, erm, other
times... it’s possibly to think well that helps the, the accounts. [ mean
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that’s all
FT So that was yesterday, yesterday (inaudible)
AM Yeah.
FT Yesterday it was
AM I mean, presumably,
FT £206.60 was (inaudible) the account
er.) ee If it’s not related to any group in or out, any other change, any other
discrepancy or whatever, you know, you can see well erm that can be,
could be done to help the account.
FT Which is what the £206.60 was yesterday?
AM So it appears in,
FT Yeah, okay, can
AM That one in that is
FT Could you just answer the question? The £206.60 yesterday which was
done last thing in the afternoon, and that was done deliberately to help
the account?
AM No, I can’t recall if that is my thinking or that’s my actions at all on that.
Erm,
PT Well, let, let. let’s have a look at what we've
AM You know. [ know
FT We've got, we've got the fo. we've got the, the print outs, we've got the
transaction log we go the Pension Allowance, foils themselves, all in
hand, and there’s £206.60 was put in by yourself....into the Group 7s at
13:22. allowing for the hour 14:22, so that was 20 minutes to three
yesterday afternoon. We've clearly demonstrated there're 17 claimed,
21:50 there’re 17 there and then suddenly an 18" one appears which, which
appears nowhere other than to be included in the grand total shown on
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22:00 the weekly summary form: There’s no Teason why you would have put
it in. There’s no evidence to show on the add-listing we've got - the
add-listing, the check list from the office, we’ve got that here as well to
show that on the 25" everything was checked, everything was great, no
problems. Erm...except that } can’t find the list...
sw (inaudible)
FT Yeah that’s (inaudible) that*sthe-add-tistand then on the 25". there we
are, the 25" there was no foil of that value altered in any shape or form
on that add-list. So I’m putting it to you and I think in reality that was
put in there to help the account, (Pause)
AM That’s presumably how it looks to others.
FT Well how, te, te, tell me how else to look at it?
AM Well, well... mean,
FT There’s, there's the list
AM My mind isn't completely clear at all (inaudible)
FT There’s the list
AM I certainly won't be saying erm
eT There’s the iist.
AM You know what i’m
FT There's the list that you checked,
AM Actually said there.
23:10 FT There’s the list that you checked; there’s the transaction log to show
how many £206.60 were put through the account; there's the list which
you wrapped around your foils and you've seen a P23 er 23 double 1
form which shows that not 17 at the value of £206.60 being claimed but
18 have been claimed on that particular sheet. That shows 18, that
shows 17, your checking shows 17 and it appears after the office has
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closed. There’s no way it would have been a bogus customer coming
in. (Pause) And yeah, fair enough the money’s there, the money was
there this morning, the auditors fund it, it’s not as though the money’s
disappeared. The money was there when the order s came in. This
£900 and odd, nearly £1000 was there when the auditors came in this
moming. But as, as I'm saying I think that one and others during the
week which again we can demonstrate in a similar pattern and we can ~
demonstrate going back a number of weeks have been put in there to
help the account. You're not declaring true and accurate records, Your
accounts are not correct, so we have no idea as to what weeks you were
short, what weeks you were over, there's no... what week we have a
fade out to show you that there be a surplus and you were short
Hm, hm.
That's fine, yeah, we've got that, but you’ve already told me that that
isn’t correct, those figures are not right. And I think that what’s been
happening is you've been helping the account most weeks because of
counter errors, theres been shortages, as Sub-Postmaster
Overpayments,
Overpayments, yeah, yeah,
(inaudible)
There's a raft of things. where you get staff - you've got a very busy
office, 200 and odd thousand pounds worth of pensions a week, that’s a
lot of dockets, that’s a lot of money trans, passing across your counter.
Staff are careless, I know, it’s easy. you know, theyre talking, they’re
chatting to the local people, give ‘em an extra £10 by mistake, and extra
£20 - I can understand that but unfortunately, as we all know,
Yeah.
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FT The buck stops with you.
AM Yes, it’s neither here nor there.
FT At the end of the week,
AM Yeah.
FT If you're 50 quid short, that comes out of your salary or your
remuneration - that comes out your back pocket. If you're 500 quid
~~ short-exactiy the'same thing, it comes out your back pocket. And what
Tthink’s happened here and I think you, you've pretty much told us that,
that you've been helping the account to reduce the pressure on yourself
to have to make it good from your personal funds. (Pause)
AM Well I never articulated those thoughts or those words in (inaudible) at
all. I mean,
FT Weil what you tell me
AM Well I, actually
FT You tell me in your, you tell me in your words
AM T mean,
FT What's (inaudible)
AM T understand what you're saying er (inaudibie)
FT Well you tell me in your words.
AM But you know... this (inaudible) myself have clearly gone into this patter
of procedure of accounting which has led to this and that, you know,
that certainly has what has happened. But I...would never have in a
calculated way conceived that...outcome as a result of some strategy or
26:20 something like that, that’s not the case. It’s just not the case, you know.
FT Okay, but
AM But I not deny that that outcome is as you've described, that is the :
outcome.
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26:30 FT So you haven't been as diligent as you perhaps should have been in your
checking procedures or if an error has arisen you haven't been
sufficiently diligent to dig and say well ‘where’s that error?’.
AM Hm.
FT Looking for it and £500 I’ve got surplus this week, great that’s gonna
relieve the pressure if the girls have made a mistake next week. And I
can used that £500 - [’m not, I’m not taking the money vut vf the office,
AM That,
FT I'm not having a high life on it, but it’s making good the shortages that
are accumulating because of staff negligence or error.
AM Hm, well that’s a...an indictment of a pattern of procedure.
FT T don't quite understand your reply, so...
sw (inaudible)
FT Erm, that, that's what it has led to, that...if all those things combined an
act and the outcome result, as it has resulted or whatever, the outcome
will be what you see in the accounts (inaudible). And obviously
my...role should have been to stop that pattern it got anything like the
position which has resuited. Erm cause there are ways of double
checking, they are ways of reconciling, there are ways of, you know,
having those procedures and it work. But al a certain point those
procedures have, because of my oversight of them have not gone the
way it should have continued to go in. That's as clear as, this point in
time, as could articulate that.
sw So can I just establish first the P2311, this week, were you aware that
28:30 this amount would not be the same amount as the add-list?
FT No, I, wasn't. There was no figure which I was operating toward or
28:40 trying to get, no. I did not you have or get this figure. no, that’s not the
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case,
Sw You weren’t aware that this was going to, that this summary of the
P2311 total would not be the same as the add-list? I'm just
AM Erm, no,
sw Asking to clarify (inaudible)
la AM Tam aware of, I am aware that those things are not physically the same,
‘ yes, But what I"m saying it is. I don’t know what the individual foils
contribute towards, I don’t, you know, no, that’s, that’s not the case. I
knew that if there were several foils out whatever, it would lead to
some...kind of
sw Right.
AM Erm, overpayment statement, state.
SW So you knew then that they’re suppose, theyre suppose to go on two
different - if someone had looked at that this week that, that was going
to be different.
AM Erm....only in so far as erm...those foils which were not properly
entered and accounted for at the time erm are allowed to continue
through the whole process tiii they end on the finai add iist,
sw Hm, hm.
AM Yeah.
sw So whenever the auditor came this mornin, ig, [ just want to establish in
my own mind clearly, that this morning whenever the auditors arrived
and you knew whenever they would go to look at the pensions that you
were aware that they P2311NA
AM (inaudible)
30:10 sw Has not total
AM Tt was
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sw The same as
AM Probably
sw The add list?
