POL00114415 - Email chain between Mark R Davies and Belinda Crowe Re: Sparrow

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Belinda Crowe

From: Mark R Davies

Sent: 25 September 2014 08:30

To: Belinda Crowe

Ce: Paula Vennells; Chris Aujard; Belinda Crowe
Subject: Re: Sparrow

Morning

I think Belinda point on bad faith and GE is exactly right. My view remains that we are strong position in relation to
the court of public opinion and are prepared and planning to make this case, in some cases strategically (ie off the
record conversations with key journalists). We won't be able to carry all media with us but I do think we have a
strong and very defensible position.

Best wishes

Mark

Sent from my iPhone

On 25 Sep 2014, at 07:59, "Belinda Crowe" <I

> Hi Paula

> In answer to your questions:

>-~- the case we settled was very complicated as was the settlement. In brief we settled for £20k, 10k of which is
being repaid to us by instalments. There was no Horizon issue, we settled because of a potential legal risk related to
the fact that we did not tell the spmr that there had been suspicions about whether the staff he inherited with the
branch when he took it on had in some way been involved in problems which had caused the previous spmr to be
suspended.

>

>- we didn't settle the other two cases because we found no Horizon related issues and nothing to suggest that the
spmr was not responsible for the loss in branch. There is no appeal against a case that is not resolved and therefore
as far as we are concerned the matter is at an end - it is the end of the road. We consider we had no liability and
there were no grounds for compensation. We have heard nothing more (although with one we have continued to
engage with her as she has produced more copies to transaction documentation to explain it) and do not know
whether they plan any other type of action. One suggested she might join a group action but we are not aware of
such an action. JFSA may try to organise something further down the line but we know from Linklaters that it would
be difficult to organise. We have no other sense of how not settling might play out at this stage although we may
get more of a sense later as more cases go through the Scheme. It's something we keep under review but do not
know what if anything JFSA may be planning).

>

>- Tony's reaction to substandard work. He has sent SS away to revisit a case recently where they were inconclusive
and he did not feel their report provide the WG with a basis for making a decision on mediation but generally has
shown little appetite for addressing the general point. I do not think he considers it his role. See below.

>

>- It was me who suggested that would be little would be gained from Alice meeting Tony. It is difficult to gauge
exactly where he is on this but my assessment would be its a mixture of:

> * they are probably not capable of much more

> * trying to improve the quality of their work would slow down the process even more (he asked them to revisit
case reports in the early days, and once recently but it just creates delay)

> * as long as they are producing a conclusion and recommendation on which the WG can make a decision that's
probably enough

> * they have the support of MPs and JFSA and therefore we need to make the best of it and get on with it

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>* itis a matter for PO insofar as we disagree with the findings

>

> Sorry, these are random thoughts, little more than speculation, but I suspect his view is a combination of this.
Overall I think he is playing the hand he has been dealt and that's all he can do. He is not easily persuadable and
regardless of who in PO speaks to him, he treats us as a party to the cases and is increasing unsympathetic to what
he considers lobbying at this stage in the process. That's not a compelling reason, I know.

>

> On the matter of bad faith and the GE (and I have copied Mark who may want to add something), we are putting a
great deal of effort into trying to position everything so that a reasonable person would see that we are behaving
responsibly (Alice's steer about the court of public opinion). We have some high profile cases coming through now
and it could be that the bad faith issue is out of the way early (or the worst of it). However we keep this under
review with comms and consider it manageable. There are a number of steps we can take with MPs if necessary,
especially going through their cases with them if necessary to show how thorough our investigations have been and
explain the results. In the run up to the GE we do what we would in any event, concentrate on all the positive steps
we have taken to improve the network so that the context for this is that it’s a small number of cases in the scheme
of things which have surfaced no problems with Horizon.

>

> am not sure how reassuring this is but we have always known this would be tricky but that we can and will
manage it and it is only greatly disruptive or newsworthy is we find a problem, which we have not as yet.

>

> Best wishes

> Belinda Crowe

>

> Belinda Crowe

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> -----Original Message-----

> From: Paula Vennells

> Sent: 24 September 2014 20:22

>To: Belinda Crowe

> Cc: Chris Aujard

> Subject: Sparrow

>

> Belinda, just in case you and Chris are not called to the Board tomorrow - it's a heavy agenda before you come in -
lanticipate the following questions. Could you give me a few brief answers, in case I have to field it quickly.

> © 3 cases mediated - what (£s) did we settle and why?

> © Why did we not settle the other two? What happens - presumably nothing as it is the end of the road. So have
they gone quiet? le., are there any pointers as to how 'not settling’ may play out?

> © what is Tony's reaction SS substandard work? "It is what i ?? If Alice or a NED say she should have a chat with
him etc what is our response? (I know Chris feels she shouldn't go but this might be seen as a reason as to why she
should.) * Mark's view on. Handling the coincidence of 'bad faith' publicity and the GE?

>

> Thanks - i do hope you will called in, the Board should be pleased with progress. It would be nice for them to say,
so.

>

> Paula

>

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Belinda Crowe

From: Alwen Lyons

Sent: 24 September 2014 13:31

To: aliceperkins¢, leil McCausla =
virginia.holmes GRO ____!timfranklinli_ GRO __ Alasdair Marnoch’; Callard
Richard (ShEx); Paula Vennells; Chris M Day

Cc: Alwen Lyons; Mark R Davies; Chris Aujard; Belinda Crowe

Subject: Sparrow - Board note

Please find below a note from Mark

Thanks
Alwen

Dear all

Further to the updates Chris and I have been providing about Second Sight's "Part Two" report, we have now issued
our detailed response to the Report to the recipients of Part Two report.

Our working assumption is that as Second Sight’s report was passed to the media, ours will be too. As before, we
are well prepared for this eventuality and plan to take the same position as last time. That is that passing
confidential documents prepared for the purpose of mediation is highly regrettable and not in interests of
applicants.

As before, we will try to make no further comment and if pushed will keep our comments to a minimum. It is
essential we hold on that position to avoid giving the story unnecessary oxygen. The media outlets that ran the
story last time may pick up on this again.

{ will monitor the situation closely and update you if the position changes.

Best wishes
Mark

Mark Davies I Communications and Corporate Affairs Director

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