SUBS0000075 Closing Submissions - Department for Business and Trade (DBT)

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IN THE MATTER OF THE INQUIRIES ACT 2005
AND IN THE MATTER OF THE INQUIRY RULES 2006
THE POST OFFICE HORIZON IT INQUIRY
CLOSING STATEMENT OF
THE DEPARTMENT FOR BUSINESS AND TRADE
INTRODUCTION
1. The Post Office exists to provide public service to communities across the UK. For

centuries it has been a cherished and trusted institution at the heart of our national
life — and thanks to its postmasters up and down the country it can be again. Against
this backdrop, the prolonged conduct of the Post Office as an organisation — and
that of a number of its key people — during the course of this scandal is particularly
deplorable and in many aspects hard to understand and explain. Through its actions.
over many years, the Post Office devastated many good people’s lives — it destroyed
reputations, caused financial ruin, brought about the imprisonment of innocent
people, weakened and divided families and communities, and in some especially tragic

cases drove people to suicide.

2. The painful reality is that the Government failed to prevent the Post Office from
doing these things. At the start of this closing statement, the Department! would
therefore like to reiterate its profound regret that an institution of which it is sole
shareholder and for which it is ultimately responsible and accountable was able to act

as it did over so many years. For that it is sincerely sorry.

' For simplicity, “the Department” refers to the existing Department for Business and Trade and
its predecessors (BIS, BEIS etc).
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3. Since the scandal was exposed, the Department has worked hard and in good faith
to make good the losses — both financial and emotional — suffered by postmasters.*
The Department apologises wholeheartedly for the fact that, despite those efforts,
redress has not come as quickly to all of the victims of this scandal as they deserved,
after the many years of damage, upset and trauma caused by the Post Office’s actions.
And it is acutely conscious that the list of those who have tragically passed away

before receiving full and fair redress continues to grow.

4, The Government set up this independent Inquiry to get to the truth, identify failings,
and — critically — to make recommendations in the interests of preventing a repeat of
this appalling scandal. As the Department has stated publicly on several occasions,
including in its opening statement to this Inquiry, it is essential that the right lessons
are learned and remembered. The Department will continue to make sure that where

change is needed it is implemented.

5. As part of that process — and as promised in its opening statement to this Inquiry —
the Department has sought at all times to provide all possible assistance to the
Inquiry, and has maintained its commitment to openness, self-reflection and co-
operation throughout. In addition, it has supported and facilitated a large number of
witnesses, including eight Secretaries of State, eleven Ministers and four Permanent
Secretaries, in providing their frank accounts of the role of government together with
their mature thoughts on what went wrong and how to improve the government

machine for the future.

6. Consistently with that approach, this closing statement is intended to identify the key
events and decisions with which the Department was involved where it now appears
mistakes were made. It also seeks to identify how those mistakes came about, offers

some considered reflections, and identifies possible lessons to be learned.

7. As foreshadowed in its opening statement to the Inquiry, the Department has sought

to assist the Inquiry in relation to the themes, issues and questions arising in:

° This refers to both sub-postmasters and -mistresses.
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a. Phase 2, which concerns the procurement, design, pilot and roll out of and

modifications to the Horizon system.

b. Phase 5, which concerns redress, access to justice, Second Sight, Complaint
Review and the Mediation Scheme, the conduct of the group litigation,

responding to the scandal and redress schemes.

c. Phase 6, which concerns governance arrangements, including monitoring of
Horizon, contractual arrangements, internal and external audit, technical

competence, stakeholder engagement, oversight and whistleblowing.

d. Phase 7, which concerns current practice and procedure and recommendations

for the future.

8. Having made a written? closing statement in relation to Phase 2 of the Inquiry, the
Department limits this closing statement to the issues explored in Phases 5-7; of
course, this closing statement should be read and considered in conjunction with the

Department's closing statement in Phase 2.
9. The structure of this closing statement is as follows:
a. Organisational structure and accountability (pages 5-35)
b. Where should the Government have acted differently? (pages 36-58)
c. Why did the Government not act differently? (pages 59-76)

d. How does governance and oversight of the Post Office work now? (pages 77-
81)

e. Redress (pages 82-89)
f. Reflections and possible recommendations for the future (pages 90-94)

g. Conclusion (page 95)

> $UBS0000017. Throughout this statement, references to witness statements are in the form
[surname, paragraph numberI; references to documents use the Inquiry’s unique reference number
(c.g. INQ0001234); and references to the transcript of oral hearings are in the form
[date/witness/page/line]. Witnesses are referred to using their current titles, rather than their titles
at the material time.
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10. The Department hopes that this closing statement, together with its oral closing
statement, will be of value to the Inquiry in its work and looks forward to receiving

the Inquiry’s report and recommendations.
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ORGANISATIONAL STRUCTURE AND ACCOUNTABILITY

11. This section is arranged under the following sub-headings:

(1) The “arm’s length” model;

(2) The strategic / operational divide;

(3) Scrutiny, governance, oversight and accountability — the pyramidal structure;
(4) Managing risks in a complex environment;

(5) The importance of trust;

(6) Duty of candour;

(7) More general legal and regulatory controls;

(8) The role of Ministers in scrutinising information and advice.

The “arm’s length” model

12. Since 1969, the Post Office has been a public corporation at “arm’s length” from
Government, initially in the form of a statutory corporation. This was explained to
Parliament by, for example, the Rt Hon. Kim Howells, Parliamentary Under-

Secretary of State for Trade and Industry, in a debate on 21 July 1999:4

“Since the Post Office was established as a public corporation in 1969, it has been the policy
of successive Governments that decisions relating to the day-to-day running of the postal
businesses, such as the contractual terms and the arrangements between sub-postmasters and
Post Office Counters Ltd., are the operational responsibility of the Post Office Board and
management. The Government's role in Post Office matters is confined to broad issues of
general policy and to overall financial control. With a network of some 18,000 sub-post offices,

it would be inappropriate and impractical for Government or Ministers to become involved in

decisions or disputes relating to individual offices.”

13, When the state monopoly was removed and the postal services market opened up to

commercial pressures, new technologies, markets and competition offered both

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threats and opportunities for the Post Office. In response to this, the 1997 Labour
manifesto contained a commitment to give the Post Office “greater commercial freedom
to make the most of new opportunities’. In July 1999, the Government published a White
Paper® setting out detailed proposals for reform of the Post Office which, as the
Trade and Industry Select Committee noted in its report of 21 September 1999°,
received a warm reception. The Government moved to give effect to these reforms
through the Postal Services Bill which, following the ordinary process of democratic
scrutiny, debate and amendment, Parliament chose to enact as the Postal Services

Act 2000.7

14, The intended nature of the Government’s role in the Post Office, post-2000 Act, was
explained to Parliament in clear terms on a number of occasions prior to the Act’s
legislative passage. For example, on 7 December 1998, the Secretary of State Lord

Mandelson stated*:

“The Government's role in the Post Office will be restricted to the strategic level, both on
matters of commercial direction and on setting social objectives. The Post Office board will

become clearly accountable for its success or failure in running the business.”

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And on 8 July 1999, the Secretary of State Stephen Byers stated?:

“Although the Government will set out clear objectives for the Post Office, they will not be
involved in day-to-day business operations. The Post Office Board will be responsible for
running the Post Office, based on a rolling five-year strategic plan, which will be agreed with
the Government. Clear duties, real powers and necessary resources to promote consumer
interests will be given to the independent regulator and the users council. Annual reports will
be published by the Government, the Post Office, the regulator and the users council on their

roles and performance during the year.”

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16. It is therefore evident that the “arm’s length” nature of the relationship between the
central Government shareholder and the Post Office — and the fact that the Post
Office would have operational independence free of government interference — was
a specific and intentional design feature, and one which Parliament had clearly

decided to maintain and strengthen going forward.

17. The reasons why the “‘arm’s length” model was thought to be appropriate are clear,
and have been addressed by several witnesses. The point is perhaps most neatly
summarised in Mark Russell’s witness statement” (see, especially, paragraphs 18-21):
in essence, central Government is not good at running these things and, whilst the

“arm’s length” model has some downsides, it is the best model available.

18. As several witnesses have explained, the Post Office is not an “Arm’s Length Body”
(or ALB) in capital letters under the formal Office for National Statistics (ONS)
classification regime; indeed, it is too independent from the Government to be
categorised as an ALB. According to the ONS’s national account system, Post Office
is a “public corporation” — the most independent version of a public body. A number
of witnesses described this to signify a “particularly long arm” compared with other
bodies, in other words the management, governance and oversight structure is highly

devolved from central Government.'! Mark Russell explained: !*

“This devolved governance model is intended to enable more efficient delivery of public services.
A core tenet of the classification is the ability of the Public Corporation to have "appropriate
levels of freedom to exercise commercial judgements, with appropriate delegated authority

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arrangements that protect Departments.

19. Mark Russell explained the good policy rationale for adopting a model where the

Government is kept at such a distance:!%

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“It is not simply a consequence of being a Public Corporation that neither the Secretary of
State, nor the Department for Business and Trade ("DBT"), nor the Minister, nor ShEx /
UKGI, acting on their behalf, has direct responsibility for POL day-to-day operational or
contractual matters. This is instead a specific objective. It is a safeguard against central
Government micromanagement which is likely to lack. the necessary expertise and experience

and be vulnerable to potential political conflicts of interest.”

20. The “arm’s length” model was accompanied by an associated lack of teeth enabling
the Department to insert itself into the Post Office’s decision-making at the sub-
strategic level. The Post Office’s articles of association changed over time, and
included some powers of appointment and the nuclear option of dismissal of board
members, but did not give the Department hard and immediate levers of control over
the Post Office at the relevant time (most obviously when the Post Office was
considering applying to recuse Fraser J and for permission to appeal in the GLO.

proceedings).

21, There was a high degree of consensus between witnesses that the “arm’s length”

model remains the right one. The Department agrees that, for so long as the

Government continues to own the Post Office, the “arm’s length” model is the only

sensible option, Direct management by central Government would bring different
and substantially more serious problems. However, as the Inquiry knows,
consideration is being given to fundamental questions about the future corporate

structure of the Post Office.

The strategic / operational divide

22. This devolved “arm’s length” arrangement was therefore designed to enable
Ministers to shape the strategy of the company whilst leaving its executive and board

to run it.

23. It is, however, clear that the strategic / operational divide implicit in this type of
“arm’s length” structure is not a bright line rule to be observed by force of law. In
reality there is a spectrum, or continuum. It is therefore regrettable (to say the least)

that on frequent occasions, especially in the early days, ShEx / UKGI officials gave
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unnuanced advice to Ministers which treated the strategic /operational divide as

inflexible dogma and, in turn, prepared draft letters for Ministers on similar lines.

However, as a principled starting point, the presumption that Ministers should set

the strategy but stay away from operational matters was the right one.

From a practical perspective, the government has vast responsibilities and Ministers
are few in number. They do not have time to immerse themselves in operational
matters at commercial organisations like the Post Office. The gov.uk website
currently lists no fewer than 423 agencies and other public bodies.'* Though few are
as large and complex as the Post Office, some sort of responsibility for each of them
must be divided among the hundred or so Ministers, who are of course also
accountable for the functions of their own department and all the policy matters for
which it is responsible, together with Parliamentary and constituency work. For
example, in addition to the Post Office, the current Minister Gareth Thomas also has
responsibility for the British Business Bank and Small Business Commissioner, local
growth, small businesses, scale-ups, the retail and hospitality sector, professional and
business services, access to finance, Ukraine reconstruction, export strategy (plus the
export support service and UK Export Finance), outward direct investment, trade
missions, shows and campaigns (including the UK’s contribution to the World Expo
2025 in Osaka, Japan) and trade envoys'’. Every other Minister has a similarly broad
portfolio of responsibilities, and a similarly extremely busy schedule. They have no
choice but to be highly selective in their focus, and it is generally sensible that they
should put their energy into steering strategy rather than attempting to get involved

in matters of detail.

Aside from the practicalities, a strategic approach is desirable as a matter of principle.
This is essentially for three reasons. First, running a business like the Post Office is
difficult. It demands a particular commercial skill-set and experience, which Ministers

can rarely claim to possess. Ministers bring different values and attributes —

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democratic legitimacy, breadth of experience, common sense, and a direct connection

to and understanding of the views and wishes of the British public.

27. Second, Mark Russell was right to observe that there is a potential conflict (or,
perhaps more accurately, a perception of conflict) of interest to guard against, most
obviously a theoretical temptation for Ministers to make operational decisions for

partisan reasons.

28. Third, the management and board of the Post Office can only perform their roles
efficiently if they have confidence that they are not at risk of having every decision
second guessed from above. As Sir Martin Donnelly explained, “when you have the level
of complexity that we were dealing with, you have to be able to empower people to take decisions and
follow them through in a structure, because otherwise you're not going to get effective outcomes or value
for money”.'6 In addition, it would be harder to attract and retain the best talent in
management and governance roles if they are concerned about being second-guessed

from above instead of being allowed to get on with their jobs.'7

29, A strategic approach also fits with the legal structure of any Companies Act company.
Intervention in operational matters creates legal risks, for instance, through Ministers
becoming “shadow directors” and thereby assuming the duties of a director with the
attendant personal liability but without the benefit of directors’ and officers’ liability
insurance. (The Inquiry will no doubt consider the Rt Hon. Greg Clark’s suggestion
— adopted by the Institute of Directors (loD)!8 — that the solution to this is some

form of new “public interest company” corporate structure.)

