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Dear Jarnail,
John Longman sets out in his email below the extra matters that I asked Mr Jenkins to
look at. In relation to the Eleanor Nixon statement Mr Jenkins should also be made
aware of the information we recently received, that the problem with Streamline existed
only until August 2005 and so the Nixon statement is unlikely to have any relevance for
Misra.
The areas where Mr Jenkins says "for POL to respond" should be deleted from the
statement. These areas will only lead to a flood of further disclosure requests and I am
afraid that POL will never respond.
It doesn't appear that Mr Jenkins has seen the 3rd interim report served this week. He
should comment on that as well.8
The quality of training of SPMs is obviously outside Mr Jenkins' expertise. However I
wonder if he might be prepared to comment on how it might be possible to examine the
Horizon data to investigate mistakes.
Iam keen that the Defence are given suggestions as to how they can efficiently test
their theories against the Horizon data. I do not want them to say that they will not have
time before the trial. I anticipate that it would not be very difficult to test their theories
against a short but representative span of data eg. from the months where she has
admitted to false accounting. It would be helpful if Mr Jenkins could consider practical
and efficient ways in which the Defence might be able to test their theories.
Many thanks,
Warwick
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> To: jarnail.a.singh€ warwicktatford¢,
> From: john.longman),
> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 15
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> Jarnail
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> Points 2 - 4 have not been answered which I reproduce below.
>
> 2) My barrister telephoned me yesterday evening and requested that I find
> out any information that Fujitsu may hold in relation to an office called
> Callender Square in Falkirk. Apparently, Anne Chambers a Systems
> Specialist employed by Fujitsu was cross examined and it is said that she
> had full knowledge of an error in the Horizon system at this Post Office.
> Our barrister would like Gareth to deal with this matter and expand upon
> whatever issue Anne Chambers raised at court within his witness statement.
>
> 3) When Gareth completes his statement could he also mention whether there
> are any known problems with the Horizon system that Fujitsu are aware of.
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> If none could this be clarified in the statement.
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> 4) Could Gareth read the statement from Eleanor Nixon attached below and
> respond in his statement to the points raised by Eleanor Nixon about
> Horizon.
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> (See attached file: Eleanor Nixon Statement.rtf)
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> Dear John and Warwick,
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> Herewith statement from Gareth Jenkins. Just off the press. Please let me
> have your comments and whether this is adequate for our purpose or does it
> require any additions before being served on the Defence.
>
> Regards.
> .
> Jarnail Singh
> Senior Lawyer
> Criminal Law Division
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> Jarnail,
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> Thank you for your attached email - which I have now received!
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> I met this morning with Gareth Jenkins who came into the office briefly to
>_meet with me. Gareth will help with this matter. Although Gareth has been
ito normal working next week. His input will be
> coordinated by Penny who is responsible for delivery to POL of support in
> this Security area.
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> Attached is a first draft of a statement from Gareth. I would like you to
> review it and indicate If It answers the questions in the detail you
> require.
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> You will see that there are some areas where Fujitsu cannot deal with the
> Defendant's expert's criticisms as they are about POL procedures or
> requirements and it seems evident that there will need to be a POL internal
> “expert” who can work with Gareth to deal with these areas,
>
> One concern is that POL have not apparently requested transaction data for
> West Byfleet for the period and transactions in question. This would
> normally be provided in previous cases and would include Fujitsu extracting
> log files from the system to enable us to provide details of transactions.
> Surprisingly this has not been requested I this case. Perhaps you would
consider the need for this.
Please copy me for information on key developments on this case.
Best wishes
David
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> This e-mail is only for the use of its intended recipient. Its contents
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> Dear Mr Jones,
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> I refer to our telephone conversations of 4th and Sth February 2010 with
> regards to obtaining a witness statement of the Defence challenging the
> reliability of Horizon. I understand that Mr Jenkins has been identified
> as an experienced person to give this statement. I would be grateful,
> after your meeting this morning, if you could confirm.to.me.when Mr
> Jenkins would be back to return to duty; GRO 5 I need to
> apply to Guildford Crown Court to get an extensi ‘Serve his evidence.
> As you are aware there is a Court Order for this evidence to be served by
> Monday 8th February 2010 at 4pm.
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> Thank you for your kind assistance and look forward to hearing from you.
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> Senior Lawyer
> Criminal Law Team
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