AM A couple out.
sw You knew that?
AM Yes, it would be a couple out, yeah.
FT Which is, which youradt-listwasthree?~
AM Yeah.
FT Three, three, three discrepancies (inaudible)?
AM Yeah.
FT And is it, was it for this reason that you adjusted the cash after you'd
declared it for the first time yesterday?
AM (sighs) I honestly...{’m not clear about the sequence there or [ mean, no,
J wouldn’t have matched the, the two things up,
FT (inaudible)
AM I, ] wasn’t as aware of that, known (inaudible)
FT Let’s, let’s just take a back step.
AM ‘Yes.
FT You’ve been adjusting your, your cash to show a reasonable balance,
we've established that. So at what point would you actually know what
the adjustment is going to be?
AM Erm, (inaudible)
FT Talk me through the procedure.
AM Balance preview.
31:00 FT You'd do a balance preview?
AM Yeah.
FT Okay, that would show you what your balance is and what your
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discrepancy is,
AM Yeah.
FT Is that correct, yeah. And then you would then make a decision as to
how much you want to adjust that discrepancy by?
AM Yeah.
FT Okay. And that happens every week?
OO AM (sighs)...Not every week, no, I, I'm...there’s a Pattern often, but it’s not
every week, I don’t think so, no. Erm,
FT And then when you do make the necessary or make the adjustment any
surplus cash you put it in
AM Yeah.
FT An envelope
AM Keep it out, yeah.
FT And then if you have a discrepancy the following week,
AM Yeah.
FT When you do your balance preview, you're 5C quid short or say £39.
say £300 short, say you've had a really bad week,
AM Hm.
FT You'd take money out of your envelope. put it into the cash, increase
the cash by that amount and so that when your balance comes out,
you're showing your a reasonable
AM Showing that
32:00 FT Balance?
AM Yeah.
FT Or would. would that
AM The figures are close .
FT Be the (inaudible)
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AM Yeah.
FT Yeah. And we're saying that this all started about this January-
December time?
AM Was it...(sighs)...I think it only, it’s probably only a definable pattern
for this six months. Erm, erm may well have been one or two loose
things, whenever the system was searched yeah, but a, nothing that you
“cally pattern, no, before that.
FT So, so tell me this, this accounting yeah, and probably a couple of
months before that? Well eight months,
AM Well,
FT Well, April's going back three months, you've seen six, so we took, as
we said, as we said earlier on,
AM Yeah.
FT We're probably talking Jariuary,
AM Tam sure, yeah.
FT So, so January this year was probably the las{ time that you entered a
true and accurate account, io your knowledge?
AM Erm, no, they, they wouidn’t ali have been out. No, they wouldn't ali
have been out...before that time, definitely they would have been more
accurate.
FT Before January?
AM Yes.
Fr Yeah, yeah, but no what I’m saying is
33:20 AM Yeah, yeah
FT Since January. the inaccuracies, !
AM Well because it’s a pattern, you know, and...(inaudible) show i
unreasonable places and you know, that’s what’s adhered to...hmm, :
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yeah, it is a pattern, it is a....(Pause)
FT Do you realise that by submitting these accounts in an inaccurate form
you’re actually creating a false account which is a criminal offence?
AM It’s...false, technically it’s false accounting.
FT Well it’s obtaining
AM And any doubt that there is,
FT We know that it’s, it’s, it's false accounting:
AM It’s erm...
FT You're adjusting the account before you produce the one which you
submit to the Post Office, so in actual fact you are knowingly
submitting to the Post Office an account which is incorrect
AM Hm.
FT In the material particularly as it (inaudible)
AM Hm.
FT Because you know that the cash you declared on there is incorrect and
on instances you are also aware that the value of Pension Allowances
paid is also been stated incorrectly. I mean is that a fair summary of
your understanding of a false account?
AM En,
FT Or what the
AM That’s
FT True state of the accounts would be.
34:50 AM Well that wasn’t my understanding of your explanation of it, yes. Erm
(Pause) I lost the train of thought there.
FT Okay. (inaudible)
AM Erm.
FT So what we’re saying is these cash accounts, what the Post Office
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during the accounting week for your particular office, in this particular
case, you've failed. And the Post Office accepted as being a true record.
Am, hm.
Now the discrepancies in this account are that the cash figure may have
been adjusted prior to the final balance being produced,
Hm.
We've identified a number of irregularities in the value of paid Pension
Allowances which were identified this week and as you’ ve said they’ve
occurred on previous weeks as well. So two elements of the account,
one the value of Pension Allowances paid is inaccurate, and two, the
value of cash on hand, which is shown in Table 5 of your cash account,
has on occasions been inaccurate because it's either been increased or
reduced to show an accurate balance. and in fact last night’s account,
Hm.
We have there clear evidence of that that the amount of money that was
recorded by a member of your staff was adjusted prior to it being
declared in the cash account,
Hm, hm.
And the amount that you declared was...£600 and er £64,123.68 where
as in reality it was a large amount of cash which was counted by a
member of staff but it had been adjusted, it was adjusted by the value of
about £660 and we’ ve also demonstrated that the Pension Allowance
foils claimed in your account which is shown as £215,034.60 was also
in, inclu, er inflated by a value of £381.60. So in one account we have
two inaccuracies which amount to approximately £1000 over-claimed in
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your, in the account. Yet the account shows a shortage of £13.32.
(Pause) So that is a false account which is for to you to submit this to
the Post Office,
AM Hm.
FT Ts actually a criminal offence. And,
AM (inaudible), sorry.
FT No, no, it’s an; an; this-patterrras-you' ve said has been going on
regularly since perhaps January-February of the current year when...
AM. Yeah. In...when I found out that, you know, what er procedure
(inaudible) what the Post-Masters were actually doing wasn’t, because
obviously we've had (sighs) wildly variation erm cash accounts for a
period but whenever I found that what they would do would be, they
would take the money, hold it, put it in, or keep it aside as according to
what indication they were getting of where there cash account was
going. I mean that is what I in my unclear way erm it’s always been
well this is the practice that everyone's doing so it must be what you do
to establish a continuum of (inaudible) acceptable accounts,
Sw Hm, hm.
AM Now, (inaudible) perhaps you know the odd time or whatever but this is
you know, what I've allowed to happen is, is a pattern in the
developments instead of, you know, checking myself and realising that
you know, there may, that may well be done, or whatever, but it’s not
erm a good idea to you know, stand over something which cannot be
erm put forward in black and white as being accurate. I mean, it start to
off, like [ sai#, viewing it as ‘this is what people do’ and losing sight of
well that this is not you should do.
FT Well, that, that’s the reality of the situation and
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AM Hm.
FT That’s why you're finding yourself in this position today having to talk
to us.
AM Hm.
FT Because these errors,
AM Hm.
— FT Have been flagged up by Lisa Ally, by Suzanne's work and er ~*~
emphasise
AM Yeah, I mean,
FT Reinforced again this morning the auditor’s visit to your office and this
clearly is not an acceptable practice for the Post Office.
AM No.
FT You know, we, we have a er a duty to supply accurate accounts to our
auditors. which are erm certified on an annual basis and we have to
justify our actions to our shareholder, which is the Government. Is it, at
the end of the day
AM Hm.