30. However, none of this appears to have dissuaded Ministers from involving
themselves whenever they thought it appropriate. They appeared to understand
clearly that, whilst the default position was that the Post Office would operate free

from government interference, there was no absolute bar to Ministers intervening if

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" See Gratton (WITN11310100); 7 November 2024/Gratton/9/2 (INQ00001203)

'S IoD Policy Paper: The Post Office Scandal — A failure of governance, October 2024
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circumstances justified it.!? A number of witnesses referred to this as “the arm
shortening””?, as happened as Ministers’ concerns about Horizon mounted over time.

Put another way, where Ministers saw the need to get involved, they did so.

Scrutiny, governance, oversight and accountability — the pyramidal structure

31. An inherent — and indeed intended — consequence of the “arm’s length” model
chosen for the Post Office is that the Department is towards the top of a pyramidal

governance and accountability structure, with several tiers below.

32. The precise oversight structure has changed over time and reflects (amongst other
things) an evolution in the way all public corporations are managed by or for
Government.?! Decades ago, governance and oversight was simply another policy
function of Government, delivered by the relevant department. Culminating around
the turn of the 21* Century, there was an increasing recognition that the absence of
a specialist corporate governance and corporate finance infrastructure — and the
dearth of specialist staff — within the Government meant that departments were not
operating as effective shareholders. If state-owned industries were going to survive
and thrive, Government needed to adopt the same sort of expertise and focus
exhibited by private sector shareholders. This initially led to the formation of ShEx
in 2003, providing expert corporate finance and governance services to shareholders
across Government. ShEx was initially a business unit within the Cabinet Office,
becoming a specialist directorate within the Department in 2004, whereafter it
continued to provide support to Government departments across Whitehall. In 2016,
ShEx’s functions and staff were transferred to UKGI, a private limited company

wholly owned by the Treasury (and itself an “arm’s length” body, with an executive

” Bg. 19 July 2024/Swinson/6/14 (INQ00001178)
29 July 2024/Swannell/131/4 (INQ00001171)

*! See the comprehensive explanations of how the governance arrangements for the Post Office
were intended to work and how this varied over time from the Department’s perspective in the
first and second statements of Gareth Davies (the current Permanent Secretary) (WITN11020100;
WITN11020200), and in the statements of his three predecessors in the role: Sir Martin Donnelly
(WITN11250100), Sir Alex Chisholm (WITN00180100) and Sarah Munby (WITN11520200).

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team, fiduciary board and so on). ShEx was, and UKGI is, the UK Government’s
“centre of excellence” for corporate finance and corporate governance. The facts of
this scandal do not change the Department’s view that the existence of such a centre

of excellence within Government is essential.

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On the separation of the Post Office from Royal Mail in 2012, a shareholder
representative (an official from ShEx), referred to as the Shareholder NED, was
appointed as a non-executive director on the Post Office board. This was an
innovation in the governance of public corporations, and a structurally important
development in the governance of the Post Office. It was intended to give the
Department as shareholder direct eyes and ears on the board, plus a direct
opportunity to influence board-level discussions and scrutinise and challenge the
executive management. The Shareholder NED role remains crucially important to
this day, notwithstanding the greater role that the Department has played since 2018
following the creation of the Post Office policy team — it remains the case that UKGI
acts as the Department’s corporate governance advisor and representative on the
Post Office fiduciary board. (The Department has noted, however, that some
concerns have been raised about the Shareholder NED function and the possibility
that this “two-hatted” role may create a (perception of) conflict and resulting
uncertainty. The IoD has, for instance, suggested that consideration should be given
to replacing the Shareholder NED approach with “sore of an arm length stewardship
role” 22)

34. Despite these incremental changes to the corporate governance structure, the
fundamental relationship between the Post Office and the Government has remained
constant, and is shared with other public corporations. In short, the Government sets
the strategic framework within which the corporation operates, such as its goals and
governance. It determines how much it is prepared to invest in the company, and
how much to subsidise any non-commercial activities. This framework is well-

documented. Within it, the company’s management and board have freedom to run

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the organisation without interference from the Government, and are bound by the

same Companies Act rules which apply to other businesses.

35. Responsibility for the Post Office’s operations fell to its executive team, which
operated at the top of a conventional line management structure and chain of
accountability, with tiers of Post Office employees reporting upwards. One of the
executive team’s functions was to manage and provide scrutiny and challenge to Post
Office employees down through reporting lines, and to ensure that appropriate
structures were in place to provide suitable training and supervision across the
business, to enable accurate management information to flow up the management

chain, and to surface and monitor risks (to give just a few relevant examples).

36. The Post Office board and its various committees were in turn responsible for
scrutinising and challenging the Post Office executive, so as to satisfy itself that the
business was being managed appropriately in line with the shareholder’s objectives
for the company. Amongst these board committees was the Audit and Risk
Committee (ARC), whose specific responsibility was to review and monitor risks,
ensure that appropriate mitigations were in place, and keep the wider board

appraised.

37. Until 2012, the Post Office board was in turn overseen by and answerable to the
Royal Mail fiduciary board, which provided the next tier of governance, scrutiny and

oversight.

38. In 2012, the Post Office board became a fully constituted fiduciary board, and from
that time each of the non-executive and executive directors owed important legal
duties to the company pursuant to the Companies Act. The board was accountable

to the shareholder (i.e. the Secretary of State).

39. Above the Post Office executive and board (and, until 2012, the Royal Mail board),

the next tier of scrutiny, challenge, oversight and accountability was ShEx / UKGI,

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acting on a devolved basis on behalf of the shareholder — since 2018, it has done so

in conjunction with the Department’s Post Office policy team.

40. ShEx / UKGI in turn reported’ to the postal affairs Minister, who in turn was
answerable to the Secretary of State. (ShEx / UKGI also sometimes reported directly
to the Secretary of State.) The Minister and Secretary of State were accountable to

Parliament and, ultimately, Parliament was answerable to the British public.

41. Part of this overall governance and oversight structure is set out at a high level in a
diagram from a briefing given to Ministers in 2022,? replicated here in simplified

form (figure 1) with some amendment to reflect Rt Hon. Kemi Badenoch’s

evidence:?6
Secretary of State — sole Post Office policy POL Executive
Shareholder I 7I team (since 2018) Team
Delegated to relevant ij i
Minister /oKer (/ShEx until POL Board
2016) I (including URGI
Shareholder
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Fig. 1

42. The entire system of management, governance, scrutiny, oversight and accountability
operated on a devolved basis, with responsibilities delegated by Parliament at the top

through a pyramidal system to the range of Post Office employees at the bottom.

43. The Department considers that this structural model_was_and_ remains broadly

appropriate, but would of course welcome any recommendations from the Inquiry

on this issue.

* Noting that UKGI, as an “arm’s length” body of HM Treasury, is not managed by or accountable
in organisational terms to the Department / the Secretary of State.

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44, This sort of structure is entirely typical of — and both necessary and unavoidable in —
any large and complex organisation. The range of responsibilities for those in more
senior positions within this pyramidal structure is so vast that it would be impossible
for them to be personally involved in all matters arising in all of the tiers beneath
them, but it is also true that they are formally responsible and accountable for

everything falling within their remit.

45. This is equally — and perhaps especially — true for Government Ministers. As the Rt

Hon. Alan Milburn put it when giving oral evidence in Phase 2 of the Inquiry:?’

“You know, it's difficult, I think, for people to understand, who haven't been in government,
Just how much stuff there is. You knon, you're getting a lot of stuff coming at you all the time
and there's a lot of correspondence, a lot of, nowadays, emails, and so on and so forth. So there
does have to be some filtering mechanism, you know, because, otherwise, it just -- you're faced
with an avalanche that it's just impossible to deal with... 1 don't want to, in any way, give
the impression that ministers are victims in all of this because, in the end, you're in government,
jou know, you're responsible for what happens in your Department, that's the rule of the
game, so to speak, even though, very often, to be perfectly honest, there are things that are
happening in your Department that you have absolutely zero line of sight of, because it's almost
impossible to have any line of sight of it...I mean it's a crazy way of life. 1 mean, you know,
there's a reference to Alistair and Steve and I on Christmas Eve having a conflab about
whatever it was in relation to Horizon, that wouldn't be unusual. There's another reference
somewhere to meeting at 12.30 in the morning, trying to cobble together a decision. I mean,
these are not unusual things. So it's a very intense thing to do, it's the most purposeful thing

I've ever done in my life and I don't regret a moment of it. But it is -~ it's pretty busy.”

46. Having satisfied themselves that appropriate structures are in place beneath them,
the key question for Ministers — and others sitting in senior positions in large and

complex organisations — is therefore about where to focus their own limited time.

Managing risks in a complex environment

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47. It is now entirely clear that the Post Office’s approach to postmasters suffering
Horizon shortfalls was appalling, and that this was a risk which should have been

identified and addressed.

48. It would be easy — but wrong — to assume from this that the problem with Horizon
should necessarily have been identified and addressed, proactively, within every tier

of the management, governance and oversight system.

49, Clearly each additional layer of oversight offers an additional opportunity to
scrutinise and challenge the tiers below, and thereby to expose and socialise
previously unidentified risks, but as in any pyramidal system each layer by necessity
has a more macro role and limited focus compared to those below it. As Mark Russell

observed, the most intensive oversight function comes from the board itself:28

“Q. [What] mechanisms within the arm's-length body governance mechanism were there for
detecting and dealing with situations such as, in this case, where senior executives acted in bad

faith and covered up matters?

A. I think the principal answer to that has to be the Board because -- the Board of the Post
Office.

Q. The Post Office Board?

A. Correct, because they are our oversight, they are our -- they have the time, they have the
capacity, they have the knowledge and their function is to hold the executive to account. If they
miss it, then we might just catch it but I have to say it's sort of luck, if we, you know, if we
can pick up on something like this. I mean, that said, we have missed things here and it was

a catastrophe.”

50. In addition, the more layers of oversight, the more complex — and therefore more
difficult to manage, govern and oversee — the overall system. After a point, adding
new or different layers of oversight is unlikely to be the solution and indeed may

make matters worse. As Sir Martin Donnelly explained: “The challenge of adding

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additional layers is if you do not have additional information on which to base your challenge, it can

merely add bureaucracy and actually make it more difficult to get at the facts’ 2°

51. In the same way that it would be impossible for a Permanent Secretary to scrutinise
the work of each of the tens of thousands of staff employed by the Department and
its arm’s length bodies, it would be impossible for ShEx / UKGI to scrutinise every
element of the Post Office board and executive’s business. Similarly, Ministers do
not have the bandwidth to delve into everything going on below them (especially
when also conducting Parliamentary business and constituency MP work). In large
and complex organisations such as the Post Office or the Government, different
people have different roles to play: institutional risk management requires a structure,

with the right people in the right places doing the right things.

52. But no system of risk analysis and management is infallible. Gaps and weaknesses are
inherent in any system — especially one designed simultaneously to address a
potentially infinite, diverse, unknowable and ever-changing range of potential
scenarios. The more resources focussed on the problem, the greater the chances of
preventing these risks from eventuating, and of mitigating those that do — but this
comes at a cost. As explained above, putting in ever more layers of governance is not
the panacea it may superficially appear to be. In any case, the Government does not
have limitless resources, and it has to use the resources it does have proportionately
and wisely. At a departmental and Ministerial level, oversight of public corporations
is by necessity limited, with substantial reliance placed on UKGI and the various
management, governance and oversight functions below it to identify and highlight
problems which are of sufficient seriousness to require escalation to the departmental

and/or Ministerial level.

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53. And, whilst it is now clear that Horizon was the place where the holes in the “Swiss
Cheese” aligned?!, the Department had to spread its attention across the colossal
range of risks and policy areas within its domain of responsibility. A number of
Ministers and officials spoke of their work to head off various crises which arose
during their time in office.** And the evidence made clear that Ministers (and their
private offices) receive large volumes of correspondence requesting their attention
on a huge range of different issues, problems and concerns.** Ministers have to
choose where best to spend their time based on the information available to them. It
is therefore understandable that, when a Minister is advised by those responsible for
overseeing and advising on an “arm’s length” body that there is nothing of concern
occurring, they should choose to spend their time on something seemingly more
pressing. In these circumstances, direct and proactive Ministerial oversight of an
“arm’s length” body may in practical reality be seen less as an intrinsic and consistent

part of the overall governance system and more as an occasional incident.

54. All of this means that it would be wrong to lay blame at the feet of Ministers for the
fact that they did not all spend their time focusing on occasional complaints about

Horizon.

55. Between the Post Office, Royal Mail, ShEx / UKGI, the Department and Parliament,
there were multiple layers of management, governance and oversight in place.
Tragically they were insufficient to identify and prevent the extraordinary confluence

of circumstances which together led to this scandal. Indeed, the fact that the Post

*' As to the Swiss Cheese model of risk analysis and management, see James Reason, “The
Contribution of Latent Human Failures to the Breakdown of Complex Systems’, Philosophical
Transactions of the Royal Society of London, Series B, Biological Sciences, Vol 327, Issue 1241, pp475-484
(RLIT0000467). In the Magnox Inquiry Report, (RLIT0000475) Steve Holliday stated at 3.8: “Is
would be overly simplistic to describe Magnox as merely a failed procurement exercise, without acknowledging that
the totality of the contributing events was caused by multiple failings. In safety investigations I am used to the “Swiss
cheese” model as a metaphor for how seemingly multiple layers of defence against individual and organisational
failings (in the form of detailed processes and qualified and experienced personnel) can still allow significant incidents
to occur.”

