POL00143269 - Email from Craig Tuthill To: Rod Ismay and CC: Nick Beal re Ref; Thorney Post Office, 5 Abbey Place PE6 , Computer Systems failure.

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From: Craig Tuthillf

Sent: Wed 27/06/2012 12:42:08 PM (UTC)

To: Rod Ismayf~ GRO

Ce: Nick Bealf”

Subject: FW: Fwd: Ref; Thorney Post Office, 5 Abbey Place PE6 , Computer Systems failure.
Rod

I don't think Thorney is one for the audit request but hope you can help me understand this all a bit better.

I've got the team in Maidstone receiving any requests calls made to NSSC as a result of the announcement that we
are to use external auditors to check Horizon system integrity. I think there remains confusion as this is of course

different from a physical audit, but Pat in Maidstone will ensure this is understood by an agent.

Pat will additionally keep a record of any formal request to be involved in the system forensic audit if received,

including if they arrive via the NFSP to Angela or I.

However can you confirm if there will e a requirement to enlist branches for the external auditors to possibly use? Are

you the owner of this?

Sorry if I'm asking silly questions but other than sight of a coupe of e-mails on Friday from Alana and Kevin I haven't
been involved directly but seem to be named regardless

Regards

Craig

Craig Tuthill

Network Services National Support Manager
Network & Sales Directorate

Post Office Ltd

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c/o Stephanie Lawrie

1* Floor Bunhill Row Wing
148 Old Street

LONDON EC1V 9HQ

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GRO

Supporting and improving branch performance
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From: Nick Beal

Sent: 27 June 2012 13:20

To: Craig Tuthill; Alwen Lyons

Cc: Angela Van-Den-Bogerd

Subject: RE: Fwd: Ref; Thorney Post Office, 5 Abbey Place PE6 , Computer Systems failure.

Hi Craig

This is about alignment and making sure that any case he has had flagged to him is on our radar.

George has forwarded a number of “cases” on the back of the announcement relating to the forensic audit — I'll forward
the rest.

At some point, I would expect that the auditor is likely to want to see these cases.
It would make sense that they come direct to you I think in these circumstances.
Regards

Nick

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From: Craig Tuthill

Sent: 27 June 2012 11:34

To: Alwen Lyons

Cc: Angela Van-Den-Bogerd; Nick Beal

Subject: RE: Fwd: Ref; Thorney Post Office, 5 Abbey Place PE6 , Computer Systems failure.

Alwen
Okay, Is there anything outstanding from this enquiry?

We have set up the register via NBSC to capture and requests for “audit” from individual branches but would the route
for the Fed not be via Nick Beal and his team? Obviously if anything arrives at mine or Angela’s desk we will deal with
appropriately

Nick — what is your view?

Regards

Craig

Craig Tuthill

Network Services National Support Manager

Network & Sales Directorate &
Post Office Ltd

c/o Stephanie Lawrie

1* Floor Bunhill Row Wing
148 Old Street

LONDON EC1V 9HQ

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From: Alwen Lyons

Sent: 27 June 2012 10:52

To: Craig Tuthill

Cc: Angela Van-Den-Bogerd

Subject: FW: Fwd: Ref; Thorney Post Office, 5 Abbey Place PE6 , Computer Systems failure.

Craig
Kevin asked me to send this through to you. He has spoken to George but we need to set up a process to pick up any
further cases that he is sent. I will give him yours and Angela’s names to come through to

Thanks
alwen

Alwen Lyons
Company Secretary
Post Office Ltd

148 Old Street, LONDON, EC1V 9HQ

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From: george.thomson mailto;_
Sent: 25 June 2012 09:16

To: Alwen Lyons

Cc: Paula Vennells; Kevin Gilliland

Subject: Re: Fwd: Ref; Thorney Post Office, 5 Abbey Place PE6 , Computer Systems failure.

Alwen

Tam at a meeting until 12.30,problem with phone on Fri,very strange decision by POL ,outcome will be
contested anyway because POL appointed investigators.

From: Alwen Lyons {
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 20
To: 'George.Thomsor,
Ce: Paula Vennells!,
Subject: Re: Fwd: Ref; Thorney Post Office, 5 Abbey Place PE6 , Computer Systems failure.