FT We have to justify ourselves to them and if Sub-Postmaster was doing
this we wouldn't know where the accounts were. Now you're
suggesting it's other Sub-Postmaster doing it - perhaps not of this scale -
there may be a degree of put and take, but at the end of the day you are
clearly allowed, if you’ve got a surplus to withdraw it
AM Yeah.
FT [f you've got a shortage you make it good. They. they’re the niles,
40:30 they’re quite clear.
AM Yeah. And that it is, that is what we did, in a matter of
FT But, but
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AM What we intended.
FT But the trouble is what you're doing is the middle bit, by (inaudible) by
40:50 cuckolding the account, basically by fiddling the account to show an
incorrect figure.
AM Hm.
FT If you were showing the correct figures on those, we wouldn’t be sat
~Iround the tablé today talking.
AM No.
FT Because whilst Suzanne had done the reconciliation she can say well,
“well he’s up on his Pension Allowances there, that ought to show a
surplus in his account’,
AM Yes.
FT The two match up.
AM (inaudible) yeah.
FT There’s nothing wrong. It’s because you’ve
AM (inaudible)
FT Hidden it. That’s the deception, that’s the deceit, that’s the criminal
aspect of it, because you've actually hidden what you’ve doing. if it
was all out in the open we wouldn't be sat here talking.
AM Hm, hm.
PT But what you've done is in fact committed a criminal offence by the
way you've actually approached it. Now other Sub-Postmaster may be
AM Hm.
FT Doing something similar, lesser scale, a greater scale - I don’t know.
AM You don’t know.
FT We will be talking to other Sub-Posumasters as well in the future.
Because obviously that’s, that’s part and parcel of our job. But the
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bottom line is that this is wrong, it is not right. And obviously a view
has to be taken as to what happens in the next stage,
AM Hm, hm.
FT Now, I’m also conscious that we are just about to run out of tape again.
Erm so we stop the tape
sw Yeah.
FT And there’s a few more formalities anda few inore questions Suzanne
may have
AM Yeah.
sw We'll stop the tape.
FT Erm before we. we conclude. Can you just er read out the seal number
for me again, please and sign the form?
AM Term, 047810.
FT And if you could sign the form for me, please? (Pause) (inaudible) can
you do the honours again for us? (inaudible) (Pause) Okay, thanks very
much. Okay, all persons present have signed the tape seal. The time is
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Alan McLaughlin
Brookfield Post Oftice
Date of Interview 26" July 2001
‘Time commenced 16:07
Duration of interview 13. Minutes
Imerviewing Officer(s)
Suzanne Winter (Investigations Manager)
Exhibit No:
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Frederick Leslie Thorpe (Investigations
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Other, persons present Margaret McLaughlin (Friend)
Tape Person Text
counter speaking
times
FT The time is 16:07
sw Pm continuing this interview. Erm person present, will they please
reintroduce themselves to assist in voice identification.
AM Alan McLaughlin.
FT Frederick Leslie Thorpe.
MM Margaret McLaughtin.
sw I'm Suzanne Winter. Mr McLaughlin I would like to remind you that
you are still under caution. You do not have to say anything but] must
caution you that if you do not mention when questioned something that
you later rely on in court it may harm your defence. If you do say
anything it may be given in evidence. While the tapes were switched
off can you confirm we did not discuss any details of the enquiry, Mr
McLaughlin.
AM Yes.
sw [also wish to remind you of your legal rights. And produce to you CS
form 001...would you please sign, time and date. (Pause) Mr
McLaughlin has signed and date it and timed CS001 form 408. And Mr
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McLaughlin you're still happy (coughs) to remain at the interview
without a solicitor?
AM Yeah.
sw And also to have! las a friend?
AM Yes.
sw So just really to continue on then from where we were near the
conclusion of the interview and I just want to confirm some facts that
yes the accounts had been falsified by yourself? Is that right?
AM Yeah, they, they're not accurate.
sw And that you were aware whenever the auditors arrived today that the
P2311MA Summary would not be the same total as the Add List of the
Pensions?
AM Not exactly but yes I thought it would be out.
sw And the reason for this would be because of the three discrepancies that
we have highlighted in the interview today and where you had entered
an extra amount into the system?
AM Yeah.
sw Would that be right?
AM Yes.
sw And that over a period of time, mainly maybe from the start of the year,
January, erm this had been what you have been doing? On a weekly
basis? Or could have done?
AM This would have been out,
sw Or could have done?
AM A regular pattern.
sw A regular pattern. And you had been using the Pension Allowance erm
pension, the bundles, to do the discrepancy in?
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AM They would have made up any erm discrepancies, yeah.
sw And you were aware that this was a criminal offence because it was
falsifying accounts?
AM T wasn’t that - [ never thought about that or erm put it in those lems at
3:20 all. No I wasn’t - as aware of that, I weren’t as aware of that (inaudible
-noise)
— sw ‘You were aware that it was wrong to do that? (Pause)
AM (sighs) I was aware that erm what I thought was if not unaccepted but a
common practice to keep reasonable accounts erm...was in danger of
carrying a pattern which could not be understood or explained in terms
of the original motivation for it.
sw So you were, you were aware that you were falsifying your accounts?
AM (Pause) Not - I wouldn’t have set out to do that in that form or, or, or
with that intention or plan but...as it were that by allowing this kind of
pattern to go on the, the, the final accounting probably would not be
completely accurate.
sw And the reason you have been falsifying the accounts... was because of
shortages? (Pause)
AM Any overages which resulted from those cash accounts were used for
any shortages which resuited cause we had a lot or problems with staff
at a particular point, which, timing of which erm coincides with this,
this pattern. I had a lot of problems with my erm...figures in the office.
These were two staff, they were both erm dismissed.
sw And J just want to clarify with you, did you keep a record anywhere of
the discrepancies that you were making?
5:10 AM Not that I know (inaudible)
SW Okay. (inaudible)?
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FT No, I think that we’ve covered most,
sw (inaudible)
FT Most points that erm we, we need to cover at this point. Erm we will be
doing further checks. We have to submit an application to the Horizon
Data Warehouse,
AM Yeah.
FT I —To gettertain reports which we will not be on your computer curently.
Erm from them to confirm pretty much what we've discussing today,
AM Hm.
FT Erm to give us more evidence in the light of what we have on today’s
particular print outs and everything so that’s, so on what we have
though we may need to come back and talk to you erm we may not,
AM Hm.
FT It just depends very much on what the outcome of what that is and what
decisions are made by people who erm are due to review the outcome of
the interview and erm and, and today’s
AM So then what does happen from this point on?
PT Well perhaps it may be easier to discuss that off tape - not that there's
anything (inaudible)
AM No, I know, fine, I know...
FT But, but primarily there're, there’re, there are two possibilities. The
facts without any embellishment, the facts which we have here are
reported back to the Post Office and then the Post Office will take a
view as to... what to do. There’s two possible lines. One is the
6:30 criminal. [t may be deemed that this case is
FT Sufficiently serious that it’s submitted to the Director of Public
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Prosecutions with a view of taking it further. (Pause) The second track
which also will have to be considered is the discipline side, the internal
discipline aspect,
6:50 AM Am, hm.
FT Which we have no...erm well we have input into it, because obviously
we have to show the evidence that we have and the report again will be
written for the. for the Retail Network-Manager-who-would make a view
as to erm your suitability to continue being a Sub-Postmaster,
AM Right.
FT Basically. He must make a view on that,
AM Right.