® Bg. Javid, 12 (WIT'N10880100); Donnelly, 12-13, 17 (WITN11250100); Mandelson, 23
(WITN00600100)

% fg. Cable, 19 (WITN10830100); Swinson, 11 (WITN10190100), Tolhurst, 10
(WITN10930100)

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57.

58.

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Office’s conduct was so appalling on so many levels may well have made it more
difficult for the system to pre-empt, identify and rectify it — because this scandal is
not merely a story of a flawed IT system, it is also a tale of false assurances, of a
culture of secrecy, of untruths and half-truths spun to board members, officials,
Ministers, MPs and the Great British public, of institutional and individual
incompetence, dishonesty and cover-up, of misleading official advice, of false
testimony, of disclosure breaches, and of bad lawyers. Any risk management system

would find that combination hard to stop.

All of this points to the conclusion that the best that can be done is to put the right
systems in place, attempt to ask the right questions consistently with available
bandwidth and on a proportionate basis (with proportionality essentially a balancing
exercise), inculcate the right culture with the right incentives, employ good people,

give them good training and rely on them to make good choices.

The Department agrees with the evidence of Robert Swannell and Mark Russell that

the risk analysis _and_management structures _in place were not fundamentally

deficient.4

However, at the heart of any governance, oversight and risk management system are

people. As Sir Alex Chisholm observed when giving oral evidence:*>

“No structural solution can fully deal with the realities of the situation which depend on the

quality of the people you have in there, and their dealings with each other?’

What is critical, therefore, is not just a fit-for-purpose risk management system but
also people with the right skills, training and culture able and empowered to make
good decisions. In the context of the Inquiry, it is right to ask whether it is ultimately

about the people and the system which put them in place.

The importance of trust

“9 July 2024/Swannell/160/10 (INQ00001171); 9 July 2024/Russell/66/14 INQ00001171)
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60. Ministers’ most important source of information ought to flow from those lower
down the chain; in this case ShEx / UKGI (and latterly also Departmental) officials,
the Post Office Board and the Post Office management team. This flow of
information must be based on a relationship of trust and good faith. All of the
Ministers who have given evidence have told the Inquiry that they have no genuine
choice but to trust officials - our whole system of democratic government fails if

they are unable to work on that basis.
61. Sir Ed Davey elegantly summarised the point when he stated:5°

“Our system of government is essentially built on the assumption that people in positions of
trust — such as the leadership of the Post Office — tell the truth. It is hard to imagine how it
could function without that basic assumption. For example, ministers are given a huge amount
of advice and information from officials every day. They simply do not have the time or means

to interrogate all of it to check for themselves whether it is true or false.”
62. In the Rt Hon. Pat McFadden’s words:*”

“Ministers receive large volumes of correspondence and documents across their policy portfolios.
Ministers are to a very large extent reliant on the objective and impartial advice of officials
and their steer as to what is required. They rely on officials to determine what a Minister
should review personally, to analyse information accurately and to provide sensible
recommendations for action, and to draft responses to correspondence that are consistent with
and advance Government policy. Given the breadth of ministerial portfolios and the challenging
constraints on time that entails, Ministers must make decisions on the advice given, trusting
and with the expectation that officials are competent and have acted with honesty and integrity.
Whilst Ministers do and must challenge the advice given when appropriate, the efficient
functioning of Government necessitates that Ministers work. with the expectation that the
information they are given by advisers is given in good faith and in accordance with the Civil

Service Code.”

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63. He expanded on this point in oral evidence:58

“O. So my question was: the reliance you place on the Civil Service and the process you
described, if you weren't to rely on the civil servants like that, what effect would that have on

the business of Government?

A, Well, it would be very difficult. How can government operate, how can ministers operate,
if they couldn't trust what they were being told? You could perhaps envisage a world where
everything is not trusted and pretty soon you can see it's very difficult to operate government on
that basis. So trust in what you're being told is at the heart of how this works, how this system

works -- how it should work.”

64. The Civil Service Code (which is a developed expression of the Nolan principles) is
fundamental to the work of civil servants, and its values are deeply ingrained.
Baroness Neville-Rolfe referred to still having these “residual Civil Service values in my

DNA” over 20 years after leaving the Civil Service. The Code explains:*°

“As a civil servant, you are appointed on merit on the basis of fair and open competition and
are expected to carry out your role with dedication and a commitment to the Civil Service and

its core values: integrity, honesty, objectivity and impartiality, In this code:

© ‘integrity’ is putting the obligations of public service above your own personal interests
© ‘honesty’ is being truthful and open

© — ‘objectivity’ is basing your advice and decisions on rigorous analysis of the evidence

© ‘impartiality’ is acting solely according to the merits of the case and serving equally well

governments of different political persuasions”
65. Most relevantly, the Code also states:

“Integrity

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You must:
© fulfil your duties and obligations responsibly

© —abvays act in a way that is professional and that deserves and retains the confidence of

all those with whom you have dealings

© carry out your fiduciary obligations responsibly (that is make sure public money and

other resources are used properly and efficiently)

¢ deal with the public and their affairs fairly, efficienth, promptly, effectively and

sensitively, to the best of your ability
¢ — ensure you have Ministerial authorisation for any contact with the media

© keep accurate official records and handle information as openly as possible within the

legal framework,

© — comply with the law and uphold the administration of justice

Honesty

You must:

© set ont the facts and relevant issues truthfully, and correct any errors as soon as possible
© use resources only for the authorised public purposes for which they are provided

You must not:

© — deceive or knowingly mislead ministers, Parliament or others

© — be influenced by improper pressures from others or the prospect of personal gain

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You must:

¢ provide information and advice, including advice to ministers, on the basis of the

evidence, and accurately present the options and facts
¢ take decisions on the merits of the case
¢ take due account of expert and professional advice
You must not:

© — ignore inconvenient facts or relevant considerations when providing advice or making

decisions

© frustrate the implementation of policies once decisions are taken by declining to take,

or abstaining from, action which flows from those decisions”

66. Officials within ShEx were civil servants and therefore directly bound by the Civil
Service Code (enforceable through employment law). After UKGI absorbed ShEx in
2016, its officials were technically not civil servants (unless seconded in from the civil
service) but they were nevertheless required to abide by the principles of the Civil
Service Code (and were informed of this) and at risk of disciplinary measures and,

ultimately, dismissal should they fall short.4°

67. Ministers also understood that ShEx / UKGI, as the “centre of excellence for corporate
governance’, housed a cadre of experts who had been specifically recruited to fulfil the
corporate governance and oversight role on behalf of the departmental shareholders
— in other words, it was reasonable to assume not just integrity, objectivity ete but

also a high degree of competence.

68. To summarise:

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a. Given the immense pressures on Ministers’ time, they are reliant on their

officials to alert them to which matters require their attention.*!

b. Ministers rightly expect their officials to provide them with frank, impartial and

comprehensive information and advice.

c. Ministers rely on officials to deal with the vast quantities of incoming letters
and emails, triaging them, and preparing draft responses for the Minister to
sign, usually with little or no context, with the intention that Ministers should

be able to scan read them before signing.4?

69. As for Post Office employees, they were not civil servants but they did work for a
Government-owned company fulfilling a social purpose. It is clear that Ministers and
Departmental and UKGI officials expected Post Office staff to understand that they
should act in line with the heightened standards of behaviour required of public
servants. In particular, it was assumed“ that they would conduct themselves in
accordance with the Nolan principles.‘ This was referred to in the letter of delegation
sent to the CEO of Post Office as ‘Accountable Person’, and explicitly stated in
letters of appointment for senior executive, chairs and NEDs of public bodies from

at least 2016.47 As Sir Martin Donnelly put the point:**

“Public servants understand, those of us who join the public sector do so on the basis we want

to work ethically and effectively. So 1 think it's perhaps useful to remind people of them, but,

“ Swinson, 65 (WITN10190100)

18 July 2024/McFadden/29/20 (INQ00001177); Davey, 75 (WITN10610100); 19 July
2024 /Swinson/30/13, 33/5, 65/12 (INQ00001178); 25 July 2024/Cable/18/6 INQ00001181)

* Swinson, 110 (WITN10190100)

“ Donnelly, 60 (WITN11250100); 27 September 2024/Donnelly/176/9 (INQ00001188);
Chisholm, 78 and 253 (WITN00180100)

* RLIT0000469

* 7 November 2024/Chisholm/127/1 (INQ00001203); there is an absence of direct evidence as
to whether these expectations were effectively communicated across the Post Office — and with
the gift of hindsight it is probably reasonable to infer that it was not.

Dawson and Steward (expert report 1), 1.4.3 (EXPG0000006_R)
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jou know, signing up shouldn't make a difference because it ought to be implicit in everything
everyone does. And obviously, you know, we're all imperfect and we don't manage to do it as

well as we should, but it's just a core responsibility of anybody working in public services.”

70. Similarly, Stephen Lovegrove observed that ShEx / UKGI were entitled to assume

that public bodies like Post Office would give honest, truthful and full information:*?

“@Q. In general terms, did ShEx seek, assurances, before placing reliance on information

provided to it by assets?

A. No, we didn't, because that would have been an admission that we didn't really - if we
asked a question, we weren't necessarily expecting an honest, truthful and full answer. And
we did not operate along those lines. The Shareholder Executive handbook, the Shareholder
Executive annual guidance, the framework, agreements, the chairman's letters, all made it
absolutely clear that we expected full and frank, honest, well-founded, detailed responses to
questions that we might be asking. If we had had to go through that process every single time
that we had communication with an asset, that would have been very, very wearing indeed, as

well as wasting a lot of time. That was not the kind of relationship that we sought to develop.”

71. Officials (and Ministers) were therefore entitled to place trust in what they are told
by the Post Office. The Post Office board is entitled to place trust in what it is told
by the Post Office executive, and the Post Office executive is entitled to place trust

in what it is told from lower down the organisation.

72. In each case there must be trust that the lower level will pass on any information
which the higher level might need to know, being selective to avoid information
overload but providing accurate summaries and not omitting important matters,
glossing them or obscuring them because they are difficult, embarrassing or
uncertain. The higher level may be able to check some information from sources in
other parts of, or outside, the organisation — but such checks can never provide
assurance about more than a small fraction of the information provided up the

management line.

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73. The Inquiry has heard clear evidence that this trust was betrayed by the Post Office,
including its executive team, which gave cast iron assurances that it was not in a
position to give, and regularly provided a grossly misleading (and possibly dishonest)

spin on information where the truth may have led to greater scrutiny.

74. The Inquiry has also seen and heard evidence tending to suggest that ShEx / UKGI
officials — whose job it was to provide genuine scrutiny and challenge on behalf of
Ministers — instead merely repeated the Post Office’s lines (including the “no systemic
issues” mantra) without explaining that they had not verified their accuracy, sought
to “manage” Ministers, and aligned themselves with Post Office against the

postmasters.

75. This may reflect the pervasive effect of Post Office’s consensus-driven “pull up the
drawbridge” culture which lacked diverse perspectives, did not value internal
challenge, was incurious, unintelligent and closed-minded — a culture flowing from
Post Office’s board and CEO — all of which were symptoms and/or causes of the

related problem of institutional groupthink within the Post Office.

76. This closing statement goes on to identify areas and occasions where the
Department’s own scrutiny could and possibly should have been better — but it is
hard to envisage any system able reliably to cut through where Government
Ministers, MPs and Parliament are repeatedly given false information and false

assurances by a public body and its senior staff.

Duty of candour

77. The thrust of evidence from Ministers was that their general experience was that civil
servants reliably work to the values expressed in the Civil Service Code.>” However,
this is not the first public inquiry to have revealed evidence of a lack of candour
amongst some public officials. Sir Brian Langstaff’s Infected Blood Inquiry report

identified, in Volume 15!, several overarching themes that caused and characterised

* Eg. 19 July 2024/Swinson/74/1 (INQ00001178)
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that scandal. The fifth of these themes was “institutional defensiveness, from the NHS and
in particular from government, compounded by groupthink. amongst civil servants and ministers, and

a lack of transparency and candour”.

A notable passage in Volume 1 of Sir Brian Langstaffs report states, at p.250, that
his findings “//ay) out clearly the consequences of civil servants and ministers adopting lines to take
without sufficient reflection, when they were inaccurate, partial when they should have been qualified,

had not proper evidential foundation, ignored findings made by courts which were inconsistent (or

flatly contradictory of) the lines adopted, or made unrealistic claims ... The commentary ... reflects

how:

“In relation to Hepatitis C, Ministers took, on faith what civil servants said; civil servants
took. on faith what the files said. No one stood back and reflected. No one asked questions

— could this really be right? ...

It records how a “line, which was wrong from the very outset, then became entrenched for around

twenty years: a dogma became a mantra, It was enshrined. It was never questioned.’”

Sir Brian went on (p.251) to state “the Inquiry has a particular perspective on how the existence
of a clearer, more emphatic, duty of candour among civil servants might have altered the nature of the
government response ... 1 doubt that the last word has yet been said on whether a statutory personal
duty of candour should be introduced across the Civil Service. No one can sensibly dispute that people
in public life should observe basic moral principles: they are as applicable to government ministers
and officials as they are to clinicians. The principles of public life may have become known as the
Nolan Principles in 1995, but they articulate what was already well understood, and went beyond
the “basic moral principle of our society that we should tell the truth.” Yet they did not prevent what
the chapters on the government response describe. I said in the chapter Lines to Take that it is ironic
that these Nolan principles were articulated in their present form at a time when for six years an
over-confident line with no proper evidential foundation had been repeated by civil servants, adopted
by them as having the status of a “given” through a form of groupthink, and was to go on being used
repeatedly. It is more than ironic: it shows that without statutory underpinning the principles of Lord
Nolan and the Civil Service Code are not in themselves sufficient to prevent this happening, It must

be a concern that unless a duty of candour “has teeth” it might similarly be broken in future ...”

