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My thoughts...
A key question appears to be whether ICL look at old Horizon as well as Horizon Online. My guess is that POL won't
be now looking to prosecute any old Horizon cases so we can focus on HOL. Martin / Jarnail?
As to access to the SS material, I can't see in principle any issue with this. Material going to SS has been largely
vetted already. However, Martin / Jarnail — could you confirm whether an expert under criminal law has to disclose all i
material instructions / source material in their report? In the civil process, the general rule is that the expert must i
disclose to the Court and the other side pretty much everything they have considered in forming their opinion. If this
applies equally to criminal procedure, then CK / POL may wish to vet any material before sending it to ICL.
We may want to explore what ICL intend to investigate under the "fitness for purpose" heading. This could be as
simple as "does Horizon provide the necessary functionality?". Or, it could go wider into "Does Horizon provide a
good user experience?". From handling IT disputes in the past, I know that determining the quality of user experience
can be a very subjective question, that is difficult to answer. I
Finally, I think the structure proposed by ICL really highlights the deficiencies in SS' approach. ;
Kind regards
Andy
Andrew Parsons
Senior Associate
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From: Jarnail Singh [mailto; _
Sent: 08 July 2014 16:19
To: Andy Holt; Chris Aujard; Jessica Madron; Rodric Williams; Parsons, Andrew; Belinda Crowe
Cc: Martin Smith
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Andy
Thanks.
It is perhaps inevitable Imperial college London’s experts would wish to speak to Fujitsu directly . Please let me have
the name and contact of the person who will be designated by Fujitsu to speak to the experts.
1am keen to avoid further delay. The proposed report represents good value for money and would be extremely
useful for POL purposes. Sooner we can demonstrate the system works the better.
Regards
Jarnail
Jarnail Singh I Criminal Lawyer
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From: Andy Holt
Sent: 08 July 2014 12:46
To: Jarnail Singh; Chris Aujard; Jessica Madron; Rodric Williams; Parsons, Andrew; Belinda Crowe
Ce: Martin Smith
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Belinda/Andy, some of the requests relate to the Second Sights study (which would include MP cases, spot reviews
etc). Are we ok to share this information?
Jarnail, I will share this document with both Fujitsu and within IT so that we assess what ICL are requesting.
Regards
Andy
From: Jarnail Singh
Sent: 04 July 2014 13:38
To: Chris Aujard; Jessica Madron; Rodric Williams; Andy Holt; Parsons, Andrew
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Dear All
Please find attached the initial review prepared by professor Kramer and Dr Dulay of London imperial college
consultants.
The initial review contains a proposal which is through and outlines the steps the steps to be taken and
documentation to be considered. There is a proposed work plan on page 4. As you will see it is estimated that it will
take 50 hours consultant days by Professor Kramer and Dr Dulay to complete the work.
Before we proceed with the next step, may I ascertain whether there is any views or observations or questions on
the attached documents.
regards
Jarnail Singh I Criminal Lawyer
148 Old Street, LONDON, EC1V 9HQ
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