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From: Mark Raymondf_
Sent: Wed 19/04/2017 2:07:53 PM (UTC)
To: Rodric Williams? —
Ce: Simon I Hutchii s Helen
Dickinson.
Subject: FW: Horizon Issues- Strangford case
Hi Rodric,
Simon Hutchinson our Security Manager in NI, has been summoned to attend Crown Court on the 7" June. Could we
please have some direction with how to respond if/when the issue of Horizon integrity is raised.
Thank you
Regards
Mark
Mark Raymond
/_- Head of Security Operations
& Post Office Limited
Finsbury Dials
20 Finsbury Street
London
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From: Simon I Hutchinson
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 12:21 PM
To: Mark Raymond; Helen Dickinson
Subject: RE: Horizon Issues
Mark/Helen
Just to confirm that I have been summoned to attend Crown Court on 7" June 17 re the
Strangford Case.
Regards
Simon
Simon I Hutchinson
Security Manager
Brent House
15 Heron Road
From: Mark Raymond
Sent: 10 April 2017 16:39
To: Helen Dickinson < GRO_ “>
Ce: Simon I Hutchinson
Subject: RE: Horizon Issues
Hi Helen,
Rodric is away until 18", I will pick it up with him then.
Mark
Mark Raymond
Head of Security Operations
Finsbury Dials
20 Finsbury Street
London
From: Helen Dickinson
Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2017 12:06 PM
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To: Rodric Williams
Cc: Shirley Hailstones; Mark Raymond
Subject: FW: Horizon Issues
Hi Rodric,
I have picked this up on my return.
Can you please advise further.
Many thanks
Helen Dickinson
Post Office Ltd Security
From: Simon I Hutchinson
Sent: 05/04/2017 12:02
To: Helen Dickinson
Subject: Horizon Issues
Helen
As discussed; I have recently been asked by both the PSNI and the Public Prosecution Service
(PPS) to comment on the POL Horizon system as the integrity of the system has been raised
by the alleged offender in the Drumantee case as she is being prosecuted by the Police. The
now retired SPMR of Drumantee is also now querying the system and he was required to stand
the loss in this theft case.
My response to the PSNI IO in the Drumantee case was as follows (21/3/17) = ‘Regarding our
recent discussion and in terms of the integrity of the Post Office Horizon system, I can again
confirm that Post Office Ltd are absolutely confident in the integrity of the Horizon system and
if any person has any specific issues or complaints about the system then that/those matters
should be raised so that they can be addressed in an appropriate manor’.
I am now to be summoned to attend Crown Court as a POL witness (expert) in the Strangford
case and I can imagine that the Horizon issue will be raised by the defence barrister,
subsequently can I ask that the matter is raised in order to allow myself, and others placed in
a similar position, to have a business legal response.
Below is a recent e mail trail concerning the matter!
I’ve just left you a voicemail. Can you please give me a call back when you get a moment - 07436546824.
Thanks, Rodric
From: Wayne Z Griffiths
Sent: 06 February 2017 10:09
To: Rodric Williams
Ce: Simon I Hutchinson
Subject: FW: Drumantee Police liaison case — POLTD/1415/0102
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Hi Rodric,
I was wondering if you’re in a position to respond to my previous email (below) yet?
Kind Regards
Wayne
From: Wayne Z Griffiths
Sent: 25 January 2017
To: Rodric Williams <}
Cc: Simon I Hutchinson ; Sharron Logan
Subject: FW: Drumantee Police liaison case — POLTD/1415/0102
Hi Rodric,
Please see email trail below, I’m hoping you can assist with the provision of a report re Horizon?
If you need any further information about this specific case Simon can provide.
Many thanks
Wayne
Wayne Griffiths
Security Programme Manager
Post Office Security team
4 Floor, 120 Bark Street
Bolton BL1 2AX
From: Shirley Hailstones
Sent: 25 January 2017 1:
To: Wayne Z Griffiths <
Ce: Simon I Hutchinson
Subject: RE: Drumantee Police liaison case — POLTD/1415/0102
Hi Wayne
There is a standard response, but best that you get this from legal (Rodric Williams) giving the current legal situ.
I’m sure Rod will be able to advise.
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Manager
Post Office Limited
Guildhall, 57 Queen St
Glasgow
G1 3AT
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From: Wayne Z Griffiths
Sent: 25 January 2017 13:43
To: Shirley Hailstones ¢
Ce: Simon I Hutchinson <j. ; Sharron Logan <
Subject: FW: Drumantee Police liaison case — POLTD/1415/0102
Hi Shirley,
Not sure if you’re aware of this case in N.Ireland (see Simons email below)?
It appears the PPS are after us providing a report re the Horizon ‘glitches’. I seem to recall that Fujitsu have provide
something like this in the past (I think), refuting such allegations; I just wondered if we had a standard response
document that we could provide in instances like this?
Many thanks
Wayne
. Wayne Griffiths
Security Programme Manager
Post Office Security team
4” Floor, 120 Bark Street
Bolton BL1 2AX
From: Simon I Hutchinson
Sent: 25 January 2017 13:37
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To: Wayne Z Griffiths
Ce: Sharron Logan <_ E
Subject: Drumantee Police liaison case — POLTD/1415/0102
Wayne
As discussed — Drumantee Police liaison case — POLTD/1415/0102, the Police investigating officer has made the
following enquiry:
It has taken the Public Prosecution Service (PPS) a year to make a direction on this case! Iam now ina position to
inform you that the trial of Patricia FEGAN is set and in their usual fashion the PPS have today requested a list of
queries to be answered ASAP.
The last time I spoke to you, you were not able to supply us with a report re the glitches in the ‘Horizon system’. Are
you ina position now to supply any kind of report re this? Lastly what are the Post Office’s view on this
investigation? The PPS are confused why Damien McGenity (SPMR) had to and did pay the shortfall if this was
reported as a theft by his staff.
Patricia FEGAN appeared in court yesterday (24/1/17) and plead not guilty with her defence barrister discussing the
reported difficulties with the Post Offices Horizon system!
Regards
Simon
Simon I Hutchinson
Security Manager
Brent House
15 Heron Road
Belfast BT3 9LE
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