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Christian Spelzini Walton,
Subject: RE: Support to City of London Police Investigation
Post Office Limited - Document Classification: INTERNAL
Chris
We have had a call with CoLP following your email below and they will be in touch with you again to arrange the taking
of a witness statement or statements. We would be grateful for Fujitsu to extend any and all assistance to CoLP to aid
their objective understanding and assessment as to the reliability of the Horizon system and the admissibility of
evidence produced from it relating to the investigation they are conducting following POL making a crime report to them
as a potential victim.
Regards
JB
From: Chris Breen (Fujitsu)
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2024 6:07 PM
_p Christian Spelzi Daniel
Subject: RE: Support to City of London Police Investigation
Post Office Limited - Document Classification: INTERNAL
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Dear Mr Bartlett
I have been passed your message by the team within Fujitsu Services Limited that looks after the delivery of contractual
services to Post Office Limited in relation to the Horizon System.
lam a solicitor in Fujitsu’s legal team. Please refer any further correspondence on this matter to me rather than Mr
Walton.
I note your comments about FSL’s engagement with City of London Police, which are not accepted.
It is not appropriate for FSL to discuss with POL the nature and substance of its co-operation with an ongoing Police
investigation.
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FSL will continue to co-operate with the Police in relation to its ongoing investigation (or indeed any other) and it will
not discuss the nature and substance of this engagement with others, unless the Police directs this to happen.
Regards
Chris Breen
Chris Breen
Legal Manager - Litigation for Europe
From: John Bartlett {
Sent: Friday, April 19,
To: Walton, Daniel !
Ce: Christian Spelzi
Subject: RE: Support to City of London Police Investigation
Simon Oldnall!
Post Office Limited - Document Classification: INTERNAL
Good morning Dan
One of my team has gone back to City of London Police (CoLP) to see how the contact you referenced below was
progressing as we have an open and objective engagement with CoLP on this matter.
CoLP has informed us that they have not had any additional information nor contact with Fujitsu after the single,
exploratory and inconclusive conversation. They left that conversation with the feeling that they were indirectly being
told that the Horizon system was unreliable and so the case could not progress. We really need to explore this as this is
not the nuanced impression Simon Oldnall has given me.
As the potential victim in this case, POL would be grateful if you can provide me with contact details for either the
equivalent person in Fujitsu (in the UK) to my role (ie in overall charge of investigations, or perhaps the head of security
if you do not have a dedicated investigation team) or an appropriate person in your UK legal team. I will then pass those
details on to CoLP who are looking to have a trilateral conversation with Fujitsu, POL and CoLP.
It is impossible to overstate how important this is: I need to advise both the police and POL as to the evidentially-
established reliability (or not) of data that is being used every day in establishing outcomes with Postmasters and,
potentially, to be presented to the criminal justice system by the police and the three public prosecuting agencies. The
non-provision of relevant witness statements from POL and Fujitsu will rightly be interpreted by the police and
prosecutors as POL and Fujitsu not having faith in the reliability of the data with the obvious outcome resulting.
Look forward to hearing from you and thank you in advance.
JB
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John Bartlett (He/Him)
Director of Assurance & Complex Investigations,
& Head of Post Office Investigation Branch
Legal & Compliance
Finsbury Dials, 20 Finsbury Street
London, EC2Y 9AQ
postoffice.co.uk
I work flexibly — so whilst it suits me to email outside normal working hours, I do not expect a response outside your own.
From: Daniel Walton (Fujitsu,
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2024 4:43 PM ”
To: Simon Oldnall: GRO }
Cc: John Bartlett : - )
Subject: RE: Support to City of London Police Investigation
Post Office Limited - Document Classification: INTERNAL
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Hi Simon
Thank you for your message below.
As this is a legal matter, FSL Legal are communicating with the City of London Police.
I am not involved in those communications, and in any event, FSL considers it to be inappropriate for Post Office and FSL
to be discussing a police investigation.
Thanks,
Dan
Dan Walton
Head of Post Office Account
Fujitsu
Lovelace Road, Bracknell. RG128SN
United Kingdom
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From: Simon Oldnall }
Sent: Thursday, April
To: Walton, Daniel
Cc: John Bartlett
Subject: Support to City of London Police Investigation
Post Office Limited - Document Classification: INTERNAL
Dan
I understand from John that there have been some challenges with supporting an ongoing Police investigation that
involves a large sum of money.
I obviously understand broader context, but wanted reassure that POL is supporting the Police investigation and offering
any and all assistance we can. Can I ask that you help with any conversations that City of London Police need to have
with Fujitsu Services Ltd.
Please do give me a call if you need to discuss
Best
Simon
Simon Oldnall
Horizon IT Director
Horizon IT Team
100 Wood Street
London
EC2V 7AN
postoffice.co.uk
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