POL00042127 - Email chain from Johann Appel to Lucy Bremner, Jonathan Gribben and Rodric Williams re: Urgent: Documents required: RMG ARC Minutes from 2010 & 2011 [WBDUKAC.FID27032497]

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From: Johann Appel

Sent: 09/11/2018 16:

To: Lucy Bremner [/o=Exchange-Org/ou=Exchange Administrative Group
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ce: Angela Van-Den-Bogerd an Jonathan Gribben [/o=Exchange-
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Subject: RE: Urgent: Documents required: RMG ARC Minutes from 2010 & 2011 [WBDUK-AC.FID27032497]

Attachments: RE: URGENT PLEASE- Information needed for GLO Horizon issues Trial

Lucy,

lam afraid, we didn’t make any further progress on this and I know the deadline was yesterday. Whilst the Royal Mail
archive personnel initially seemed willing to assist us, they have yesterday referred it to their legal tearn, who were
reluctant to release any documents to us. They were going to speak to Rod Williams to understand why we need this,
but I don’t know if such a conversation happened.

My view is still (as per the attached e-mail) that given that the external auditors have not re-reported any concerns over
the Credence IT control environment, this could be interpreted that the shortcomings noted in 2010 have been
remediated.

Best regards,
Johann

Johann Appel
Head of Internal Audit

Ground Floor
20 Finsbury Street
LONDON EC2Y 9AQ

From: Lucy Bremner

bs Jonathan Gribben

Subject: RE: Urgent: Documents required: RMG ARC Minutes from 2010 & 2011 [WBDUK-AC.FID27032497]
Hi Johann,

I will need to produce a draft statement and have it reviewed by counsel so Thursday 8 November is the absolute
deadline. If you could let have your comments so far that would be helpful.

Kind regards,

Lucy

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Lucy Bremner
Associate
Wornble Bond Dickinson (UK) LLP

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From: Johann Appel
Sent: 06 November 2018 08:45

To: Lucy Bremner

Cc: Angela Van-Den-Bogerd

Subject: FW: Urgent: Documents required: RMG ARC Minutes from 2010 & 2011

Hi Lucy

We still haven’t found any relevant documents. When is the absolute deadline for this? Would you like me in the
meantime summarise my conclusion on the subsequent papers that we have reviewed?

Best regards,
Johann

Johann Appel
Head of Internal Audit

Ground Floor
20 Finsbury Street
LONDON EC2Y 9AQ

From: Michelle Darbyshire [#
Sent: 06 November 2018 07:
To: Rebecca Reay ~
Cc: Lisa Toye"

Hi Rebecca,

We are currently working on this but we are struggling for time. When is the absolute deadline for receiving anything we
may find?

Kind Regards
Michelle

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Senior Records & Information Governance Manager
Royal Mail Group

Pond Street, Sheffield, S98. GHR.

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From: Rebecca Rea
Sent: 02 November 2018 12:44

To: Michelle Darbyshire

Cc: Lisa Toye; Johann Appel

Subject: RE: Urgent: Documents required: RMG ARC Minutes from 2010 & 2011

Hi Michelle,

Just wanted to check you had received this and whether there was any update?
Best wishes,

Rebecca

Rebecca Reay
Company Secretarial Administrator

First Floor, Finsbury Dials
20 Finsbury Street
London

EC2Y 9AQ

From: Rebecca Reay

Sent: 01 November 2018 08:44
To: 'Michelle Darbyshire' (~~
Ce: Lisa Toye? “GRO
Subject: RE:

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MG ARC Minutes

Dear Michelle,

As discussed yesterday, we are looking for Royal Mail Group Audit Committee or Audit, Risk & Compliance Committee
(ARC) minutes for meetings that took place during 2010 & 2011. it appears the Post Office Limited Audit, Risk &
Compliance Committee was not formed until 2012 so we believe the relevant information must be in the Royal Mail

Group meeting minutes.

Within these minutes the relevant search terms will be:
* Credence
e Credence IT Controls
@ Credence change controls

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Many thanks in advance.
Best wishes,

Rebecca

Rebecca Reay
Company Secretarial Administrator

First Floor, Finsbury Dials
20 Finsbury Street
London

EC2Y 9AQ

From: Michelle Darbyshire [1
Sent: 31 October 2018 13:41°
To: Rebecca Rea’
Subject: Re: Urgent: Documents required: RMG ARC Minutes from 2010 & 2011

I will call you later.

Sent from my iPhone

On 31 Oct 2018, at 13:39, Rebecca Reay i
Hi Michelle,
Ah, maybe I was given the wrong number.

Thank you for agreeing to look into this. I am sorry to be a pain but it is very urgent (it relates to ongoing
litigation which is currently before the High Court ~ you might have seen it in the news). Are you able to
look into it sooner or ask someone who might be able to do this sooner in your team? Again I apologise
for the late notice - we are working to strict deadlines set as part of the trial process and we have been
struggling to track down these documents as we believed they were at the Postal Museum, but it
appears not.

Thank you in advance.
Best wishes,

Rebecca

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Company Secretarial Administrator

First Floor, Finsbury Dials
20 Finsbury Street
London

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From: Michelle Darbyshire [:
Sent: 31 October 2018 13:13
To: Rebecca Reay
Cc: Lisa Toye <<. GRO >
Subject: Re: Urgent: Documents required: RMG ARC Minutes from 2010 & 2011

Hi Rebecca,

I haven’t received a voicemail from you but I will need time to look into this and locate the records. I am
travelling between sites so will contact you in the next couple of days.

Kind Regards
Michelle

Sent from my iPhone

On 31 Oct 2018, at 13:02, Rebecca Rea { > wrote:

Dear Michelle,

Further to my voicemail, I work at Post Office Limited and we are looking to access the
minutes from the Royal Mail Group Audit, Risk & Compliance Committee meetings from
before the split, namely 2010 & 2011. I was given your details by Jamie Ellul from the
Postal Museum who advised you might be able to help.

Are you able to send me these documents?

Many thanks,

Rebecca

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