FT Erm and obviously we’l! have to report to him this afternoon, let him
know what the outcome of this has been and he'll doubtless want to
come down and talk with you and
AM (inaudible)
FT And see what the situation is. So they are the two aspects that it will go
along. As I say we are in the, I suppose, the easy position. We Teport
the facts, other peopie make the decision as to, as to
AM Oh, I appreciate that.
FT What the (inaudible) is that
AM T know it is.
FT But be assured that it was done on tape, every word that you've said is
available for yourself,
AM Yeah.
7:40 FT And for anybody who’s got an interest in. in the proceedings. Erm, as
you've said nothing was (inaudible) there was no conversation out with
the tape recorder, everything was done as it should be. Erm you've had
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your chance to say what you've
AM Yeah.
8:00 FT Wanted to say. We presented you with the evidence and you've given
us explanations as to what's
AM Right.
FT Gone on. Now,
AM Can I just add something,
sw Yes, okay.
8:10 AM I'll just (inaudible) on there and I hadn’t touch upon it or realised
before. Erm part of the problem with the timing for erm trying to get
the cash account to, to balance in acceptable level erm there were two
serious ongoing staff problems in here and there was. --money not right,
going missing in that account for a Jeast a full erm range of that,
sw Hm, hm.
AM One, because of straight forward theft and the other because of massive
incompetence, massive. Erm both those cases were documented by
myself for internal disciplinary reasons and all the rest of it. Erm...but
(sighs) as a causal factor or as a reason to try and do something to
correct those accounts whatever, erm certainly it was a very difficult
period because there's nothing worse than money not being right,
obviously,
sw Am, hm.
AM And again those two things were both at the same time and it takes a
period of time to have these people no longer in the office erm you
know things corrected very, very quickly in the cash accounts after
almost the next week, next week, erm you know whatever...was being
done in the period of difficulties with them erm during that to, to make
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the cash account right, obviously at that point it shouldn’t have been any
longer necessary.
10:00 sw Him, hm.
AM Even in my own view of being necessary, I know it’s not a,
sw Hm, hm.
AM An acceptable definition but you understand from a personal point of
view, you think-that?s-neeessary- Erm so that’s all I could reflect upon
that particular period, you know, I erm stress and difficult that,
Particular period. that timing would have been erm...obviously but what
then should have happened there shouldn’t have been a permissiveness
to practice this after that point, clearly.
sw That's right.
AM That’s all [ can see upon that.
sw That's right. And if you've any more questions Les then I (inaudible)
FT No, no, I think that’s,
sw (inaudible)
FT That’s for me. thank you.
Sw And before I conclude the interview I need to give you a leaflet - it’s
CS019. It explains the tapes - and J think J gave it back to you, And
that’s just the leaflet
AM Okay, yeah.
sw It explains what actually is going to the tapes. ['m about to stop the tape
machine. One of the tapes will be sealed, will you please sign the tape
before I stop the machine. (Pause) Alan...
PT (inaudible)
11:30 sw Just listen. (Pause)
11:40 AM Okay.
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FT Okay, thanks, that’s okay, that’s no problem.
sw Erm and as Les explain we may want to speak to you again.
AM Right, okay.
Sw Okay? Enm I’m going to stop the machine and seal the tapes just
(inaudible).
FT If he can just read out the tape number, please.
AM 047811. TT
FT And if he could sign it for me as well, please. (Pause)
AM Okay. (Pause)
FT Sign it for me there, last one. ”
sw Thank you. (Pause)
FT (inaudible) thanks very much.
sw Thank you.
FT So all persons have signed the tape seal, it’s now 16:20 and Tm
stopping the tape.
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i {oa Main Summary 2s 53 foils at £355
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Allowances
HT gp 95
PRICE
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22.55
60.00
100.06
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152.89
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56.49
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WUSTIZE OF THE Peace, CLERK To. MESS. Cc
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I HIDENNEY THE Exner SCRIBED as. Thar REFERRED TO wn
I STATEMENT MADE Ano SIGNED By ME
sisueo,,I ASHLENE CASSON I
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PENSIONS AND ALLOWANCES
OFFICE RRM: Brocktielg OFFICE CODE: 1917043
ADDRESS: 213 Tennent street
C/A WEEK NO: 04
WEEK ENDING: 18/04/2001
Belfast
BTl3 366 TIME: 18/04/2001 13:54
This summary should be despatched with the casi ACCOUNT.
GROUP NUMBER oF ORDERS TOTAL AMOUNT
NO FP57/P87 — PENSToNs ALLOWANCES = ¢ P
MOD. ARMY 1 ° 0.00
OD. Ind Injy 2 ° 0.00 —
MOD. AIR 3 () 0.00 °°
4 fe} 0.00
Child/one Parenc 5 133 3676.15 —-
War Pension 6 1-622. 18
Dis Living 223 7 180“ 30695.12
Family Credit a ° 0.00
9 oO 0.00
Pension/incsupp 20 ° 0.00
Income Support a. 365 25281.42 —
Ind Inj/Deeth Ben 12 40 1569.85 _— n
Ret Pension/aia 13 467 33392564 22145 -64
Sickness 2en/a22 14 163.—
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TOTAL Gzp 05 - ¢
Gtp 06 ~ w
Szp 06 ~
TOTAL Erp o¢ -
Srp 07 - p
Srp 07 ~ 5D
Grp 07 - p
Srp 07 - 5
TOTAL Grp 07 - 5
MeGaaanaenTee TT Ten
TOTAL Allowances
al- 2
AR/OL 4
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AA/OL
AR/OL 24293. 00, ~
BA/OI S359 4924.05
AA/OL 7657.02 ‘a
AR/OL
AR/OL
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38/01 2
TOTAL Grp ia - 15774, 9g
ttttesteseetesecys ‘
TOTAL Pensions 1025 WET 4
= S40). 84
P&A Milk AB/O ll 0.00
23702 2h
2R/01
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Allowances
MI gp 05 F
PRIce VOLUME
15,0000 547
15,50 18
17.55 10
25.85 8
22.0 1
00 2
36,20 om]
38:25 1
6, i
61.00 2
Total MT yp 0555
HE gp 06
PRICE — VOLUNE
35.94 1
55.92
Total HI gp 06
HI gp 07
VOLUME
2
1
3
1
1
2
1
2
2
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& 87.01 87.007"
87,32 a A
38.83 BBY,
51.07 1.07
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. 58:00 38.097
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102.10 102,107"
404.20 104-287
110.50
1465
s14078
117.20
123,53
128.20
143,30,
148.90
150.10
174262
188.05
194.91
Total NI gp 1
NI gp 12
PRICE VOLUME
21.86
22.58
45.16
NI gp 12
PRICE VOLUME VALUE,
37.00 4.08,
40.40 A
175 250.507
4 43.40 6. 87
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51.22 1%
53.55 i
55.30 118.907
62.80 2 6
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24232 i 4327
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76.05 1 76.057
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73.17 1 73.1?
73.33 1 aw.
