BEIS0000961 - Email from Minister Scully to Joshua Scott, Minister Callanan, Permanent Secretary and others re: POL - SoS/Minister Scully/Lord Callanan/SPADs - 7 Sept Meeting

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From: Scully, Minister (Private Office)[/O=EXCHANGELABS/OU=EXCHANGE
ADMINISTRATIVE GROUP
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Sent: Tue 08/09/2020 1:45:55 PM (UTC)
To: Callanan, Minister (Private
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Subject: RE: [OFF:SEN] RE: POL - SoS/Minister Scully/Lord Callanan/SPADs - 7 Sept
Meeting

Hi Josh,

Apologies, this was on my to-do list. Here are my notes from yesterday's meeting:

Attendees:

Declan Salter; Nick Read; Tim Parker; Richard Taylor; Eleanor Brooks; Perm Sec; Minister
Scully; Carl Creswell; Tom Cooper; Patrick Kilgarriff; Tim McInnes; Nick Vamos; Jamie Lucas;
Joshua Scott; Richard Watson; Alan Watts

Note of meeting
STARTS
e = Antraductorv_remarks.

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. “Tom ‘noted that although ‘Alan has taken the thinking on this quite a way, -Tomis keen
that BEIS/UKGI don't get too involved i in the details.of the schemes._but focus.more.an....

. Carl asked whether Perm Sec had any views as Accounting Officer, and ensuring
propriety, VFM, ethical considerations on any comms statement. Perm Sec wanted to
know if the wording of the statement.was. consistent with only. mediating.on. the SAaSO§

t would come up.} Legal
I Perm Sec noted that none of the Schemes are terribly attractive. Cari said that
all options" and "entitled to" in the statement suggests that Government is committing

to give more compensation to claimants than they would actually be receiving.
Carl/Perm Sec noted that through mediation, some claimants will receive much less
than they think they are entitled to.

e Perm Sec generally happy about AO considerations but wants to ensure clarification of
wording of the statement. Tom said that officials will clarify/finalise wording and share
with Perm Sec to ensure she's happy with AO considerations. Tim Parker said that we
need to say something about the 2nd October date.

e Focus moved to slide 9 - status of historic shortfall schemes. Declan said just in excess
of 200 applicants. Will shortly set de minimis levels and start to quantify claims once
panel has reviewed. Stamp scheme is running behind it, and that will be a much lighter
admin scheme, more like a general compensation scheme. Carl noted concerns about
the stamp scheme from a comms perspective, as it ‘shows that POL can't count
stamps'.

Closing remarks

ENDS

Best wishes.
Sonny
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ae Sonny Murphy

Private Secretary to Paul Scully MP
Department for Minister for Small Business, Consumers & Labour

Business, Energy for London,
& Industrial Strategy

Department for Business, Energy and Industrial
Strategy

From: Scott, Joshua -
Sent: 08 September 2020 13:47
To: Call Mini Pri Offi

Hi Madhav, Sonny,

Just following up on this.

Would it be possible to have a read-out from yesterdays meeting? I have my own notes but would be
good to compare to yours.

We thought the meeting went well and I hope the Perm Sec and Minister Scully found it useful.
Cheers,
Josh

Joshua Scott I Manager
UK Government Investments

1 Victoria Street. London, SW1H OET

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Sent: 07 September 2020 13:02

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Subject: RE: [OFF:SEN] RE: POL - SoS/Minister Scully/Lord Callanan/SPADs - 1 Sept Meeting

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Hi Mel,

No problem and thank you for letting me know.
I have informed POL.

Cheers,

Josh

Joshua Scott I Manager
UK Government Investments

1 Victoria Street,

www.ukgi. a uk
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Sent: 07 Septemb:

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Subject: RE: [OFF:SEN] RE: POL - SoS/Minister Scully/Lord Callanan/SPADs - 1 Sept Meeting

GRO.

Hi all,

With apologies, Lord Callanan can no longer attend this afternoon as something urgent has come up—
grateful if you can share a readout with me so I can pass on to the Minister, he remains very keen to
stay in the loop (he’s currently actually in the Lords waiting for an OQ on Horizon).

Many thanks,
Mel
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Private Secretary to Lord Callanan
Minister for Climate Change & Corporate Responsibility
Department for Tel: "Mobil
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Hi all,
Hope you had a good weekend.

Just to confirm as I have had a couple of enquiries over the weekend. There is no material change to
the briefing (reattached) — the only amendment I have made is to update the timing.

To note I believe Tom and Carl will be attending in person in room 8N. All POL attendees will be using
MS Teams.

Any questions please do let me know.
Cheers,
Josh

Joshua Scott I Manager
UK Government Investments
London, SW1H OET

1 Victoria Stre

www.ukgi.or

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Sent: 04 September

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subjeck RE: [OFF:SEN] RE: POL - SoS/Minister Scully/Lord Callanan/SPADs - 1 Sept Meeting
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Hello,

Rescinding slightly on my previous email — Lord Callanan is very keen to attend given level of interest
in the Lords so will attend for the final 30 mins.

