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From: Jarnail A Singh [/o=MMS/ou=Exchange Administrative Group
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Sent: 16/07/2012 16:19:38
To: Hugh Flemington [/o=MMS/ou=Exchange Administrative Group
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Subject: RE: CASE NO 21392 - Prosecution v K Wylie -
Hugh-- FYI--This case deals with the old Horizon system (the old system being relevant in this case due to the period of
wrong doing).
Jarnail
From: Jarnail A Singh
Sent: 16 July 2012 14:26
To: Hugh Flemington
Cc: Susan Crichton; Alwen Lyons
Subject: RE: CASE NO 21392 - Prosecution v K Wylie
You read my mind I have these written down and very briefly spoke with Susan. I need briefing on these points.
Jarnail.
From: Hugh Flemington
Sent: 16 July 2012 14:20
To: Jarnail A Singh
Cc san Crichton; Alwen Lyons
Subject: RE: CASE NO 21392 - Prosecution v K Wylie
One for our 3.30 meeting I think.
J- assume your recommendation hasn’t changed and is still to keep fighting any such application? issues appear to be:
1. Comms brief needed to rebut the myths / untrue reporting about an Sight review.
2. Clarity re 2° Sight terms of reference, timetable etc.
3. Aplan/ bible of what information we are going to provide (a} our legal teams and (b) the courts if we have to
fight applications to stay.
4. Plan to deal with disclosure requests. E.g. how we balance obtaining Transaction Logs and other Horizon data
alongside the costs of doing so.
From: Jarnail A Singh
Sent: 16 July 2012 13:00
To: Hugh Flemington
Cc: Susan Crichton
Subject: RE: CASE NO 21392 - Prosecution v K Wylie
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Hugh /Susan are you happy with our stance or do you want to make additions or amends .Also can I confirm this to
Andy Cash.
Thanks. Jarnail
From: Jarnail A Singh
Sent: 16 July 2012 11:21
To: Hugh Flemington
Cc: Susan Crichton
Subject: RE: CASE NO 21392 - Prosecution v K Wylie
This was H. M.M.Bowyers advice which was forwarded to you on the 11" July. I will sent again.
Jarnail
From: Hugh Flemington
Sent: 16 July 2012 11:12
To: Jarnail A Singh
Cc: Susan Crichton
Subject: RE: CASE NO 21392 - Prosecution v K Wylie
What’s the reference to the view taken by Counsel?
Do we have a counsel acting for POL saying we should agree to stay requests?
From: Andy Cash [mailio:4_
Sent: 16 July 2012 11:02
To: Jarnail A Singh
Cc: Susan Crichton; Hugh Flemington; Harry Bowyer
Subject: RE: CASE NO 21392 - Prosecution v K Wylie
Jarnail,
Thanks for this. Do we take it that we "resist" defence requests in the terms of your email? I would
like formal confirmation bearing in mind the view taken by counsel. If further consultation with
Harry or otherwise would assist please let me know. I will need to reply to Kim Wylie's solicitors this
week.
Regards
Andy
From: Jarnail A Singh [mai
Sent: 16 July 2012 09:55
To: Andy Cash
Cc: Susan Crichton; Hugh Flemington
Subject: RE: CASE NO 21392 - Prosecution v K Wylie
Andy.
Thank you.
lagree Defence will approach to stay the prosecution until the review by second sight is completed will
become increasingly common. Post office view is that such an approach be resisted. Review to be conducted is
limited in scope in few and isolated cases . Second sight would work with a number of MP’s(two at present) to review
cases that have been raised by their constituents. Second sights appointment is presently being agreed with the MPs and
justice for sub postmasters .There is no legal or forensic grounds to argue defendants will not get fair trial or
abuse of process. There is no reason to justify the case being stayed, The fact that the review is being carried
out is not an acknowledgment that there is an issue with Horizon ,the system working properly and is being
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used up and down the country. when the system has been challenged in criminal courts has been successfully
defended. There is no mileage in this position but is in fact superficial.
Regards
Jarnail singh
From: Andy Cash [mailto:f GRO
Sent: 11 July 2012 12:22
To: Jarnail A Singh
Subject: CASE NO 21392 - Prosecution v K Wylie
Dear Jarnail,
Tenclose advice from Harry Bowyer. I know it will be unpalatable, but for what it may be worth I
share his view. In the instant case, our response must be dependent on time scales for completion of
the inspection. We are only just beginning to see these issues raised by defence solicitors and the
sooner we grasp the problem the better. If you want any more do call, otherwise I will await the
outcome of your consultations before responding to the defence.
sincerely,
Andy Cash
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