73.73 1 BI,
80.18 2 a
81.70 } a7 '
2169 2 LG I
81.93 1 i. t
84.60 i 84.60%
85.73 1 i237,
86.04 1 8.007
87.15 1 rat
88137 1 Ze
88.40 i ae
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PRA Milk (NI)
PRICE
Total PéA silk (NI)
TOTALS:
Allowances
Grp 05 - ¢ 5 5
Grp 06 - Wy 2 31.86
Srp 07 - D 15 556/30
Sub’ Totals 7 Hiatt ,
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SUANARY TOTAL: 270 5
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JUSTICE OF THE PEACE/ CLERK TO. MAGS. court,
1
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; SFFICE CODE: 1817945
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WEEX ENDING; 25/04/2001
TIME: 25/04/2001 13:52
PP despatched with che CASH Accor,
GRoup NUMBER F ORDERS TOTAL AMOUNT
NO Pest /es). PENSIons ALLOWANCES £ P
MOD. ARay 1 ° 0.00
ind Injy 2 ° 0.00
MOB. ATR 3 ° 0.00
4 ° 0.00
Child/one Parene 5 UTE Iesecs, 13622. is/
War Pension 6 12 1060.16, —
Dis Living ary 7 AED rerseo 3638-10 /
Family credit 8
D.o.8. 9 ° oe
Pe0s.on/tacsupp 10 ° 0.00 y
Income Suppore 1. 182 3Gq> S5500—45 $S7F9-41 4
ind Inj/Death sen, . 12 52, — 1693.82, —
Ret Pérsion/nay 13 coaean TD ves 9066-27 Sf
Sickness Ben/aiy 14 262, 24926
RESERVED 15 ~— 2.00
FoR 16 o 2.00
Furor 17 ( - 0.00
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~ 13:47 2570472002
TOTAL Grp 06 - w
Gzp 07 701
-D
Gzp 07 - D BAO
Gzp 07 ~ D 701
Szp 07 ~ A/O2
Grp 07 - D 01
Gzp 07 - D 401
Grp 07 - D /01
Grp 07 ~ D BR/OL
TOTAL Gzp 07 - p
Group ivjal of
sctssssaestssesens u3 $04 354
TOTAL Allowances 3+ z 3 joings oye zed for d
AR/OL i mou
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31.34 ciswle
TOTAL Grp 11 ~ 5
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Srp 12
Grp i2
Grp 12
Grp 12
Grp 12
TOTAL Grp 13
Grp 14-7 aR/ol
Srp ig-r AA/OL
Srp 14-1 aR/OL
Grp 14 - RA/O1
Grp 14 - AR/OL
Grp 14-7 BA/OL
Grp lq BR/OL
Grp lg -7 BR/OL
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TOTAL Pénsions
PLA Milk
PEA Milk
PEA Milk
PGR Mik
PER Milk
PEA Milk
Pam Milk
PAR Milk
TOTAL PéA Midi
TOTAL Milk Tokens PéA 169 0.00
SUMMARY TOTAL ' But y 323028 3p
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13:44 25/04/2001 CAP:05. BPrOL SU AA
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Allowances
NE gp 05
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Ni gp 08
oem es Ques ene
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Peace VOLUME:
FR ONO ee ets
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HT ap 12
PRICE VOLUME VALUE
11.29 67.74
2175 1 2173
21.86 4 21.86
22.58 ir 248.38
25.28 t 25.28
33.87 8 270.96
45.16 4 180. 64
82.74 3 203.22
79.03 1 79.03
jotal WI gp 12 36 1118.86
NI gp 13
oP perce vowune ALU
18,22 1 18,28
28.96 1 28,96 6 3 4
36.02 i 36.02
37.00 1 37.00
7. 475 6 220,00
43.40 1 43.49 * -1128-
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168.80
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Total Dea eilk (I) 2 0.00
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Grp 06 - S 5
Grp.07 - 3 sab 1g oF 20968- F)
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Grp te - 1 36
Grp 13 - R 3
Grp 14 ~ 1 4 6478.87
Sub' Total 233 «19349. 16
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NI gp 07
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PRICE VOLUME VALUE
149.40 1 143,40
HL gp 06 1 149.40
PRICE VOLUME VALUE
7.70 1 52.70
115.40 i 115.40
116.3016" 39
203.30 1 203.30
295.25 1 295.25
369.80 1 369,80
PRICE VOLUME VALUE
434 1 4.34
6.66 1 6.56,
12.42 e 24.04
12,92 1 12.92
15.30 1 15.30
15.68 1 15.58
16.97 1 16.97
16.98 1 16.98
17.55 1 12.55
{8.51 1 18.51
18.85 2 32.70
20,17 1 20.17
20.65 1 20,65
21.55 1 21.55
22.40 1 22,40
85.75 i 25.75
26.95 1 2%.
28.70 1 28.70
23.50 1 23.
60 1 29,60
23.75 1 23.75
29,90 1 29.90
30:08 1 30.08
31.55 i 91639
32.46 1 e465
REN 3 100.86
34.48 I t 34.48
35.09 1 35.09
35.70 e 71640
36.86 1 6.86
36.87 1 36.87
4.53 1 38:53
40. 1 40.18
46.80 1 46.80
48.18 2 96,36
43.98 1 49.8
52.47 1 $2.47
52048 1 52.48
53:34 t 53.34
53.80 1 53540
54.65 1 54.65,
34.76 1 34.76
3751 2 115.02
59.75 1 59.75
60. 1 60.16
60.23 Bi
60.40 1 60.40
$0.43 1 60.43
60.59 : 60.39
0 BL a ceri caitnee: 60-61
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32-98 j Bada
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Wt yp 4 19S 1560-3
PRICE — VOLUKE value
26.74 t 214
51.45 1 51.45
55.30 0 0.00
56.80 7 337.60
63.75 1 63.25
74.40 1 7440
7710 i
79.05 4
73:90 1
80.43 i
84.40 6
85.5 i
85.48 1
34.36 f
34.60 1
96.74 1
100,04 1
104.81 1
105.06 1
105.45 1
136.9 1
133.17 4
150-73 1
153.84 1
158.55 1
159.03 4
162046 i
Total HI gp 14 43 4031.40
PA wilk (NID .
PRICE’ VOLUNE
36 F
Total P&@ nik WD 36 :
TOTALS: VOLUN vatuE I
Allowances i x I
Grp 0S - ¢ 435 seeDACY-7E
Grp 06 - ¥ 1 143.40 > j
tho? =P 4& HEB i
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Pensions it I 150 a Liat s i
rp lt = e 5 c!
Grp 13 - k VyS teH5612560 -S5
eh it 43°" 4031.40
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Milk Tokens PEA = Beg” FEN EC. g2
PRA NELK § 0.00
Sub Total: Ey) 0.00
SURNARY TOTAL: BEL 307 I
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POST OFFICE INVESTIGATION DEPARTMENT —
EXHIBIT No. os
REGINA V. a
SIGNED. DATE .
macs. COURT!
JUSTICE OF THE PEACE! CLERK TO.