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81.

82.

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Sir Brian ultimately recommended that consideration be given to a statutory duty of
candour, which “will first and foremost place requirements on those who lead — for they should be
accountable by statute for the honesty, objectivity and completeness of what is said by them, or given

to ministers to say.”

The Government is committed to bringing forward legislation that will introduce a
duty of candour on all public authorities and public servants, backed up by criminal

sanctions.

Where Ministers are receiving inaccurate flows of information from officials, the best
way to discover the truth comes from stakeholder comments, but these may or may
not find their way to the Minister. Where there is an identifiable trend in such
comments, in an ideal world they would prompt challenge down the governance
chain. Where stakeholders’ stories differ markedly from that being presented up the

chain, there can be a role for independent assurance. In the case of the Horizon

andal, there were times (discussed further below) when stakeholder comments were

missed_or not given sufficient weight, or when independent_assurance, although

started, was not carried through properly to its conclusions.

More general legal and regulatory controls

The observations above about the need for trust, the Nolan principles and the duty
of candour feed into a related point that corporate governance and oversight
structures do not operate in a vacuum. They form part of a broader ecosystem
designed, overall, to drive high standards of behaviour and deter inappropriate

behaviour.

In addition to the Civil Service Code and Nolan principles (as ultimately enforceable

via employment law), that ecosystem also incorporates:

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a. criminal law (including the offences of perverting the course of justice5? and

perjury® and, in the public sector, misconduct in public office*4); and

b. _ the professional regulation of solicitors and lawyers (carrying the threat of being
struck off or disbarred), together with the system of training (including
continual professional development) of lawyers which ought to ensure high

standards of competence and integrity.

85. Evidently this ecosystem was insufficient, cumulatively, to deter or prevent the Post
Office, its employees and internal and external legal advisors from acting in the way
they did. Nor did it invariably result in balanced, impartial and objective advice from

ShEx / UKGI officials.

86. The Department’s Secretary of State, the Rt Hon. Jonathan Reynolds, adverted to

this issue in his oral evidence:55

“So I'd say this issue of how arm's-length bodies and how Government and UKGI functions
is one that's got to be central to the conversation and the answers that we're having. Now 1
honestly cannot tell you, having been a Secretary of State for no more than four months,
whether I am confident that the arrangements of the UK state in this way will alvays work
effectively or whether this was just the wrong questions being asked of the wrong people, you

know, the wrong mechanism or whether there's something more fundamental at stake in that.

I would say that I look at a whole range of things that I have seen from the perspective of being
a Member of Parliament for over a decade and, obviously, this is a significant one but I think
about Hillsborough, I think about Bloody Sunday, and I think, about what we've recently
seen around Grenfell, and I think. there are some quite profound questions that we as a country
have to ask ourselves, that go beyond individual mechanisms for oversight as to how we

establish and run these kinds of organisations.

© For which the maximum sentence is life imprisonment.
* Carrying a sentence of up to 7 years.
A maximum of life imprisonment.

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There are things that have been going, you know, fundamentally wrong with how power is
wielded in the UK, how accountability is provided for. So I think, yes, there are some specific
questions around the future governance structure and oversight, but I think. there are some
wider changes we've got to think about as a country, whether that is -- you know, there's been,
I know, as part of this Inquiry some conversation about how we would address in future
historic miscarriages of justice and abuses of power and whether there's a sort of different

mechanism, standing mechanism we can have to do that.

You'll know the Government has committed to something called the Hillsborough Lam, the
duty of candour. I think all of these things are connected to each other and, whilst we've got to
address the specific problems of this Inquiry, there are some wider lessons that we've got to
consider because there have been too many cases in modern British history of fundamental
abuses of power and that is just how it is. And we've got to recognise that-- we've got to have

the humility to recognise lessons have to be learnt from all of these things going forward.”

87. As Dame Sandra Dawson observed, “/A/ framework cannot control behaviour. It sets the

boundaries and sets the expectations.”°6

88. However, in this case the overall legal and regulatory ecosystem did provide Ministers
with a false sense of security. Almost all the Ministers from whom the Inquiry heard
evidence emphasised that a major factor in why they accepted the Post Office’s
answers to the questions they posed (or which were posed on their behalf by officials)
was the fact that the criminal justice system had considered Horizon evidence in
many prosecutions and always found it to be reliable. On any view it was reasonable
for the Government to respect the judgments of the courts in this domain. This was

for at least three reasons:

a. The fundamental constitutional principles of the separation of powers and rule
of law, meaning that the Government does not interfere with or undermine the

judgments of the independent judiciary and courts.57

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b. The understanding that the various safeguards within the criminal justice system
— including the continuing duty to disclose any and all exculpatory material, the
duty of experts, and the burden and standard of proof — should prevent

widespread and systematic miscarriages of justice.**

c. The reasonable underlying assumption that the Post Office and Fujitsu and
their employees, agents and lawyers would not breach their disclosure
obligations or otherwise mislead the court or pervert the course of justice nor
(in the case of lawyers) act incompetently or in breach their professional codes

of conduct.
89. This was illustrated, for example, in the evidence of Jo Swinson:°?

“For me, the separation between the Government and judicial processes weighed significantly
on my mind. I was conscious in my actions and my public remarks of not undermining the
courts or suggesting that decisions they had reached were wrong. I did not bekeve it was my
place as a Minister to do that. The ongoing disclosure duty also seemed unambiguous, serious
and a strong protection against unsafe convictions continuing to stand. It did not cross my
mind that the cast iron assurances I received about POL!'s compliance with such a serious

legal responsibility would turn out to be false.”
90. Baroness Neville-Rolfe took similar comfort from the role of the courts:°°

“T found this reassuring, in that the Criminal Cases Review Commission are looking at

applications for review from subpostmasters and that POL has a duty, which obviously I was

** The Department takes the view that the Supreme Court in R (Nunn) v Chief Constable of Suffolk
[2015] AC 225 explained the common law post-conviction duty to disclose material capable of
casting doubt on the safety of conviction; it did not create or develop that duty. The common law
post-conviction duty is founded on fairness: [22], [30], [35]. The 2005 version (RLIT0000045 at
§59) (and subsequent versions) of the Attorney-General’s guidelines appear to have been an
attempt to articulate the pre-existing common law duty (see Nunn at [35]), whereas versions of the
guidelines prior to 2005 did not recognise any post-conviction disclosure duty. Therefore, whilst
the post-conviction duty has certainly existed since 2005 and may arguably have existed for many
years before this, the precise point at which the common law first recognised the post-conviction
disclosure duty is uncertain.

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aware of from my corporate background, to disclose material that comes to light. I mean, that's

a very important principle of British justice.”

The role of Ministers in scrutinising information and advice

91. None of this should be taken to suggest that Ministers can always just take everything

from officials at face value, or that they should never probe what they are told.
92. As Baroness Hallett stated in her Module 1 report in the UK Covid-19 Inquiry®!:

“Ministers commence their role, by and large, as amateurs, and are offen not professionally
trained in the policy areas of their departments. They are required to learn on the job. They
must, nonetheless, provide leadership to their department and decide complex matters of policy,

and that is no less true in the field of emergency preparedness and resilience.

They should, therefore, challenge the advice they receive from both experts and officials. The
quality of the decision-making of ministers will only be as good as the depth and range of
advice they receive, as well as their interrogation of that advice. Michael Gove MP, Chancellor
of the Duchy of Lancaster from July 2019 to September 2021 and Minister for the Cabinet
Office from February 2020 to September 2021, told the Inquiry:

“W )hat we bring is the capacity to ask the ‘daft laddie’ question, and sometimes it is
only when someone asks that question that we find out that the Emperor has no clothes

or the pandemic preparedness plan has a huge hole in the middle.
93. In his Report in the Infected Blood Inquiry, Sir Brian Langstaff stated®?:

“Tt is not the fault of ministers if civil servants do not bring matters to their attention. It is,

however, the responsibility of ministers to demonstrate a degree of proactivity and to challenge.”

94. Ministers cannot, however, test, probe and second guess every piece of information
they receive. Counsel’s suggestion to Sir Vince Cable — that “If somebody had asked me

to sign something, I'd either want to know if what’s in it is true from my own personal knowledge or

“ Covid-19 Inquiry Module 1 Report dated July 2024 at 6.2-6.8 (RLIT0000471)
® Infected Blood Inquiry Report Volume 4, p.65 (RLIT0000472)
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a little bit about the process which has gone into finding out the information and testing iP® — is
perfectly logical in the abstract but is inconsistent with the extreme reality of a
Minister’s job. And if officials were required to summarise, in relation to each piece
of advice or draft letter, the process they had followed to ensure compliance with the
Civil Service Code, government would soon grind to a halt, as the Rt Hon. Pat
McFadden explained.** The Civil Service Code is in itself a very substantial safeguard

for Ministers®.

95. The answer to the question faced by every Minister many times a day — “Should I probe
that piece of information or advice?’ — is therefore an inherently nuanced one which
involves judgements and trade-offs. Ministers must make those judgements and
trade-offs at pace, based on the information available to them and having regard to
competing demands in the knowledge that, in this zero-sum game, doing A means

not doing B.
96. Margot James explained her own approach in the following terms“:

“As with the advice I received on all areas of my policy portfolio, I relied on officials for
objective and honest advice. They were bound by the Civil Service Code and so I expected the
advice given to be of this character. Given the breadth of all ministerial portfolios, it is necessary
that Ministers make decisions on the basis of the advice given (except in those cases where I

had good reason to challenge that advice) and we are reliant on its impartiality and accuracy.”

97. In oral evidence, she expanded on the circumstances where she might challenge the

information and advice she received”:

“OQ. What would constitute good reason to challenge advice?

® 25 July 2024/Cable/30/8 (INQ00001181)
& McFadden, 34 (WIT'N10250100)

® See, to similar effect, the evidence of Stephen Lovegrove: 15 July 2024/Lovegrove/68/24
(INQ00001174)

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A, When you feel that the -- when you feel there's some partiality, for a start. If you don't
trust the advice, that is a very good reason to challenge it. And when you think that it's
contrary to the public interest is usually the other reason. There can sometimes be — you have
to have an eye on the Government and the impact you're having on other Departments,
Number 10, all these other stakeholders within Government. That might be a reason to
challenge advice. You might feel that the advice is all well and fine but you know that a key
player, whether that's the Chancellor or the Prime Minister or your own Secretary of State, is
going to have an issue with it, then that might be a reason to challenge it, against the public
interest or you feel that there's some partiality involved and you doubt its integrity. Those are

the reasons, really, that I would have challenged advice.

Q. At the time did you ever feel there was partiality in the advice being provided to you and

the briefings being provided to you about the Post Office?
A. No, I didn't, I didn't.”

98. Sir Ed Davey also explained his own approach to information received from

officials:

“O. When you receive a briefing like the one from Mike Whitehead of 5 October 2010,
would you ask questions about the sources of information in it or would you take the document

as read and not query the accuracy or the sources of things said in it?

A, Normally we'd take it as read unless something jumped, completely jumped out at you.
But I'd had submissions in all my ministerial posts and very rarely do I remember questioning

them in the way you've described.
Q. So the information presented to you by civil servants, you take to be reliable and truthful?

A, Yes.

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99.

100.

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Q. Really what I'm asking, Sir Ed, is you said that you'd take the document as read as being
truthful and accurate when it gets to you, whether you had ever thought about what had gone

on to create the document that you were treating as truthful and accurate?

A, Yeah, well, my understanding, not just on this issue but other issues, was that by the time
a submission got to a minister there had been number of checkpoints within the Department.
The nature of what checking they were doing wasn't visible to me but, whether you're a junior
minister or a Secretary of State, my understanding is that the Civil Service has processes to

make sure what goes in front of the Minister is the best advice that they can provide?”

All of the Ministers who gave evidence on the subject explained how the Civil Service
Code, and the presumption that officials faithfully applied it, influenced their attitude
towards the information they received from ShEx / UKGI — and the extent to which

they would challenge it or not.

Likewise, several Ministers relied on the (as it turns out false) assurance that the Post
Office was complying with its post-conviction duty of disclosure. In other words,
Ministers were given comfort by the governance and oversight structures, coupled

with the overall regulatory ecosystem described above.

But Ministers nevertheless did probe and question information and advice where they

considered it appropriate.
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WHERE SHOULD THE GOVERNMENT HAVE ACTED DIFFERENTLY?

102.

104.

In light of the wider points made above about the nature of the strategic / operational
distinction, the way in which governance of the Post Office was intended to work,
the need for some level of trust and the reliance on being provided with accurate
information by the Post Office, it is difficult to see how Ministers or officials within
the Department could properly have been expected to do more to challenge or

investigate Post Office until mid-2014.

3. From then on, however, the Department has identified five particular points in time

when the Government could and arguably should have done more. Had it done so,
it is certainly possible that the scandal would have been uncovered at an earlier stage

than was in fact the case. These five points in time are:

a. August 2014 to April 2015 — ShEx’s receipt and analysis of Second Sight’s

reports and the Post Office’s response;

b. March 2015 — ShEx’s response to the Post Office’s decision to close the

Working Group and end Second Sight’s involvement;

c. July 2016 — the lack of follow-up by UKGI on Tim Parker’s letter and the Swift

Review after Baroness Neville-Rolfe’s departure as Minister;

d. 2017 to 2018 — UKGI not pushing harder to get the Post Office to reassess its

strategy in the group litigation; and

e. March 2019 - UKGI and Departmental officials failing to prevent the recusal

application and appeal following the Common Issues judgment.