Thanks,
Mel
A , Melissa Craig
Private Secretary to Lord Callanan
Minister for Climate Change & Corporate Responsibility
Department for

Business, Energy
& Industrial Strategy

www.gov.uk/beis I https://twitter.com/beisgovuk

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Sent: 01 September 2020 11:29

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Subject: RE: [OFF:SEN] RE: POL - SoS/Minister Scully/Lord Callanan/SPADs - 1 Sept Meeting

Hi all,

Lord Callanan will be unable to make this new time due to the inaugural weekly transition readiness
meeting between Junior Ministers. Aware we've previously said not to work this meeting around LC
(and this stands) but Minister Scully will have the same meeting.

Thanks,

Mel
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Minister for Climate Change & Corporate Responsibilit
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Hi Sonny,

No problem.

Also to confirm I see the meeting has been moved to Thursday 17:00— 18:00. POL have confirmed
they can do the new time.

Cheers,
Josh

Joshua Scott I Analyst
UK Government Investments

1 Victoria Street, London, SW1H OET
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From: Scully, Minister (Private Office)
Sent: 28 August 2020 20:50
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Hi Josh,

Many thanks to you, and all colleagues copied, for pulling this together. Much appreciated.

Kind regards,

Sonny
ae Sonny Murphy
Private Secretary to Paul Scully MP
Department for Minister for Small Business, Consumers & Labour

Business, Energy
& Industrial Strategy

Markets I Minister for London

Department for Business, Energy and Industrial
Strategy

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Subject: [OFF:SEN] RE: POL - SoS/Minister Scully/Lord Callanan/SPADs - 1 Sept Meeting
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Hi Sonny,

Withy many thanks to the team for their input please see the briefing for the meeting on 1 September
at 16:30 — 17:30 between POL and BEIS Ministers, Perm Sec and SpAds.

I have also attached the slide deck POL will talk through.
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Any questions please do let me know.
Cheers,
Josh

Joshua Scott I Analyst

UK Government Investments

www.ukgi.org.uk

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From: Scully, Minister (Private Office) +
Sent: 17 August 2020 14:5:

Callanan, Minister
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Subject: RE: POL - SoS/Minister Scully/Lord Callanan/SPADs

Hi Josh,

Grateful if you could send the briefing by 4pm Friday 28" August.

Many thanks,

Jess
ae Jessica Tysoe
Acting Senior Private Secretary to the Minister for Small
Department for Business, Consumers & Labour Markets

. and Minister for London
Business, Energy Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy
& Industrial Strategy 1 Victoria Street, London, SW1H OET

From: Permanent Secretary
Sent: 17 August 2020 12:56

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; Scully, Minister

Good stuff, thanks Josh. Have now added you to the scheduler.
COP 28" Aug works for us as deadline for the briefing.
Oliver

Oliver Page I Private Secretary to Sarah Munby, Permanent Secretar

Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy

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To: Permanent Secretary SpAds Office (Private Office)

Brooks-White (Jobshare)

; Scully, Minister
ister (Private Office)

subjects RE: POL - SoS/Minister Scully/Lord Callanan/SPADs

Hi Oliver,

To confirm POL can do this time slot.

Could you forward me the invite so I can put it in relevant diaries?

I'll prepare the briefing in advance — does close 28" work as a deadline for it?
Cheers,

Josh

Joshua Scott I Analyst

UK Government Investments

1 Victoria Street, London, SW1H OET

www.ukgi.org.uk

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From: Permanent Secretary <
Sent: 14 August 2020 11:24
To: SpAds Office (Private Office) ¢

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cully/Lord Callanan/SPADs

Hi James,

Background to this meeting in attached e-mail chain. Alan / Gillian to note that the steer at the time
from Ash was that SoS need not attend this, though view might have changed since.

Josh / Beth & Eleanor — could you please socialise this date (01 September 2020 16:00-17:00) with
POL colleagues to check that it works for them?

Many thanks,
Oliver

Oliver Page I Private Secretary to Sarah Munby, Permanent Secretar

Industrial Strategy

From: SpAds Office (Private Office)
Sent: 14 August 2020 11:
To: Permanent Secretary
Subject: Re: POL - SoS/Minister Scully/Lord Callanan/SPADs

Hi, is there a proposed agenda for this?

Thanks,
James

James Crosby, Acting Senior Private Secretary to the Special Advisers

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Subject: FW: POL - SoS/Minister Scully/Lord Callanan/SPADs

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From: Permanent Secretary ‘
Sent: 14 August 2020 10:27

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To: Permanent Secretary; Munby, Sarah (BEIS); Secretary Of State (Private Office); Scully, Minister
(Private Office); Callanan, Minister (Private Office); Hatt, Daniel (Private Office); Hitchcock, Alexander
(BEIS); Brown, Cameron (BEIS); Mcswaine, Celia (BEIS); Philips, James (BEIS); Adkins, Natasha (Private
Office)

Subject: POL - SoS/Minister Scully/Lord Callanan/SPADs

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