George I telephoned you twice on Friday to discuss this and left messages. I also talked to Linda in Shoreham to try to
get hold of you. She suggested your mobile. Would you be available this morning for a call
Thanks Alwen

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From: george.thomson¢_
Sent: Monday, June 25,
To: Alwen Lyons

Cc: Paula Vennells; Kevin Gilliland

Subject: Re: Fwd: Ref; Thorney Post Office, 5 Abbey Place PE6 , Computer Systems failure.

Alwen

Who in POL had the idea to have a review into Horizon.Given my strong support for the integrity of the
Horizon system over 5 years ,[ am disappointed that my views on this course of action were not sought,I am
also surprised that after leaving messages with POL no one has picked up the phone to talk through this
contentious decision.

To: ‘George. Thomsoni™
Subject: Fw: Fwd: Ref; Thorney Post Office, 5 Abbey Place PE6 “Gomputer Systems failure.

George I am currently on a train so can't speak. I'll be off it in about an hour so will call then
Thanks Alwen

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From: Paula Vennells

Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 04:04 PM
To: Kevin Gilliland; Alana Renner; Alwen
Cc: George Thomson <George. Thomson:
Subject: Fwd: Ref; Thorney Post Office,

PE6 , Computer Systems failure.

Please can Alwen contact George as I'm out this pm, and make sure that we have a process for capturing
‘interest’ that comes in via the Fed.

George thank you for this. We will be completely open and transparent. I'd like to get this cleared up for
everyone.

ASAP thanks
Paula

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From: George Thomson ¢,

To: Paula Vennells
Subject: Fwd: Ref; Thorney Post Office, 5 Abbey Place PE6 , Computer Systems failure.

Paula

Sending an example of 6 or 7 people who have contacted us in the last 2 days.Not good.
VB

George

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From: "Marilyn Stoddart"
Date: 22 June 2012 09
To: "George Thomson" } _. GRO a
Subject: FW: Ref; Thorney Post Office, 5 Abbey Place PE6 , Computer
Systems failure.

George
I don't recall dealing with this previously does it ring any bells with you?
Marilyn

Marilyn Stoddart

Assistant General Secretary
Evelyn House

22 Windlesham Gardens
Shoreham-by-Sea

West Sussex

BN3 5AZ

Tel
Fax

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From: Amanda Cox

Sent: 22 June 2012 08:14

To: Marilyn Stoddart

Subject: FW: Ref; Thorney Post Office, 5 Abbey Place PE6 , Computer Systems failure.

Amanda Cox

NFSP, Evelyn House

22 Windlesham Gardens
Shoreham-by-Sea, West Sussex
BN43 5AZ

web: www.nfsp.org.uk

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From: paul taylor [mailt
Sent: 21 June 2012 23:18

To: Amanda Cox

Subject: Ref; Thorney Post Office, 5 Abbey Place PE6 , Computer Systems failure.
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Paul Tawlor.........

GRO.

Dear Sir/Madam

Ref; Thorney Post Office, 5 Abbey Place PE6 , Computer Systems failure.

http: //www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18535354

T have previously written to you regarding a computer errors not balancing correctly at the
end of each day and my 63 year old mother having to use her own money to balance the
system. After constant checking, as my mother use to work in a bank and has been a sub
post mistress for twelve years she is more than able to do this basic task, however, the
system still did not balance even when on paper it should. Because of this she has had to
use her own funds to balance the system or be accused of being incompetent or fraudulent.

After weeks of telephone conversations by my Mother with unhelpful staff from nameless
Post Office personal I contacted your organisation in order for your support and advice.

Your advice was close to useless your support was non existent and my Mother was just
insulted by a man stating the obvious over the telephone.

So please explain to me the link I attach below and why after several letters you did not
bring this to my attention?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18535354

I would like you to contact Mrs G Taylor at Thorney Post Office, 5 Abbey Place, Thorney
PE6 and apologise for your lack lustre performance and how you are going to support her
further as I thought is the whole point being a paid member of National Federation of Sub
Postmasters.

Yours sincerely

Paul Taylor

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