The genesis of the scandal: contract and culture

It seems clear that, from an early stage in the roll-out of Horizon, decisions were
taken in the Post Office which put the scandal in motion. The Inquiry has heard from
many postmasters who faced shortfalls in the early days of Horizon that they were
told — untruthfully — that no-one else had a problem with the system. This was

repeated frequently in different parts of the country by different people, many of

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whom are likely to have known it was untrue. It is not conceivable that each of them
made it up for themself. Someone at the centre of the Post Office must have written

and distributed that lie.

105. Postmasters who were prosecuted were offered plea deals on condition that they said
nothing in public to challenge the integrity of the Horizon system. That is not a
decision which an individual prosecutor would be likely to take unilaterally. Again, it

must have come from the centre.

106. Someone must have approved these tactics, which had the effect of covering up
known problems with the Horizon system. The Department hopes that those

involved will be identified and brought to justice.

107. In a sense, the decision to adopt these tactics may have been where the Horizon
scandal started. But the roots of the scandal go further back into the contract with
postmasters and the Head Office culture which made it possible. Both of those pre-

dated Horizon.

108. The framers of the postmasters’ contract may not have foreseen Fraser J’s
conclusions that the contract was governed by the Unfair Contract Terms Act, or
that it was a relational contract with implied duties of good faith. But what sort of
business chooses to impose unexplained losses on its franchisees without
investigating their cause? What sort of business offers inadequate training on its main
IT system and a helpline which is nothing of the sort? Unfairly offloading problems
of this sort would have been shortsighted and counterproductive for any business.
For a Government-owned business with a social purpose, these actions were
especially egregious. The evidence suggests that they stemmed from an entrenched
culture of arrogance, disrespect and otherness towards postmasters which had

developed over time.
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109, Institutional culture within arm’s length bodies is today certainly recognised as a
matter of substantial importance.” It was less clearly recognised in that way in the
1990s.”° Furthermore, until 2012 the Post Office was a subsidiary of the Royal Mail
Group, the Government did not have a shareholder representative on the Board of
the Group, and that Board did not exercise close oversight of the Post Office or its

predecessors.

110. This is not to say that there was no way that information about the cultural problems
in the Post Office could come to light. The Inquiry heard evidence from Sir Vince
Cable that he and Sir Ed Davey had had experience of dealing with Post Office
middle management in their capacity as constituency MPs, and had found them to
take an “authoritarian” approach towards postmasters. Sir Vince recognised Sir Alan
Bates’s subsequent description of them as “thugs in suits”.’! However, these were
anecdotal impressions, and there does not appear to have been anything significant
brought to the attention of officials or Ministers about there being a wider or deep-
seated cultural issue at Post Office before 2012 at the earliest. Even in the light of the
Fraser J’s 2019 Common Issues and Horizon judgments, it took time for the true
depths of the cultural problems to be brought to light; Sarah Munby thought that,
with the benefit of hindsight, briefings provided to her by civil servants in the early
days of her time as Permanent Secretary in 2020 perhaps had not “emphasised sufficiently

the ongoing cultural challenge at POL.”?? Government’s attention to the culture of the

® The introduction to the 2024 edition of the UK Corporate Governance Code (RLIT0000217)
states that “a company’s culture should promote integrity and openness, value diversity and be
responsive to the views of shareholders and wider stakeholders”. Principle B of the Code itself
requires that “The board should establish the company’s purpose, values and strategy, and satisfy
itself that these and its culture are all aligned”.

” Culture was not mentioned in the Cadbury Report (1992) which established the Corporate Code.
By 2003, the Appendix to the revised Code_(RLIT0000474) said that one of the questions which
Boards should consider was: “Do the company’s culture, code of conduct, human resource policies
and performance reward systems support the business objectives and risk management and
internal control system?”

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ALBs which it supervises should grow in parallel to the increasing focus on such

issues in the Corporate Governance Code and more generally in business.

First evidence of the scandal and the commissioning of Second Sight

111. Prior to 2009, the Department received only a very small number of complaints about
the Horizon system. Given the range of issues facing the Department, coupled with
the arm’s length arrangement by which the Post Office operated and the reasonable
belief that the Post Office would provide accurate information to the Government
and that the criminal justice system could be relied on to discern guilt from innocence,
the Department considers it to have been understandable that ShEx officials did not

alert Ministers to any sort of problem requiring their involvement at this stage.

112. In 2009 the first media reports of Horizon problems began to appear and from 2009-
2012 the Department began to receive more letters from MPs raising concerns.
Ministers started asking questions of the Post Office in earnest following Sir Ed
Davey’s meeting with Sir Alan Bates in October 2010 (following which the Minister
asked officials to obtain further information and obtain further reassurance on a
number of points), but appear to have been reassured by a combination of factors
including the assurances provided by the Post Office, the lack of concern from the
NFSP, and the (supposed) fact that the courts had repeatedly upheld the robustness
of Horizon.” This was understandable, though the Department recognises that ShEx
officials could and perhaps should have looked more sceptically at the Post Office’s
assurances. It would perhaps also have been sensible for ShEx officials to begin to
collate a record of and monitor the various and increasingly numerous complaints;

had they done so, this may have led to more concerted action at a slightly earlier stage.

113. In the event, following representations from Lord Arbuthnot, the Post Office
appointed Second Sight in 2012 to conduct an independent review to “consider and to
advise on whether there are any systemic issues and/or concerns with the Horizon’ system, including
training and support processes, giving evidence and reasons for the conclusions reached’. The Post

Office assured MPs that Second Sight would have “wnrestricted access to documents held

? 18 July 2024/Davey/163/16-166/4 (INQ00001177)
114.

115.

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by Post Office (including documents subject to confidentiality and legal professional privilegey’ and

that there would be “no limitation in the scope of work, determined necessary by Second Sigh? 74

The Department was aware of Second Sight’s appointment, which appeared to be a
sensible and proportionate response to the mounting concerns voiced by postmasters
and their MPs. Having previously been deeply critical of the Post Office, the JFSA
also publicly approved of this step. Sir Alan Bates was quoted publicly as saying in

January 2013 that “The agreement ensures evidence can be given without fear of any comeback

from the Post Office?”

Although Sir Alan Bates then wrote to Jo Swinson as responsible Minister in April
20137° to express concerns about how Second Sight’s work was progressing, the
response she gave on the advice of ShEx officials’? was appropriate: Second Sight
were genuinely independent, and Lord Arbuthnot had taken on a coordinating and

liaising role.

At the time Jo Swinson was asked to give a Ministerial Statement on 9 July 20137, it
seemed that the Post Office was behaving responsibly in its approach to the
concerns. Second Sight’s interim report (dated 8 July 2013)” did not suggest there
was a dramatic problem, further investigation and other work was to be carried out,
and there was no indication at that stage that the Post Office did not intend to follow
up on Second Sight’s conclusions (although, as discussed below, the Inquiry has
heard much evidence about the lack of clarity in the expression “vo evidence of system

wide (systemic) problems’ and how the Post Office subsequently spun this).

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117. None of what the Minister was being told was the sort of thing which should have
caused concern so as to justify a major Government intervention. Sir Martin

Donnelly summarised well how this should be seen in context at the time: 8°

“In retrospect, obviously these were important moments. At the time, this was a standard
Junior Minister reporting on an issue. The Shareholder Executive team did not flag this up,
and I am sure in good faith, on the basis that they did not see anything substantively significant
out of the normal process of a review being commissioned in an area and followed up, and so

on, as happened in a lot of areas across our area of Government and more widely.

So it would have required someone to say, "This is actually significant for the following

reasons", otherwise it would have been a normal bit of Government business.”

118. On the establishment of the Initial Complaint Review and Mediation Scheme in
August 2013, Lord Arbuthnot made a supportive public statement: “I am very pleased
indeed with the working group’s proposed process. To my mind, it represents the very best chance all
parties — individual subpostmasters and mistresses, and the Post Office — have of ensuring the best
outcome for everyone. It is fair, thorough, and independent.”®! Given the views expressed by
Lord Arbuthnot and Sir Alan Bates at around this time, it was reasonable for the
Department to conclude that matters were being handled properly, and that the

Second Sight process should be allowed to run its course.

119. Of course, it is now clear that by the late summer of 2013 some senior people at the
Post Office knew full well that the problems were far more significant than had been
revealed to the Government. The Department was not aware of the Rod Ismay
report, the Clarke advice or the subsequent Cartwright King review. It would have
had no means of knowing about these matters unless Post Office had told it. The

Post Office should have highlighted these problems as matters of the utmost

* 27 September 2024/Donnelly/145/1 (INQ00001188)
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seriousness, but it failed to mention them at all. Jo Swinson described this breach of

trust in vivid terms:*?

“T am staggered that I made my statement to the House of Commons on 9 July (2013) and,
on 15 July, Post Office Limited received the memo, the Clarke memo, that said that the
credibility of their key witness was fatally undermined. I mean, this to me at the time seemed
very reasonable. I cannot quite square in my mind how it was possible for -- as a minister,
jou know, as the shareholder -- us to be responding, me to be responding on these issues, being
given this briefing and then that, you know, bombshell. I mean, I'm not a lawyer but when 1
read that document in the briefing notes [for the Inquiry], I -- you know, I couldn't believe
it. I don't think any -- you do not need to be a lawyer. How could anyone read that document
and not realise that this is something which demands urgent attention and yet where did that

gor”

120. The first key moment when the Government could and arguably should have realised
there was more of a problem than the Post Office was admitting was at the time of
Second Sight reports, and subsequently the breakdown of the Second Sight

investigation and mediation scheme.

121. The Inquiry has heard how the Post Office used selective excerpts from the Second
Sight reports to reassure anyone and everyone, from MPs to the press to
Departmental officials and Ministers, that Horizon was robust and there were no
significant concerns about the safety of prosecutions. The clearest example of this
was the way in which POL adopted, spun and dogmatically clung to one of the
preliminary conclusions in the interim report: “we have so far found no evidence of system-
wide (systemic) problems with the Horizon software’, As Ron Warmington recognised, this
expression was ambiguous and its adoption in the report was regrettable. He
explained this was a very provisional finding based on just four cases which had been

the most thoroughly investigated by that point in time:*+

* 19 July 2024/Swinson/45/25 (INQ00001178)
*® POL00099063 at conclusion 8.2(a)
* 18 June 2024/Warmington/ 128/18 (INQ00001162)

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‘Well, with the benefits of hindsight, absolutely. I wish we'd said that. I think lan mentioned
earlier, it would have been probably better if we'd spelled out exactly what we meant by
"systemic". We didn't use the word by accident and a considerable amount of thought and
discussion went into the word we used there. But, with the benefit of hindsight, Post Office

pounced on it and, as lan said, trumpeted it from the rooftops...”

122. Reassurance based on the same excerpt was shared with the Post Office Board
(including the Shareholder NED Susannah Storey)*> and then carried through in

advice to Ministers**, The same pattern repeated itself with Second Sight’s full report.

123, As Ron Warmington observed, a glossed version of this preliminary finding that they
had so far found “no evidence of system-wide (systemic) problems” became a much-repeated
‘line to take’ in the Post Office’s communications. This subsequently morphed into
a substantively different, more definite and entirely misleading Post Office line — in
substance a positive claim that the independent reports had actively confirmed the

robustness of Horizon.*”

124, The Department recognises that ShEx officials should have compared the text of the
reports with what the Post Office was saying and identified the misleading spin at the
time. Had they done so, this would have provided a clear basis to challenge the Post
Office and is likely to have created very substantial concerns about the way the Post
Office was approaching the issue. It may well have led to earlier Ministerial
intervention. (Indeed, when Second Sight later raised concerns about the way the
Post Office and in turn Ministers had summarised its findings, Baroness Neville-
Rolfe did take action.**) Instead, ShEx officials simply adopted the Post Office

mantra in their advice to Ministers.

*§ 30 July 2024/Storey/50/15 (INQ00001184); Storey, 111 (WITN00920100)
“ See for example UKG100001656; 30 July 2024/Storey/47/22 (INQ00001184)

* POL00189881; 14 May 2024/Davies/46/2 (INQ00001146); POL00101783; 22 May
2024/Vennells/125/18 INQ00001151); 23 May 2024/Vennells/42/19 (INQ00001152)

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125. In the summer of 2014, Second Sight produced their draft “Briefing Report — Part

Two”, which raised various issues.”

126. In late October 2014, Jo Swinson took steps to find out what was happening with
the mediation scheme and how it could be progressed more effectively, but was not
given an accurate or comprehensive picture by the Post Office or by ShEx.® Despite
the reasoned concerns now being expressed by a number of key stakeholders,
Ministers were not advised to challenge the Post Office further at this point. In
December 2014, the Minister was advised by Sir Anthony Hooper that the scheme
was progressing slower than planned, but not much detail could be shared to preserve

confidentiality.

127. It is now evident that in June 2014 the internal Post Office “Project Sparrow” sub-
committee had started discussing options for making changes to the mediation
scheme.’! ShEx was represented on that sub-committee but did not inform the
Minister of these developments. What followed was a decision by the Post Office to
exclude some postmasters from the mediation scheme, which led no fewer than 140

MPs to withdraw their support for the scheme.

