FUJ00243203 - Email from John Bartlett to Daniel Walton, Simon Oldnall and Christian Spelzini re: Support to City of London Police Investigation.

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From: John Bartlett

Sent: 19/04/2024 08:53

To: Walton, Dani Simon Oldnall !
cc: Christian Spelzini {

Subject: RE: Support to City of London Police Investigation

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Good morning Dan

One of my team has gone back to City of London Police (CoLP) to see how the contact you referenced below was
progressing as we have an open and objective engagement with CoLP on this matter.

CoLP has informed us that they have not had any additional information nor contact with Fujitsu after the single,
exploratory and inconclusive conversation. They left that conversation with the feeling that they were indirectly being
told that the Horizon system was unreliable and so the case could not progress. We really need to explore this as this is
not the nuanced impression Simon Oldnall has given me.

As the potential victim in this case, POL would be grateful if you can provide me with contact details for either the
equivalent person in Fujitsu (in the UK) to my role (ie in overall charge of investigations, or perhaps the head of security
if you do not have a dedicated investigation team) or an appropriate person in your UK legal team. I will then pass those
details on to CoLP who are looking to have a trilateral conversation with Fujitsu, POL and CoLP.

It is impossible to overstate how important this is: I need to advise both the police and POL as to the evidentially-
established reliability (or not) of data that is being used every day in establishing outcomes with Postmasters and,
potentially, to be presented to the criminal justice system by the police and the three public prosecuting agencies. The
non-provision of relevant witness statements from POL and Fujitsu will rightly be interpreted by the police and
prosecutors as POL and Fujitsu not having faith in the reliability of the data with the obvious outcome resulting.

Look forward to hearing from you and thank you in advance.
JB
John Bartlett (He/Him)

Director of Assurance & Complex Investigations,
& Head of Post Office Investigation Branch

Legal & Compliance

Finsbury Dials, 20 Finsbury Street
London, EC2Y 9AQ

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From: Daniel Walton (Fujitsu,
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2024 4:43 PM
To: Simon Oldnall,
Cc: John Bartlett: GRO }

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Subject: RE: Support to City of London Police Investigation

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Hi Simon

Thank you for your message below.

As this is a legal matter, FSL Legal are communicating with the City of London Police.

1am not involved in those communications, and in any event, FSL considers it to be inappropriate for Post Office and FSL
to be discussing a police investigation.

Thanks,
Dan

Dan Walton
Head of Post Office Account

Fujitsu
Lovelace Road, Bracknell. RG128SN
United Kingdom

Web: https://www.fujitsu.com/uk/

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From: Simon Oldna _. }
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 11:49 AM
To: Walton, Dani
Ce: John Bartlett!
Subject: Support to City of London Police Investigation

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Dan

I understand from John that there have been some challenges with supporting an ongoing Police investigation that
involves a large sum of money.

I obviously understand broader context, but wanted reassure that POL is supporting the Police investigation and offering
any and all assistance we can. Can I ask that you help with any conversations that City of London Police need to have
with Fujitsu Services Ltd.

Please do give me a call if you need to discuss

Best

Simon

Simon Oldnall
Horizon IT Director
Horizon IT Team

100 Wood Street
London
EC2V 7AN

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