: fae Tens’ Prin Atisuances I
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Number of Orders * Total Amount:
" FPS7/ECS7 Pensions —_ Allowances £ pp
© Ié.0.0findustrial upry Benefits 2
bd RAF Abotments 3
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] Way Poon 6 > 1 FE) b12IS4p
H IG, itty Living Allowance 73 > <> Qe para : tata. Hes
‘amily Credit ~ 8 LIV TF SKE OTA Fels Y
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© [FPS7/EC57 Prescription Refund I 9k I : “e
Fension / inc. suppt with attdnt. alice! 1 als by alalolah ts I JS
— HSS) es SSP ante te
(A) I ind. inj disablement or death benetitI 12]: 3S Ha HIG]
Q Retirement pension/aliowances I 43'f5, ‘ ei a i 3 a f Ble 1s. VY
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NV ordlus O 65:30 each cicdmed, 16 crolers
8 6530 cach tioned 65.26 dyscu lous)
f Gout h ores uu 23-47 cUimed dub aot /
‘a recived): / 33d chsodigutal +
Goi I cclloe vate 4286S Uwmed as 22 +S
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45-65 discuioutel %/
Gpi3 a ordas OB 42-40 eath Utd put Ag
recaiveel - J V9 80 cisatloutel y
Gpid oder CUKL 43-90 cuimed as ae 60
I Y 3p cicw
Gow A Oder LUIUL 139.60 coimeg bub nobrecd
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TOTAL Grp 12 - Z 35:
Sep 33
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Grp 13
Srp 13
Grp 13
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HI gp 05
PRICE VOLUME
40.35 1
15.50 5
17.55 i
25,85 2
2) 2
40.70 1
46.55 1
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NI gp 06
PRICE VOLUME VALUE
23.96 1
NE gp 06
30015
Total Np 0? 2 BAA LOS
a is Se
PRICE
2.50
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Total NI gp 11 106 7440.06
HI gp 12
PRICE — YOLUKE VALUE
33.87 2 67, is
4 q
43
1
1
2
1
1
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99.30 6 935.40 -1143-
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276
100.13
106.20
106.
123.69
127.29
27,50
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46.80
165.00
55.25
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168.80 2 i
Total HE gp 14 58 ;
PEA wide (LD
PRICE yOLUKE VALUE I
0,00
Total RMA eilk (HD I
!
TOTALS: vOLUKE
Allowances I
Srp 05 - ¢ H
Grp 06 -¥
frp 07 - D
Sub Total: 1
Pensions
rf 7 !
inp 13-8 IB igD HSSHII LG -4L
Grp 14 - I 88 i
Sub Total: e
Milk Tokens PAA = 33y
PRA ilk fi 0.00
Sub Total: i? 0.00
SURMARY TOTAL: 2 ar88K6 r
e .
wt END OF REDORT sex 27801 !
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- 650
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13:48 62/05/2001
P and @ = Client Copy
Allowances
AT gp 05 = ar
letas ha gp Oo
Pacey '
vue
23.96 BB
Be
iota
KI ap 07
RE
i
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3
3
te
:
32.46
4a 8h Be
Oe Sea
55.70
33ie
32 a, 42.00
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>
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HI op 13
=
a
2
of
2
i
4
10
2
1
i
2
1
2
1
1
2
1
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Gev3 i
1 oper i
Uys 51 t
Chuaewee) 7250 1
> 5 i
pub oo FP i
1
$
Bree meron eminem teen aod
te re ate ee ees
total
NL go 14
46.80 1
43.31 @
36.80 4
65.69 1
74 Ad t
77.10 i
. 73.05 3
3 3g I 40,50 i
, aed
AMCLO000014
AMCLO0000014
123.51
131,46
141.00
Total AI gp 13
Mi ap 4
OWN ty Me 1
TER - fonisg 4
101.67 1
112.67. 2
118,65 2
121.48 f
1
1
1
$a aa-24 i
PRICE vOLUNE WaLue
edb malic ind)
Sei ozik (Hib
3: voLuaE VALUE
ances
Gro 05 - ¢ 4 1079.00
434-055
b58e-2e
i
Atak Toxens ? & A
Pad mlx
Sub Total:
SUARART TOVHL: ; SIF
49 4s
#08 EAD GF REBORT tae HUE
2
33%
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1017043
SU: AA
:
Brookfield
14:02 30/04/2001
P and A - Client Copy
Allowances
NI gp°0S,
a
T
186.20
Tatai NI gp 05
HI gp 98
ap perce
169.25
428.95
Total MI gp 06
NI gp 07
33.95
300.15
Total HI gp 07
AE gp li
ronirera weer ro rere rere rem muse rar fore oro rarer
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LOU orOUS S80
Gaus Fe
eo Ucsattha. 82
ver cfclars 49-83
6 gl Ss a “
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258
41 3S
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val
2 26.54
2 44.56
5 56.56
z 67360
3t 1147500
() 0.
2 64
2
65
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3
She
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H 1833
230
134.54 1H.34
142, 3 ‘i
se ary 659
33) 161/04 f
an a "1. 1154-
4 Total NT gD 13 264 saenoen
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AMCLO0000014
7 THES
1a. e+ — 24.60
143,83 2 287.66
151.58 2 rn BAG,
t 164.04. Ch. BLO
Total
NI gp 14
il
103,16
105,20 —
105.45
111.87
113.60
124,40
135.85
139.50
140,16
154.20
168.80
Total HI gp 14
PGA ailk (Ni)
PRICE VOLUME VALUE
68 0.00
Total F&A @ilk (HI) 0.00
TOTALS; VOLUME VALUE
Allowances
Grp 05 - 297 9470.25
Grp 06 - W 3 $27.15,
! Grp 07 - D 7 847.55
« ‘Sub Total: 307 10544.95
Fenster u-1 e262 20514. 10 bv.
rp Ud - > 5 ne
Grp 13 Bau gad HpBHELAOISON- US;
trp. 4-1 5B _54i6.
nt Totals ce 135 ae
Nilk Tokens 104 4 32°
ea Kilk Che he
Sub Total: 68 0.00
SUMKARY TOTAL: AST Mobs
B4C17-08
sxe END OF REDURD ine
336
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PENSIONS AND ALLOWANCES
1 Brookfield OFFICE CODE: 1817043
213 Tennent street
C/A WEEK NO: 07
WEEK ENDING: 09/05/2001
Belfast
BT13 366 PIME: 09/05/2001 13:44
This summary should be despatched with the CASH ACCOUNT. .
GROUP NUMSER OF ORDERS TOTAL AMOUNT
NO FP57/2S7 PENSIONS ALLOWANCES og P
MOD. ARI 1 0 2.90
MOD.Ind Injy 2 i) 0.00
NOD.AIR 3 ° 0.00
4 oF 0.000
Child/one Parent 5 204+° _~ 6804.00
War Pension 6 vw _ 867.36
L .
Dis Living All 7 186 ~ 33576.11
Family credit 8 ° 0.00
D.0.. 9 0 0.00
Pans ion/tnesupe 10 ° 0.00
Income Support i 557. 42236731 -
Ind Inj/Death Ben 12 266 6 5
Ret Pensien/all 13 680 -— 48084.25 ~~
Sickness Ben/All 14 229. 22109.44 *
SERVED 15 0 0.00 —
FOR 16 ° 0.00
ruruas 17 ° 0.00
use 1e 0 9.90
TOTALS: 0 1826
Milk Token 2
SIGNATURE. {
re END
FULLY CHECKED
POLLS.