128. The serious Parliamentary concerns also led in December 2014 to a Westminster Hall
debate. Jo Swinson told that debate that “The hon. Member for North Durham said “do
something”, and in such a situation what I would normally propose doing is to get a team of forensic
accountants to go through every scenario and to have the report looked at by someone independent,
such as a former Court of Appeal judge.” That was, of course, what was still supposed to
be happening through the mediation scheme with the involvement of Second Sight

and Sir Anthony Hooper.

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129, In the light of MPs’ concerns, the BIS Select Committee decided to investigate
Horizon issues. At the Select Committee’s oral evidence session on 3 February 2015

the Second Sight representative said:°?

“... we are very concerned about the prosecution cases—we have seen no evidence that the Post
Office’s own investigators were ever trained or prepared to consider that Horizon was at fault.
That was never a factor that was taken into account in any of the imestigations by Post Office

that we have looked at.

That is a matter of huge concern, and that is why we are determined to get to the bottom of
this matter, because we think that there have been prosecutions brought by the Post Office
where there has been inadequate investigation and inadequate evidence to support some of the
charges brought against defendants—sub-postmasters and former sub-postmasters. In
particular, we are aware—this, again, is why we need to see the full prosecution files—that a
common tactic employed by the Post Office, or lawyers acting on its behalf, is to bring charges
Jor both false accounting, which is a relatively easy charge to prove, and theft; then, as a
bargaining point—a plea-bargain, almost—before trial, they drop the charge for theft on the
basis that, first, the defendant will probably avoid a custodial sentence and, secondly, the

evidence is much simpler.

When we have looked at the evidence made available to us—bear in mind that I have been
an expert witness for the Crown Prosecution Service, instructed by the CPS on fraud cases—

I have not been satisfied that there is sufficient evidence to support a charge for theft. You can

imagine the consequences that flow from that. That is why we, Second Sight, are determined

to get to the bottom of this matter, which we regard as extremely serious.”

130. ShEx officials failed to bring this part of the evidence to Jo Swinson’s attention. They
should have. One of the Committee’s recommendations was that it should be given
acopy of Second Sight’s further report, when available. Jo Swinson “wasn’t comfortable”
with officials’ advice which said that it was not appropriate for the Government to
receive a copy of the report. She commented that “shis is a sensible recommendation...

and as sole shareholder Government should hold a copy of the report for audit trail purposes.”

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Officials submitted stronger advice against accepting the recommendation.” Despite
this, the Minister rightly maintained her position, which was reflected in the response

to the Committee.%4

131. On 5 March 2015 a submission to Jo Swinson, provided in the busy final few weeks
of the Parliamentary session and shortly before the General Election, finally informed
her that the Post Office were planning to “change their approach to the mediation scheme?
In practice this meant terminating Second Sight’s appointment and closing the
working group, but this was not drawn to the Minister’s attention nor was her
agreement sought; the submission simply asked her to “note” the development and
focused on whether a Written Ministerial Statement should be made (she was advised
not to do so). This was a significant change to a draft submission prepared two weeks
earlier,”° which Richard Callard amended so as no longer to seek Ministerial approval
for the change, thereby substantially reducing the likelihood that the Minister would
recognise the proposal as one to spend time on and, in turn, the likelihood she would

challenge it.

132. In another stark example of the inaccurate and incomplete provision of information
by the Post Office to Ministers, on 9 March 2015 Paula Vennells wrote to Jo
Swinson” providing a clear assurance that the Post Office had thoroughly
investigated the postmasters’ complaints and the possibility of unsafe convictions and
found nothing of concern, It emphasised Post Office’s post-conviction duty of
disclosure and stated each of the cases had been reviewed and no reason found to

conclude any prosecution was unsafe. The Clarke advice was not mentioned.

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133. Jo Swinson’s evidence on her subsequent meeting with Paula Vennells and other Post
Office executives, at which she was again given clear assurances, was particularly

powerful:

“So, having received this letter, which, without having seen the tracked changes, is a very
specific, confident, robust letter that says, you Know, "We've investigated, we've looked at this,
we've got this duty to disclose immediately, any information that comes to light would be
disclosed, and, of course, there's all these avenues for appeal, and, you know, there's no reason

to conclude that any original prosecution was unsafe".

That, to me, felt very reassuring and I just want to be clear, as well, that this was not only a
set of assurances that were given to me in writing; these were assurances that Paula Vennells
delivered to me in person, you know, across the table, looking me in the eye and telling me that
there was no problem, that they had investigated, that they had not found anything that would
cause concern, which I cannot square with that email I have now seen that she sent in October
2013, that says that she is -- you know, her concern is about an unsafe witness and their

obligations of disclosure.

So she knew about the Clarke Advice and the lack. of credibility of the key witness that they
had relied on for so many prosecutions. I mean, I consider that she did not tell me that at the
time in the summer and autumn of 2013 to be massively problematic, nor at any point in the
subsequent 18 months in any of our catch-ups in any of the submissions that I received, and
that she would sit and look. me in the eye and give me those assurances and then put that in
writing, you know, it just beggars belief because she knew that there were problems with

convictions, and the safety thereof because she had been told that in the Clarke memo.

And I got this letter and I did take it at face value, I believed the assurances and, you know,
in that first briefing note where I met with Alice Perkins and Paula Vennells in 2012, one
of the bullet points — which I remember because it was unusual -- was that Paula Vennells
is also an ordained vicar, right? And so she was sitting there, yes, as a Chief Exec of a

national organisation, national company, but she was also sitting there with the moral

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authority of somebody who was a minister of the cloth, right, not of some kind of slick Chief

Executive who seemed to care onky about profit, I believed her. I believed her.”

134. Based on Post Office information, ShEx officials also gave Jo Swinson significant

reassurance about the safety of criminal convictions.”

135. In her witness statement, Jo Swinson stated:!

“Tt never occurred to me at the time that information from ShEx might be anything other
than fully accurate. Indeed, my experience of the civil service was one of extreme caution in
terms of establishing facts. To illustrate, even when making a political speech as a Minister
that the Department had no role in drafting, for example at party conference, I would have to
submit the text in advance to allow the departmental officials to check it for accuracy. In
hindsight, I now question whether the ShEx officials were acting as the Government's
representative on the POL Board or the POL Board's representative in Government. It seems

it may have been they who had 'gone native’, not Second Sight.”

136. This last remark was a reference to a claim, included in an (inaccurate) September
2014 briefing to the Minister from Richard Callard of ShEx, that “Second Sight have
“gone native” and are unduly taking the side of JFSA. This is supported by the fact that SS have
admitted privately that they find it emotionally difficult to opine against SPMs, regardless of the

circumstances of the case.”1

137. Second Sight’s final “Briefing Report — Part Two”, dated 9 April 2015,!? contained

reference to various troubling issues including:

“26.1 When we started our work. on these important matters in July 2012, we believed there
was a shared commitment with Post Office to “seek the truth” irrespective of the consequences.
This was reflected in us being provided with unrestricted access to highly confidential and
sensitive documents, including legal advice relating to individual cases. This position was

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\ Swinson, 115 (WITN10190100)

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recognised and well received by other stakeholders, including the Rt. Hon. James Arbuthnot
MP and the JFSA.

26.2. However, as time progressed, and particularly in the last 18 months [February 2013—
August 2014), it has been increasingly difficult to progress our investigations due to various
legal challenges by Post Office. There have been considerable delays in receiving responses to
requests for information and legal issues have been raised, such as Data Protection and Legal
Privilege, as being the reason various documents could no longer be provided to us.

26.3. We found that types of document previously provided to us without restriction were no
Jonger being provided. Some of these documents were also not being provided to Post Office's
in-house team of investigators.

26.4. We can only conclude that this represented a policy decision by Post Office at a senior
level, possibly based on legal advice. We consider this regrettable, particularly in the light of
assurances previously provided to ourselves, MPs and the JFSA.”
138. Furthermore, at the same time the Post Office published its own rebuttal! of the
Second Sight report, which should have been treated as a warning sign that all was

not well.

139. Taken together, the strong criticisms expressed by Second Sight, the withdrawal of
the MPs’ support for the mediation process, Post Office’s decision to terminate the
process and the concerns expressed by the Select Committee should have stimulated
active intervention by the Government. However, Ministers were given misleading
and materially incomplete information — by both the Post Office and officials in ShEx
— and were actively advised that there was no problem requiring their detailed
involvement. Had the advice and information provided been different, it might have

been possible to cut short the scandal by some five years.
The Swift Review

140. However, as events unfolded, another opportunity to bring the scandal to light
emerged within a few months through another route, due to the proactive work of
Baroness Neville-Rolfe, Jo Swinson’s successor as responsible Minister from 12 May

2015. After receiving further representations from MPs, Baroness Neville-Rolfe

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arranged a meeting with MPs and Post Office executives in mid-July 2015. Following
this, and in light of other meetings and information, she requested the incoming Chair
of the Post Office, Tim Parker, to investigate the concerns being raised about

Horizon. Her letter confirming this on 10 September 2015 was clear:!0+

“The Government takes seriously the concerns raised by individuals and MPs regarding the
Post Office Horizon system and the suggestions that there may have been miscarriages of justice
.-» I am therefore requesting that, on assuming your role as Chair, you give this matter your
earliest attention and, if you determine that any further action is necessary, will take steps to

ensure that happens.”

141. Tim Parker told Baroness Neville-Rolfe at the beginning of October 2015 that he

would instruct Jonathan Swift KC to conduct the review.!%

142. Tim Parker sent the Minister a letter in early March 2016 updating her on the progress
of the review.'°° However, the letter failed to make clear that he had by then received
Jonathan Swift’s final report (which, based on deficient legal advice, he did not share
with Post Office’s board or the Department). As Baroness Neville-Rolfe commented
in evidence to the Inquiry, Mr Parker’s reassuring summary in the letter was “saterially
misleading’ as a summary of Jonathan Swift’s report.'!°’ Most importantly, it failed to
mention findings highly critical of the Post Office in relation to its prosecution of
postmasters. The letter was described as an “update” presenting “initial” findings,
and indicated that further work was in progress. Even setting to one side the failure
accurately to reflect the contents of the Jonathan Swift’s report, the letter failed to

meet the Minister’s original remit and was unsatisfactory in many respects:

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a. It noted that the investigation had been confined to the period 2010-2015, even
though problems with Horizon had begun from its launch in 2000. No reason

was given for this constraint.

b. On prosecutions — which had been central to the complaints of many MPs — it
said no more than that the safety of convictions was a matter for the CCRC and

Court of Appeal.

c. In considering Second Sight’s concerns that full information about the contents
of legal files had not been disclosed to them, it considered only one of the five
reasons which paragraph 2.4 of Second Sight’s Part Two report gave for

disclosure.

d. — Itdid not consider the contractual issues which had been raised by Second Sight

and which were crucial to the treatment of postmasters.

e. It remitted most follow-up actions to the Post Office, undermining the need
for independence. As Baroness Neville-Rolfe explained when giving evidence
to the Inquiry, the impression she got from this letter was that the review was
ongoing and that there was still considerable work to do, She was
understandably upset about the fact she was not provided with a copy of
Jonathan Swift’s report or even informed that it existed.!°° Given what she was
told, it was reasonable for her to leave the matter with Mr Parker and assume
that the matter was being taken forward by him. She met with him on 27 April
2016 and he did not seek to correct her understanding that his review was
ongoing. She never saw the draft letter produced by Mr Parker which said he
had been advised to bring the review work to an immediate end as a result of
the litigation, and she was unaware that this decision had been taken.! The

reasons why Tim Parker failed to inform the Government that the review had

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been cut short prior to completion of the promised work streams remain

unclear.

143. Shortly afterwards, in July 2016, Baroness Neville-Rolfe moved to a different
Ministerial position. UKGI!'" officials did not inform her successor, Margot James,
of the existence of the Swift Review nor brief her in any detailed way on Tim Parker’s

work, '!! This was another missed opportunity.

144. Given the scale of concerns described above, ShEx / UKGI should have followed
up on Tim Parker’s letter. The relevant officials within UKGI should have ensured
that Baroness Neville-Rolfe’s successor was properly briefed on the matter and
encouraged to obtain an update from the Post Office. Further scrutiny at this point
may well have led to the Post Office board, UKGI officials and Ministers receiving
a copy of the Swift Review; and it is also likely that the decision to stop the follow-
up work recommended by Jonathan Swift would have been subject to serious

challenge.

145. However, whilst these were clearly missed opportunities, primary responsibility for
the failure lies with Post Office. Mr Parker should have disclosed the Swift Review
to the Post Office board and, via ShEx / UKGI, to the Department. When it came
to light, Sarah Munby rightly censured him for his failure to do so (she described the
letter sent to him in 2020 as “one of the harshest letters, if not the harshest letter, I have ever
written to a chair of an arms’-length body I've been involved with”)'\?, However, that was too
late for postmasters. If the Swift Review had been disclosed to the Post Office board
and the Department in March 2016, the scandal might have been resolved without

recourse to a long and gruelling High Court case.

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146. Mr Parker’s decision not to disseminate Jonathan Swift’s review was evidently based
on legal advice!!>. It is apparently yet another example of a lawyer — in this case
former Post Office General Counsel Jane MacLeod — giving seriously erroneous legal
advice; and one of many examples of the Post Office misusing and abusing legal

privilege as a basis to avoid external scrutiny.

