POL00146548 - Email chain between High Flemington and others Re: Experts Horizon issues

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From: Hugh Flemington [IMCEAEX-
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Sent: 07/10/2013 14:39:23

To: Alwen Lyons

Subject:Re: Experts Horizon issues

Rod knows
Jarnail would be affected - je i will check if he knows

From: Alwen Lyons

Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 02:38 PM
To: Hugh Flemington

Subject: RE: Experts Horizon issues

You need to tell Jarnail and Rodric then

From: Hugh Flemington

Sent: 07 October 2013 15:36

To: Lesley J] Sewell; Alwen Lyons

Cc: Rodric Williams; Susan Crichton; 'Andrew.Parsons:
Subject: Fw: Experts Horizon issues

Susan was minded to slow this down: Brian Altman (our uber gc) may recormmend that POL cease prosecuting
altogether - therefore why waste the time and money committing to this person. This piece of work is not widely known
within POL.

From: Jarnail A Singh

Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 01:32 PM

To: Hugh Flemington; Alwen Lyons; Lesley ] Sewell

Cc: Larissa Wilson; Rodric Williams; Angela Van-Den-Bogerd
Subject: Re: Experts Horizon issues

Hugh. Best to ask Simon Clarke of CK who was present at Icl and attended the meeting with Expert and is very
experience criminal counsel and dealt with vast number of POL Horizon issues.

From: Hugh Flemington

Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 01:25 PM

To: Alwen Lyons; Jarnail A Singh; Lesley ] Sewell

Cc: Larissa Wilson; Rodric Williams; Angela Van-Den-Bogerd
Subject: RE: Experts Horizon issues

I wouldn’t know but I can ask CK or the new GC what they think.

Hugh Flemington I Head of Legal

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From: Alwen Lyons

Sent: 07 October 2013 14:18

To: Jarnail A Singh; Lesley J Sewell

Cc: Larissa Wilson; Hugh Flemington; Rodric Williams; Angela Van-Den-Bogerd
Subject: RE: Experts Horizon issues

Jarnail

i think Lesley and Hugh should sign this off. Lesley from an IT perspective, that these CVs will mean they will understand
and be able to explain Horizon. And Hugh to say whether their background will be creditable in Court

Thanks
Alwen

From: Jarnail A Singh

Sent: 02 October 2013 11:52

To: Alwen Lyons

Cc: Larissa Wilson; Hugh Flemington; Rodric Williams
Subject: FW:Experts Horizon issues

Alwen

For criminal prosecution and Civil litigation cases it is is essential for Post office to instruct expert witness to
produce expert reports on the impact of second sights interim report on the Horizon system. Please find
attached both CV from Professor Kramer and Professor Dulay from Imperial college London who have agreed
to undertake the expert witness work. Please let me know who has to sign this off in terms of exco and the
board.

Thank you.

Jarnail Singh I Criminal Lawyer

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From: Jarnail A Singh

Sent: 01 October 2013 16:57
To: Hugh Flemington

Cc: Rodric Williams

Subject: FW: Professor Kramer

Hugh

Please find attached both CV from Professor Kramer and Professor Dulay from Imperial college London who
have agreed to undertake the expert witness work. We need to consider how we going to progress this with
Fujitsu and board before further meeting. I understand Andy Parsons and Rodric are dealing with the Non-
disclosure issues with the Martin Smith for both expert to agree to.

Jarnail Singh I Criminal Lawyer

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From: martin smith [mailt
Sent: 01 October 2013 14:21

To: Jarnail A Singh

Cc: Rodric Williams; ‘Parsons, Andrew'
Subject: Professor Kramer

Dear All,
Please find attached an e-mail received from Professor Kramer containing his CV.

You will see from the summary on page 1 of his lengthy CV that he has previously worked with
Fujitsu. I asked how long ago that was and have been informed that it was over twenty years ago as
part of a research project.
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Martin.

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