FUJ00153872 - Email from Andrew Bolc to Gareth Jenkins re: Sefton and Nield.

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To: Jenkins Gareth Gt.
Subject: I RE: Sefton & Nield
Gareth,

Thanks, I believe this should do for now. I have copies of the original reports.

Please would you scan and email me a copy, and put the original in the post so i can serve it on the
court to Cartwright King Solicitors, Permanent House, 31 Horsefair Street, Leicester LE1 5BU.

Please ensure to sign the first page twice, once under the date and at the bottom and ask a colleague
to witness your signiture at the bottom of each page. sorry but if i had a penny for each.....

Mant thanks
Regards

andrew

From: Jenkins Gareth G
Sent: 05 December 2012
To: Andrew Bolc

Ce: Rachael Panter; Thomas Penny
Subject: RE: Sefton & Nield

Andrew,

I have now amended my witness statement to refer to the specific case and to mention the removal of the Cash
Account in 2005.

Does this provide sufficient detail? If it is OK, I’ll sign a hard copy and get it scanned and emailed to you (or do you
want a paper copy in the post — if so I’ll need an address).

Regards

Gareth

Gareth Jenkins

Distinguished Engineer
Business Applications Architect
Post Office Account

FUJITSU

Berkshire

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From: Andrew Bolc:
Sent: 03 December
To: Jenkins Gareth GI

Subject: RE: Sefton & Nield and Grant Allen

Gareth,

The only clarification I think I need at the moment relates to the time line, 2005 removal of cash account. Could you
clarify what this means and discount it as a possible explanation for the losses beginning to occur at that time in the
sefton and neild case.

The audit reports will simply show the money missing, so will not take things further.

Andrew

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From: Jenkins Gareth GI

Sent: Dec 03, 2012 1:35 PM

To: Andrew Bolc

CC: Thomas Penny, Rachael Panter
Subject: RE: Sefton & Nield and Grant Allen

Andrew,

Thanks for the info you have supplied me with on these two cases. I thought I should try
and clarify exactly what you want from me.

My understanding from Rachael was that all that is required is a signed version of a
standard report I produced a couple of months ago (attached - together with 2 related
documents). If that is the case I can get that produced, scanned and emailed to you in a
couple of days.

However having read through the info you’ve given me, perhaps you want me to cover some
further things. Some observations:

1. In the case of Nield & Sefton, it is stated losses started in 2005 and this is linked
to the installation of Horizon. My report shows that Horizon was rolled out between
1999 and 2002, so 2005 doesn’t seem to tie in with Horizon being installed. NB I
have no records as to exactly when Horizon was installed in any Branch and I don’t
know if Post Office Ltd have any such records. Similarly I have no idea if this
mismatch of dates is material.

2. At some point in 2010 the Post Office would have been migrated from the original
Horizon System to the new Horizon Online system. This is mentioned in the Grant
Allen case but not in the Nield & Sefton case.

Note that I have no information regarding complaints or investigations into Horizon, and it
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has already been established that it is not possible to examine the original Horizon system
that was operational until 2010.

Similarly, I have not been presented with any audit data relating to any of these cases to
examine.

Regards
Gareth

Gareth Jenkins

Distinguished Engineer
Business Applications Architect
Post Office Account

FUJITSU
Lovelace Road, Bracknell, Berkshire, RG12 8SN
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-----! Original Message
From: Andrew Bolc
Sent: 3@ November 2012 16:30
To: Rachael Panter

Cc: Jenkins Gareth GI
Subject: FW:

Dear Rachael / Gareth,
Please find enclosed outlines of the the two cases which involve me.

Of the two, i would say that the Sefton & nield case is the more urgent, and therefore
Gareth i would be grateful if you could concentrate on that one first. it is listed for
trial in Jan and they have been waiting longer for this report. the allen case is only
for plea and case management on 10th December. in an ideal world i would like to serve a
report before the 10th if possible, but in any event we do not have a defence case
statement in that matter yet.

regards

Andrew Bolc
Cartwright King Solicitors

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