The Group Litigation

147. The High Court case was launched in 2016. It was reasonable for the Department
initially to take the view that this was an example of an operational matter for Post
Office to deal with, in the same was as other litigation. However, when facing
litigation, particularly of this scale, the natural reaction of most organisations might
be to ask “are the allegations justified?”, The Government appears not to have asked
this question at the time, instead relying on the Post Office to obtain the right advice.
Given the scale and importance of the issues, it would have been sensible for officials
to have obtained a copy (or as a minimum a detailed summary) of the lawyers’ analysis
of the legal merits, and an explanation of the Post Office’s legal strategy. Based on
that, they may have suggested seeking a second opinion. They could and, at least in
hindsight, should also have considered whether the proposed approach to the legal
issues was appropriate for a publicly-owned company. However, it appears that no

consideration was given to these steps, and they were not raised with Ministers.

148. As the litigation progressed, more questions should have been asked; and when
concerns emerged, they should have been escalated. The Inquiry has heard from Tom
Cooper, the UKGI Shareholder NED on the Post Office board at the time, about
his growing concerns about the Post Office’s position as the High Court case
proceeded, in particular his doubts about the wisdom of the postmasters’ contract.

The evidence of the Ministers is that any such doubts were not conveyed to them.

149. A further problem was the lack of any proper contingency planning to prepare for
the eventuality of the Post Office losing the case. Even though it was clear that any

significant finding in favour of the claimants would have very substantial

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consequences for both the Post Office and postmasters, UKGI officials steadfastly
maintained the line that ‘this is an operational matter for the Post Office’. This seems

to have dominated UKGI’s own thinking and, in turn, the advice it gave to Ministers.

150. The Post Office effectively dismissed the claim as aggressive litigation by disaffected
individuals. This does not seem to have been subjected to any serious scrutiny within
Government. It was not until Fraser J issued his first judgment, describing the Post
Office’s case as amounting to “the 21st century equivalent of maintaining that the earth is

fla?’,''+ that settlement discussions began.

151. Throughout the trial, the Post Office’s litigation strategy was particularly high-handed
and, for a publicly-owned company, deplorably cynical. Indeed one of the objectives
was to make the costs to the claimant postmasters so high that they would have to
withdraw or settle; as Fraser J held in the Common Issues judgment, “The Post Office
has appeared determined to make this litigation, and therefore resolution of this intractable dispute,
as difficult and expensive as it can?''5 Of course, this was not brought to Ministers’

attention, nor were they advised to inquire as to the Post Office’s litigation strategy.

152. Sir Alex Chisholm described how, after he was initially briefed on the Horizon
litigation in May 2018, it was disappointingly difficult to get information out of the
Post Office, with considerable back-and-forth about an information sharing
protocol. He described how “POL'’s position in respect of providing BEIS officials and
ministers with information regarding the litigation was on a 'need to know basis' and indeed that

there was an institutionalised wariness about what the Department should be told’.\'6

153. Finally, on 17 October 2018, shortly before the Common Issues trial commenced,
the responsible Minister (Rt Hon. Kelly Tolhurst), Sir Alex Chisholm and relevant
UKGI and Departmental officials met Paula Vennells and her team for a detailed

briefing on the litigation. It is clear that both Kelly Tolhurst and Sir Alex Chisholm

"4 [2019] EWHC 3408 (QB) at para 929 (POL00112972)
"5 [2019] EWHC 606 at [544] (POL00113269)

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were worried about the litigation and thought the Post Office needed to do more to
plan for the possibility of losing and to consider settling. However, the Post Office
were confident in their prospects of success and offered to provide regular detailed

updates on the proceedings.!!7

154, Had Tom Cooper or other UKGI officials raised their concerns at an earlier stage, it
is possible that a detailed briefing such as that provided to the Minister in October
2018 would have taken place sometime earlier, and that Ministers would have chosen
to push the Post Office harder on their litigation strategy and the possibility of

settlement.

155. That said, as the Chair noted during Sir Alex Chisholm’s evidence,!!® there was no
clear window of opportunity for earlier settlement as it would have required both
parties to be willing to reach a compromise. The Department could have pressured
the Post Office to enter settlement negotiations, but that would have been a radical
step in the face of the Post Office’s own legal advice that it was likely to win (coupled
with the absence of a second opinion or other expert scrutiny). Even if the
Department had pushed hard for a settlement to be negotiated, the prospects of

reaching agreement with the postmaster group would have been at least questionable.

The recusal application

156. The Government could and arguably should also have acted differently in relation to

the recusal application in March 2019 following the Common Issues judgment.

157. It is clear that as soon as they were informed about the proposed appeal and recusal
application, both Kelly Tolhurst and the Secretary of State Rt Hon. Greg Clark
thought it was an astonishingly bad idea. They had both immediately realised the
judgment was very serious indeed for the Post Office and expected it fundamentally

to change its approach in response.''!? Their views were very robustly expressed to

"” UKGI00008554
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Tom Cooper of UKGI. Sir Alex Chisholm was also asked to consider the issue and
was also clear (albeit using more moderate language) that he considered the appeal
and recusal application should not be taken forward. When giving evidence, Kelly
Tolhurst expressed her disappointment that, though she was accountable as Minister,

she lacked the power to prevent the Post Office from making the application.!”°

158. What subsequently happened remains somewhat confused, but what does seem clear
is that (acting on legal advice) Tom Cooper attended the Post Office board meeting
at which the recusal application was discussed, took part in the discussion in some
way, and then absented himself from the actual decision. This appears to have arisen
on the basis that it would be improper for anyone associated with the Government
to be involved in a decision impugning a judge. However, this does not explain why
Tom Cooper could not have attended the meeting, conveyed the assessment of the
Permanent Secretary, Minister and Secretary of State clearly and forcefully, and voted
against making the recusal application.'*! This would not have created any conflict of
interest, nor would it have undermined the separation of powers or independence of
the judiciary. If he had done so, it could potentially have identified the absurdity of
Lord Grabiner KC’s advice that the Post Office was somehow under a “duty” to seek
to recuse Fraser J, and swung the debate. It certainly would have made the Post Office
Board think very hard indeed about their decision. This was another missed

opportunity.

159. However, it is hard to tell whether at this point such an intervention from
Government would have made any material difference to the overall outcome. As
noted above, by this time the opportunity for meaningful settlement negotiations had

very probably passed.

160. In any event, the Government’s approach changed markedly from May 2019, with
strong scrutiny of the Post Office’s leadership initiated by Ministers. In that month,

as a result of the Post Office appealing the Common Issues judgment, Kelly Tolhurst

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decided that she wanted to “change POL’s board around’ and that she would like to
“meet with the Chairman separately to... ask that he considers his position.”\?? Departmental
officials had a call with the Minister the following day to discuss the risks of such an
approach.'?5 In the light of that discussion, on 29 May 2019 Kelly Tolhurst sent Tim
Parker a letter which requested information about the implications of the case, the
legal strategy and the new legal team,'*4 to which Tim Parker replied on 3 June
2019.'2 The Post Office’s interim CEO, Alisdair Cameron, subsequently reported

the Minister’s disappointment that “at fimes she had been under communicated with” 126

161. On 4 June 2019, at a meeting with BEIS and UKGI officials'”’ the Secretary of State,
supported by Kelly Tolhurst, expressed “serious concerns about the direction of travel of the
litigation and POL’s handling of it’. They “referenced the first judgment and particularly the
recusal application as evidence of poor judgement of the board.” The Secretary of State “gave a
clear steer that he wanted the department to be on the side of postmaster’’. He said it felt like
there were “shades of Windrush’ in respect of “the potential for a number of injustices to come
out’. He asked for a strategy to “ensure the litigation is settled quickly and put BEIS on the
side of postmasters; and consider how we deal with the ongoing management of POL given the

concerns Ministers have on Board performance’.

162. The Secretary of State agreed to take forward all seven options presented by

Departmental officials in a submission dated 11 June 2019.78 These included:

a. Challenging the Chair and Board to review their litigation strategy, consider

opportunities for early settlement and set out an action plan;

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Commissioning the Post Office to consider how to structure and operate a
settlement, including a fund to award redress to others affected by Horizon

shortfalls;

Public statements by BEIS Ministers to state publicly that they want to see

justice resulting from litigation for claimants with valid claims;

Challenging the Post Office to announce that it was taking on board some of
the legitimate criticisms in the judgments to date and is taking action to address

them;

Closer scrutiny of Post Office’s legal decision making by putting UKGI’s legal

counsel on the Post Office litigation sub-committee;

Asking Nigel Boardman, Chair of the Department’s Audit and Risk Committee,
to carry out independent due diligence on the Post Office’s litigation strategy;

and

Putting in place more robust information-sharing arrangements.

At a meeting with Kelly Tolhurst and BEIS and UKGI officials on 24 June 2019, the

Post Office leadership said that they would prefer to reach a settlement on the case

before the Further Issues trial commenced. Figures ranging from £40 million to £224

million were discussed. The Minister asked the Post Office to work with the

Department and UKGI on their planning for a potential settlement.'7°

As the Inquiry is aware, the settlement was eventually agreed in December 2019. The

settlement figure was agreed with the Department, and officials and Ministers

reasonably assumed that it was an acceptable outcome for the postmaster claimants

which properly valued their losses.

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WHY DID GOVERNMENT NOT ACT DIFFERENTLY?

165. The previous section identified specific episodes where the Department believes that
Government intervention might have prevented the scandal. This part sets out the
Department’s analysis of the reasons why events unfolded in the way they did, from

a central Government perspective. They include:

a. The lack of a Departmental policy team;

b. Provision of incomplete or misleading information by the Post Office;
c. The role of lawyers;

d. A lack of willingness by ShEx / UKGI to challenge;

e Failure of governance systems;

f. Groupthink;

g. A lack of institutional memory.

Lack of Departmental policy team

166. The Department had no policy team of its own to advise Ministers and the
Permanent Secretary on Post Office policy until 2018, relying solely on ShEx/UKGI.

This was, with hindsight, a serious mistake.

167. ShEx was, until 2016, a directorate within the Department, and was considered
(within both ShEx and the broader Department) to be competent to fulfil both the
corporate governance and corporate finance function and policy function relevant to
the Post Office. As Sir Martin Donnelly observed,'*° no concerns were ever raised

with him that this was not an appropriate model.

168. However, it is evident that the objectives of ShEx, and the skills and background of

many of its staff, were focused on corporate finance and governance matters. The

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same evidently remained true when ShEx’s functions and staff were transferred to
UKGI in 2016. In addition, once ShEx was succeeded by UKGI in 2016, its
relationship with the Department naturally became more distant. This made the

absence of a Departmental policy team more critical.

169. By 2018, this had belatedly been recognised as a serious problem. As at April 2018,
UKGI assessed the Post Office as ‘red’ on its risk register for ‘departmental
relationship’.!>! Mark Russell explained this was because UKGI was increasingly
anxious for the policy role to return to the Department, leaving UKGI with just the
shareholder role, as the Post Office was the only asset for which UKGI had a policy

function.!°2

170. The Department recognises — and apologises unreservedly — for the consequences
that appear to have flowed from the absence of a Departmental policy team, which
meant ShEx / UKGI were left to undertake both the corporate finance / governance
and policy roles. As set out above, these include the “two-hatted” conflict (or
perception of conflict), less instinctive adherence to the Civil Service Code, and a

susceptibility to the Post Office’s groupthink.

Provision of incomplete or misleading information by the Post Office

171. The Inquiry heard in detail about the fact that crucial documents like the Clarke
Advice were not shared promptly or fully within the Post Office executive or with

the board, and were not provided to ShEx / UKGI, or through them to Ministers.'>>

172. The failure to pass crucial information about Horizon concerns up the chain seems
to have started from very early on in the unfolding scandal. For example, the Inquiry
heard how in 2004 the Post Office settled a claim brought by a postmaster, Ms

Wolstenholme, as a result of a joint report by a computer expert making it clear

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Horizon was defective and likely to be the reason for the shortfalls on her system.'5+
Yet the Managing Director did not hear about it, nor did it go any further. Had it
done so, many of the ensuing events might have been prevented.'> Even though the
continuing relevance of the report was (or should have been) blindingly obvious as
similar issues continued to emerge, no-one within the Post Office raised it as a
concern or ensured that it was disclosed — the reasons are shrouded in mystery, but
at the very least this indicates long-term institutional dysfunction (and reflects

recurring problems with its institutional memory and record keeping).

173. Throughout the relevant period there seems generally to have been an attitude within
the Post Office that Government and Parliamentary scrutiny of Horizon issues was

a peril to be avoided. For instance:

a. As early as 21 July 2010, in the light of MPs raising questions about postmasters’
cases, ShEx requested further detail on “ow confident [the Post Office] is that
there is nothing behind these claims?.'6 David Smith, then Post Office Managing
Director, explained that internally he asked for further investigation, but did

not convey this to ShEx as he wanted to give them confidence.'3”

b. — Mark Davies produced a memorandum for the Post Office executive team on
16 April 2015'58 which sought to “remove Sparrow [i.e. Horizon problems] from
the spotlighf’. When challenged on it during his oral evidence, he still considered

this to be the “right thing to do” °°

c. Paula Vennells was asked in evidence why she was briefed by Jane Hill, then

Post Office Head of Public Affairs, to adopt a strategy of withholding

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information from the BIS Select Committee in February 2015 unless pushed

further, and was unable to provide a coherent explanation.'*”

d. Tim Parker explained how Jane MacLeod, then the General Counsel, advised
him in 2016 that he could not share the Swift Review with the wider Post Office
board or the Department because it was privileged or out of concerns about it
being subject to Freedom of Information requests,'!! although (perhaps
understandably as a non-lawyer) he was unable to explain why it was
ptivileged.'4? This was one of many examples of the Post Office (at the
instigation or acquiescence of their lawyers) misusing and abusing the important

principle of legal privilege as a pretext to avoid external scrutiny.