PAID ORDER UNIT
ASHLENE CASSON I — I
2 SAYS
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13:38 09/05/2001
4
8
MAMMA
Grp 05 ~
rors cin! pd
Grp 06 ~ Ww
Grp 06 - Ww
Gzp 06 - W
Srp 06 - w
Grp 06 - w
TOTAL Grp 06 -
Grp 07 =
Grp a7 -
07 -
voUDVGg
07 ~
a7 -
TOTAL Grp 7 -
ae
<
AR/O1
AR/OL
AR/OL
AR/OL
AR/OL
AR/OL
AR/OL
AR/OL
RA/OL
D
Sebidtenteactasces
TOTAL Allowances
Sep lied
Grp li ~
Grp li -T
Szp ll - T
Grp il - 7
Grp it - i
Grp ll -
T
Grp 12 - i
Grp 12-7
TOTAL Grp 12 -
Grp 13 oR
Grp 13-2
Grp 13-8
Grp 13 -R
Gp 12-R
Grp 13 -R
Grp 13-2
TOTRL Grp 23 -
ebtbeeeeecenes
TOTAL Pensions
PER Milk
PEA Milk
RASOL
AA/OL
BR/O1
RA/O1
AR/OL
BA/OL
AR/CL
AR/01
AR/OL
AR/O1
BR/OL
AR/OL
AR/OL
AR/OL
AR/O1
AR/OL
AR/OL
AA/OL
AR/OL
ante
BA/OL
AA/OL
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Ma
55 3975.35
2 2498.14 5,
138 -F aoazcs6- I>
Be 3123.88
109 8503.62
8482.42
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Be
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Ba 13023,18
630 48084.25
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2
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TOTAL Milk Tokens Pca
sUMERY TOTAL
eine
FAD 1817043
and Allowances -
058, yy”
vex END OF REPORT ++e
vou VALUE
3 0.00
38 9.90
7 0.900
30 9.00
18 9.00
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:
17550
103,86
83
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234149
Total =H gp 11159
NI gp 13
PRICE VOLUME
22
Dorel ere
i
i
1
i
:
arene
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- 668
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246
2
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80
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PRICE VOLUME
30
TOTALS: VOLUME
Rilowances
Grp 05 %
B
- Sab’ Total: 165
ciesats 41 67-
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past OFFICE, INVESTIGATION DEPARTMENT
REGINA V. . EXHIBIT No. .
DATE
SIGNED.
gusTice OF THE PEACE CLERK TO.
IDENTIFYING MARK
Vile ,
wc. ACT 1980.S.102- C.J. Act 1967.5.9. m.c. Rules 1981.R.70
ert DESCRIBED AS THAT REFERREO TO IN
LIOENTIFY THE EXHI
STATEMENT MADE ‘AND SIGNED 8Y Me
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REXSIONS AND ALLOWAN
OFFICE NAME: Brookfield OFFICE CODE: 1817043
ADDRESS: 213 Tennent Street
C/% WEEK No: 08
Belfast WEEK ENDING: 26/05/2001
TINE: 16/05/2001 13:55
BT13 326g .
This summary should be despatched with the CASH ACCOUNT.
GROUP NUMBER OF ORDERS TOTAL AMOUNT
NO FPS7/PS7 PENSIONS ALLOWANCES € Pp
MOD.ARMY 1 oO 0.00
MOD. Ind Injy ‘ 2 oO 0.00
MoD.ArR 3 2 9.00
A 2 0,00 en,
Child/ong Parent 5 “ee widede ‘35 7
Wax Pension 6 16 = 1078.50 ~
Dig Living AlL 7 188 ~ ~33664.09 —
Family Credit 8 oO 0.00
D.o.H. 9 0 9.00
Pension/rneSupp lo is) , 0,00
Income Support a 706 52736.58 ~~
Ind Inj/Death 3en 12
Ret Pension/All 13
Sickness Ben/All 14
PESERVED 15
FOR 16
FUTURE 17
USE 18
TOTALS: °
Milk Token
SIGNATURE. .
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2 orden, @ CloTbc
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FOR INSPECTION CY
TOTAL Grp 05 - ¢
=p 06 = Ww 2 348.207
Grp 06 - w we 578.547
Grp 06 - w ns ia 23.9677
. Srzp 06 - w , 270.
TOTAL Grp 08 ~ w 1s 1078.50
Grp 07
Gzp 07
"tte viay
PeU0UN005
o7-b \
tettetertsetaeeees 1 ars :
TORAL Allowances 4630003 ibe
Grp ll =r 0. HM8. 53.
Grp ll 2g 1144.35
Grp ll - 7 7467.57
Grp 11 - 8535.237-
Grp 11 - 2687.98
Grp 1p - 327.227
Grp il-r $708.57
erp ll ~ 5 6.2
Grp 11-7 2741.68
TOTAL Gep 11 -
Grp 12 >
Grp 12 =
Grp 12 -
=R
IR BA/OL
-R Rayoi
-2 MOL
-8 AR/O:
-R AR/OL
TOTAL Grp 13 - R
Fee
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12:51 16/05/2001 FAD 4827063
eRsions and Allowances
PRODUCT
TOTAL Grp ig -
fttteteteteete rete
TOTAL Pensions
#
PEA Milk ff
TOTAL PCA Milk :
SC REEELTERERE EEE j
TOTAL Milk Tokens Paar in 0.00 { 7
oat oe
SUMMARY TOTAL
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Brookfield
17554 14/05/2001 af
Pand 2 ~ Chent Copy
fillovances -
ET ap 65
103,46
-1174-
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Total
Ni op 13
VOLUNE
1
i
5
i
2
AS
Oe et ee eg
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Ui
J
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AI gp 13
PRICE voLUNE-. VALUE 68 i
4 ge I = gu
. cone BY 37.00... yh 20. “1178-
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real re ahah
SD
“ita i
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03.
162, 46
Total A gp 44
PRA wilk (HTD
PRICE VvoLuKe
Total P@a milk (HID 40
TOTALS: VOLUME VRE
Allowances has Wye
Grp 05 -C Hees as
Sub Totals 48 BES
Pensions AA heey:
Grp 14-1 Ska
Grp 13-& © 15110861537
orp 14 = i 4 40837
Sub’ Total: 38 6564.29
Nilk Tokens Pt A
Pe MEL “0 6.00
Sub Total: 40 000
SUNNORY TOTAL: ww arte
‘ORT x
vex EnD oF meet 2914987
I
Total
ML op 67
Fetes
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i
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VALUE
46.80
227.20
71.84
73.46
77.04
+ TBE
7
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os
cers
686
-1183-
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Total Pan alte (EE
VELURE
Ost OFFICE INVESTIGATION DEPARTMENT
post OFFICE INVESTOR
EXHIBIT No.
REGINA V. “ .
SIGNEO. DATE
macs. GOURTI
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77 7
Pave feaksert Aa? Atlant es
Mav eA
esi
IDENTIFYING MARK
veld
2. C.J. Act 1967.89. MC. Rules 1981.A.70-
w.c. ACT_1980.S.10:
LOeENTIFY THE EXHIBIT DESCRIBED AS THAT REFERRED TO IN THE
STATEMENT MADE ANO SIGNED BY ME
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PENSIONS AND ALLOWANCES
OFFICE NAME: Brookfield . OFFICE CODE: 1817043
ADDRESS: 213 Tennent Street
C/A. WEEK NO: 09
Belfast. WEEK ENDING: 23/05/2001
BT1L3 36g TIME: 23/05/2001 14:04
This summary should be despatched with the CASH ‘ACCOUNT.
GROUP NUMBER OF ORDERS TOTAL AMOUNT
NO FPS7/PS7 = PENSIONS ALLOWANCES = & P
MOD. ARMY 1 ° 0.00
MOD.Ind Injy . 2 0.00
MOD.AIR: 3
a 4 90.
child/one Parent 5 Feris a8 .
War, Pension 6 1660.69
Dis Living ALL 7 34623205 ~
Femily Credit 8 0 0.00
D.O.H. 9 fe) 0.00
Pension/tnesupp 10 O° 0.00
Income Support 1 931 7 68310.63 ~
Ind Inj/Death Sen 12 ~ 1661.50
Ret Pension/all 13
Sickness Ben/at2 4 -299-
iS 0
16 . fe
wz 0
USE 18 0
TOTALS: ° 2948
Milk Token P & A 2s 4S
STONATURE. I
tr Gro oF GRELKED
> s ROLLS.
FAiD CROER UNIT
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Pent
Brookfield
13:58 23/05/2001
ee
PRODUCT
onannanaa
rota dxp 05 -
Grp 06 ~ w
Pp 0S - Ww
Grp 08 - w
06 =
Gzp 06 - W
Grb 06 - W
TOTAL Grp 06 - w
zp OT
Grp 07
Grp 07
Grp 07
Grp 07
Gzp 07
Grp 07
Grp 07
=p 07
ve¥uvoUDOD
TOTAL Grp G7 - D
shttstssdaseeestt
TOTAL Allowances
Srp 11 -
Grp 11 -
Grp 11 -
Grp 11 -
Grp 11 -
Grp 11 -
Grp 1) -
Grp 11 ~
HM
AA/OL
AR/O1 1
AR/OL
AR/OL
AA/OL
RA/OL et los
RA/OL Bo
AB/OL 3”,
BA/OL ra
AA/OL
BR/OL
AR/OL
AR/OZ
AR/OL
RA/OL
RA/OL
AA/OL
BR/OL
AR/OL
AR/OL
BA/OL
AK/OL »
BR/OL
AR/OL
AR/OL
655.607
>
a
1347.00
$03.45 77
593.807, ,
2971.75
1028.25
357033 :
14788.597
2388.18"
480.00"
7885.27 ~~
3493.64" ~
3113.077) -
7441.12
3252,32~7
19622
68310.53
ssio.22
3043.52
698.35 q
rssesze 1M
7165.64
3708. 60~
21324.67
a710.14 Toe.
asoos.ar YS do
Tpiias (pH or soe
3085.45
GAS aL
2204.73 av
155.26
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PRODUCT Vou StVAWE ~~ és
ee da-r I 637 ss7ga9 77 &
Grp 14 - ao ‘3718.6: ° cee
TOTAL Grp 14 ~ 1
teetebetetedeceees ran
TOTAL Pensions
POA Milk 1
PéA Milk By
PEA Milk 1.
PGA Milk Ol
PEA Milk AR/OL
PGA Milk AR/OL
PER Milk BA/OL
PEA Milk a/01
PGR Milk PA/OL
TOTAL PéA Milk
fetettettee ett tes
TOTAL Milk Tokens Pca
Ia
SUMMARY TOTAL as a .
* [ose t i
t+ eno oF RezoRt +++
;
3
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i
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%
OREM
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18:80
NI gp Ui
NI gp 12
Total HI gp 12 1 22.58
HI ap 13
PRICE VOLUME VALUE /-
41,75 1 41.75
soy He
Ty OD 9165.89
© Total HI ap 14
P&A milk (HI)
PRICE
Total P&A ailk (KI)
Torns:
Allowances
Grp 05 -
Grp 07 ~
__ Sub Totals
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3
i
10
13
Sab ond B
Wilk Tokens PA
BEA Milk 1
Sub Total: t
SUMMARY TOTAL: 2
eee gun oF pepoRT wee 2 GE 5
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1 .
5 .
M4
1 59.95,
1 69.95
4 302.60
1 85. 04
9 845.55
30 OBL
20 a
5
1
1
1
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9
6
;
1
Total =. ME np 07) tHe 26916043
NE up 12 Kok,
PRICE VOLUME
1.23 2
, I
Mah 1
11,80 2
11.93 i
12.53 1
12:80 i
1.73 1
5.46 i
i
i
1
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i
1
som 2
25.75 1
23.53 1 E
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Fe an Le
374 30565 1 3.65
@ 39363, -1200-
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33.90
ap 102
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84,22 168.44
89.41 $5.45
86.64 86.64
86.99 86.99
88.02 176, 04
88.50 88.50
31.93 91.99
92.15 92.15
93.52 93,52
19 36.19
97.90 97.90
98.98 8.98
99.92 1.92
100.01 10.01
112.67 112.67
113,39 113,30
118,65 237,30
129,70 259,40
134.46 131.45
133.70 401.10
133. 133.86
Total Tap Tae
46.80
49.31
» SL
anes
RI gp -14
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2
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Total «= HI gp 4 63SOS73.19
aA milk (HI)
PRICE = VOLURE VALUE
28 0.00
Total P8A wilk (NI) 28 0.00
TOTALS: VOLUME VALUE
Allowances
Grp 05 - C 42 1169.15
Grp 06 - ¥ 5 235.31
' 6rp_07 - D Hig MBGAB2S ASAI
= nr Sub Total: SEP ps Aw
° ° Pensions <>
1 “s ue ita a2
it 7 3
63 6573.19
Sub Total 316 24322.51
Milk Tokens P & &
Pan Milk 28 0.00
Sub Totals 28 0.00
SUMMARY TOTAL: sat SOAS AT i
24 EXD OF REDORT HH SZ le OS
W
Oo
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or
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a IS ‘3
Grp 05 ~ 85 5,
Beers 5 ME Sea
Le dub Totel:
Pensions
Grp Ie - (
Grp 13 - # (Sent
vp ta = i ~ -1206-
- er Sub Total:
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Tote AL gp ts 204.79
Bah ean wir :
ee € VULURE «VALUE » .
.. Bb [i
!
- 708
-1207-
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103640,
“ 144.80
186.20 1 186.20
Total NE gp 05 a
RI gp 06 ar Dwr
a PRICE VOLURE. VALUE
153.75 2 319.50
Total AL gp 06 z 319.50
NE ap 07
PRICE VOLUME RUE
279.80 .
375.80
Total NI gp 07
WI op tL
PRICE = VOLUME VALUE
2.59 3 4
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AMCLO0000014
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Total NI gp 11 18L 14785.59
NI ap 13
VALUE
16.22
oN LeCmeere
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NE gp 13
NI gp 14
PRICE
26.74
168.80
Total NT gp 14
PEA witk CHD)
PRICE VOLUME
Total P8A ailk (HI) ’
ToTéus: Vowune AYRLUE
Allowances gS 2 ae S85
Grp 05 - C “PBET35
Grp 06 - W 2 319.50
Grp 07 - D 2 655,60
SubTotal: gg
: Pensions Bm GAZ
: . Grp 11 - 181 14785,59
a : Grp 13-8 168 1910.24
i . ' Grp 14-1 54 45
. Sub Totals 403 g
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PENSIONS AND ALLOWANCES
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ADDRESS: 213 Tennent Street
C/A, WEEK NO: 10
Belfast WEEK ENDING: 30/05/2001
BT13 3G TIME: 30/05/2001 14:02
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GROUP NUMBER OF ORDERS TOTAL AMOUNT
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Grp 06 3313
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2392.90 LAOUP ?
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5 DISALLOWED
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167 ORDERS AT £56.55 EACH
CLAIMED. 165 ORDERS AT
£53.55 EACH AND 2 ORDERS
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£0.44 DISALLOWED
7412/00 40 £115,708.17 £213.45 GROUP 13
2 ORDERS AT £125.94 EACH
£115 ,494.72
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2 ORDERS AT £87.51 EACH
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23/5/01 9
£435.13 GROUP 13
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271,650.22
£271 .215.09
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