174, On many occasions the information which the Post Office and its leadership
provided to MPs, Ministers and Government officials was simply false. It is for the
Inquiry to determine whether this was intentional and whether the senior figures in
the Post Office who conveyed the information were aware it was false, or were in

turn misled by their staff. To give just a few examples:

a. Rod Ismay failed to correct an inaccurate briefing provided by the Post Office
to the Department in November 2010, which stated that Horizon was robust
without identifying the receipts and payments mismatch bug or remote access,

despite having been told about them days earlier.'4>

b. Paula Vennells wrote to Sir Oliver Letwin (campaigning MP and Cabinet Office
Minister) on 4 April 2012 and gave the direct assurance that when postmasters
had been prosecuted for theft or false accounting “In every instance, the courts have

found in our favour.’\4 This was not true.

29 May 2024/Vennells/189/16 (INQ00001151)

“413 July 2024/Parker/84/12 (INQ00001170)

"3 July 2024/Parker/77/15 (INQ00001170)

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c. Paula Vennells was also advised to adopt a strategy of withholding relevant

information from the Business Select Committee unless pushed.'*

d. Paula Vennells was aware that Second Sight’s interim report could not!#° give
the assurance that there were no systemic issues in Horizon, and yet under her

leadership the Post Office continually maintained that it did.'47

e. Mark Davies, the architect of Post Office’s “communications strategy”, drafted
a misleading press summary of the interim Second Sight report in 2014'48,
adopted a strategy to avoid and minimise Government scrutiny of Post Office’s
handling of Horizon issues!*, and regularly worked with Richard Callard and
other ShEx / UKGI officials to provide (inaccurate and partial) information to

Ministers.'5°

f. On 9 March 2015, Paula Vennells wrote a letter to Jo Swinson containing the
express assurance that the Post Office was compliant with its duty of ongoing
disclosure as a prosecutor and that there was no reason found to conclude any
prosecutions were unsafe.'5! There was no mention of the Clarke advice or

subsequent fallout. The assurance was false.

g. Tim Parker’s summary (as drafted for him by Jane MacLeod) of the Swift
Review, provided to both the Post Office board and Baroness Neville-Rolfe in
carly 2016, was materially misleading, as Baroness Neville-Rolfe observed when

she saw a copy of the full report.!5? Mr Parker himself accepted that it

5.22 May 2024/Vennells/190/16 (INQ00001151)

“© And indeed did not; cf 14 May 2024/Davies/108/21 (INQ00001146)
7 23 May 2024/Vennells/32/25 (INQ00001152)

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“underplayed” the actual conclusions and recommendations in the Swift

Review.!3

The role of lawyers

175. The part played by lawyers is a recurring theme running through this scandal. It is
apparent now that there was a sustained failure by Post Office lawyers to disclose
exculpatory evidence to individuals that they were prosecuting or had prosecuted!*4
and that there was a failure to inform their expert witness of their duty to the court.'5>
It is also clear that the Post Office’s assertion of legal professional privilege and
confidentiality was regularly used as a mechanism for the restricting of the flow of
information and avoiding external scrutiny. Further, it is clear that the Post Office
was on occasion given strikingly poor quality advice by external lawyers.'!5° This is

something that could not have been anticipated by anyone and is shocking in itself.

176. The role played by lawyers is significant on at least two levels: first, they by turns
misled and gave cover to the Post Office as an institution; and, second, they
fundamentally undermined Ministers’ justifiable belief and expectation that the justice
system was equipped to distinguish guilt and innocence. As this situation could not
be anticipated, there was misplaced confidence in legal process and conduct on the
part of not only postmasters but others including Ministers who had confidence in
the operation of the criminal justice system to achieve just outcomes. This led to a
belief, when assurances were provided by the Post Office, that claims by postmasters

were unfounded and the legal process should be allowed to run its course.

Lack of willingness by ShEx / UKGI to challenge

177. There was a lack of sufficient scepticism or willingness to challenge the Post Office

on the part of officials within ShEx / UKGI, particularly on policy matters rather

'S 3 July 2024/Parker/106/10 (INQ00001170)

3 May 2024/Jarnail Singh/38/20 (INQ00001141); 8 May 2024/Brian Altman KC/52/2
(INQ00001143)

5.2 May 2024/Martin Smith/181/3 (INQ00001140)

Eg, 11 June 2024/Grabiner/156/21 (INQ00001158); 3 July 2024/Parker/151/20
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than financial issues. Individuals working in any sponsorship or oversight function
within Government must build relationships with key people in the organisation in
question. However, those relationships should not be allowed to obscure the essence
of the role: to oversee, scrutinise and challenge on behalf of the Government. As
Mark Russell, ShEx / UKGI CEO recognised, it does not appear that this duty was

always understood and acted upon:!57

“Had we had more scepticism and curiosity on our own part, such that we interrogated further,
we might have concluded that a much fuller investigation of the system should have taken place
sooner. The fact that [Post Office Limited] was a relatively autonomous ALB would not have
stopped us recommending a comprehensive, independent investigation if we had felt this to be
necessary albeit that this would have signalled a loss of confidence in the POL. Management

and Board.”

178. Mark Russell also acknowledged that the strong and repeated assurances which ShEx
/ UKGI officials gave to Ministers “make for uncomfortable reading non’’.'8 In particular,
he noted that they should have been clearer that the information was received from
the Post Office and did not represent a balanced view setting out both sides of the
debate.'° The Department agrees. In several instances, the ShEx / UKGI advice to

Ministers does not appear to have accorded with the Civil Service Code.

179. Several of the Ministers who gave evidence to the Inquiry spoke of their frustration
at the advice they received from ShEx / UKGI officials at various stages, and how
they began to suspect that they were largely being given the Post Office line rather
than the objective, impartial and properly researched assessment to which they were
entitled. Some Ministers only became aware of the deficiencies in the information
and advice they received from ShEx / UKGI when presented with documents in the

course of the Inquiry, but were similarly critical.

7 Russell, 216 (WITN00800100); 9 July 2024/Russell/98/23 (INQ00001171)
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180. Jo Swinson’s oral evidence drew attention to the apparent failure to draw her
attention to relevant issues of which ShEx was aware, only visible to her when
provided with relevant evidence in preparation for the Inquiry.'® It is now clear that
while ShEx and the Post Office were discussing reducing the role of Second Sight,
Richard Callard did not mention this at all when briefing Ms Swinson as relevant
Minister on her return from maternity leave. In fact, only one sentence on the entire
Horizon situation was included within the briefing. She thought that his email which
stated “I want to get Jo Swinson] in the right place on Sparron’”\' tended to suggest,
contrary to her normal experience of working with civil servants, that he was hiding
a problem from her, rather than give her impartial advice.!°? She reflected that it
seemed to her that Post Office and ShEx had a “very cosy relationship', and observed
the irony in Richard Callard’s December 2014 complaint that Second Sight had ‘gone
native’, As is now clear, Second Sight’s judgements were right and ShEx / UKGI’s

judgements were wrong.

181. Baroness Neville-Rolfe remarked that she was concerned that ShEx officials were
too “coordinated” or aligned with the Post Office: “Obviously, they needed to go to the Post
Office to find out the facts, particularly on individual cases, but I was looking to them for ... the
kind of independent, objective advice that, as a former civil servant, I knew was the job of civil
servants.” She felt the need to request (but did not get) senior support from civil
servants outside ShEx.'® She noted that the ShEx advice to avoid further

involvement in Horizon issues was “very black and white?.\°° She summarised her

concern by August 2015 as follows:!67

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“By this time, I had lost confidence in the quality of ShEx's advice. We were going round in
circles, and they were unwilling to engage with the issues in the way I felt they needed to. In
my view ShEx had lost objectivity, and its officials were unable or unwilling to scrutinise
POL properly — even though that was an essential part of their role. The advice they gave
seemed closed minded, deaf to the issues and constantly repeating the same mantra. As time
went by I felt as though they were trying to obstruct, or shut down, my efforts to get to grips
with the issues. This may have been connected in some way to a dogmatic belief that ALBs
should be entirely free of Government interference; and certainly I was repeatedly advised that
POL should be left alone. I do recall feeling the pressure of the consistent advice from ShEx
that these were not matters for Government and to hold that official line, but based on what

I now Rnew that was no longer a tenable position.”

182. She went on to question the extent to which ShEx / UKGI officials properly
understood their role as public servants bound to act in accordance with the Nolan

principles:'65

“OQ. Do you think. things would have been different, from what you experienced, had the body
charged with oversight of the Post Office been composed of classic Civil Service Officials?

A, I'm not sure that they would have had the expertise to hold shareholdings in things like
the banks and the Post Office ... without commercial expertise. I'm not against commercial
expertise. I think what I was saying is that that's not necessarily sufficient. .... Susannah
Storey, who I think you're seeing later, whom I know from DCMS, I mean she was a civil
servant of the classic kind. So there was a mixture. But ... I'm not sure the Civil Service is
as good -- I remember when I went to work in the private sector, the whole of my first month
was induction, and I had three-hour meetings with all of the key directors -- three-hour
meetings, which I couldn't understand. The difference, when you go to work. in Civil Service,

is you're lucky to get a 15-minute meeting just to say hello to people.

Because it's very different, and what you have to do in the public sector is a bit different, I
think it's very, very important that they should understand that, and that, obviously, was an

understanding by Mr Callard. He felt that it was important to keep the lid on but,

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obviously, as a civil servant, it's not only keeping the lid on; it's also making sure that

you're doing the right thing.

Q. In terms of public duties and serving the public, did you perceive there to be any ethical

difference between ShEx officials and the rest of the civil servants who you worked with?

A, I don't think we discussed ethies but they obviously took a very narrow, focused view,
linked to their duties in terms of the commercial and strategic vision for the POL, and didn't
seem to focus so much on classic governance issues like, you know, the risk. from these
prosecutions, which would be something that, as a civil servant, you're always looking at the

downside, as well as the commercial opportunity.

Q. Finally, Baroness, this narrow vien, this lack of focus on more public interest-type
problems, such as prosecution, is that, on your evidence, the fault in the system which prevented
jou from being able to carry out your ministerial duties in terms of receiving the right

information?

A. I think it was also to do with the particular individuals because I gave them lots of
openings, saying, you knon, "What's in the Second Sight Report?" If I had been, my previous
self, sitting in that seat, I would have gone away and I would have read the whole of the Second
Sight Report and I would have gone through all of the negative findings and I would have then
wanted to do my own job, understanding what was right and what was wrong. That wasn't

done.

What they did was take advice from the Post Office because they felt the Post Office could give
the answers and that isn't what you do. As a good civil servant, you bring -- you look, at

different -- you knon,, you look at different sources.”

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183. Baroness Neville-Rolfe observed that where people without a Civil Service
background are joining public service roles, good recruitment, training, induction and

management are critical.'6?

184. Kelly Tolhurst described how she became concerned as the group litigation
progressed that Tom Cooper, the UKGI Shareholder NED, had “Jost his independence

from POL and was not providing effective challenge or scrutiny."

Lack of policy focus within ShEx / UKGI

185. Relatedly, the lack of policy focus, skills and experience within ShEx / UKGI created
unintended issues. ShEx / UKGI’s staff bring invaluable expertise in corporate
governance and finance which few civil servants can match. But they (or at least some
of those given the Post Office brief) had grown up outside the civil service and may
not have been equally imbued in civil service values or have acute political antennae.
Their backgrounds were in finance, and so they were at greater risk of taking a
narrow, focused view in terms of the commercial and strategic vision for the Post
Office, and not applying a wider public policy lens.'7! In addition, Ministers did not
have access to civil servants who had that focus, skills and experience. The Rt Hon.

Greg Clark explained the problem in the following terms:

“T've got great respect for the people who, often after distinguished commercial careers, give up
their time to be on the Board of UKGI and to serve in the public interest, and 1 don't want
to say anything critical about them. But I think there is -- I have reflected on this over the
weeks and months ahead -- I think there's something of a kind of Emperor's New Clothes
quality to UKGI, as an organisation, that, with hindsight, I think I and perhaps others
should have pointed out. I mean, let me give you some examples, some of them perhaps trivial.
It talks about its "assets", the whole time, "We are managing the asset", "We are dealing
nith"'- "These are our assets". It's a peculiar way of talking. These are, you know, the Post

Office, the Nuclear Decommissioning Authority, Ordnance Survey. They're not assets... no

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one in Government would talk, about the "assets". They are organisations, they are public

bodies; why not call them public bodies??

186. Margot James had a similar concern, noting that the fact UKGI reports to the
Treasury heightens the risk that UKGI’s dominant focus is on the achievement of

financial objectives.'72

187. The relative lack of political antennae may explain why ShEx / UKGI officials did
not see fit to inform the Minister or Secretary of State that they (and the Post Office
board) had serious concerns about Paula Vennells’s capabilities as a CEO, and that
one of the concerns related to her failure to get a grip on Horizon issues. Jo Swinson
noted that this information was not shared with Ministers, stating that “it just stuns me

that that can be happening? 17

188. Whether the perceived conflict of interest is real or imagined, it may also be the case
that a single ShEx / UKGI official should not simultaneously undertake both
scrutiny and oversight functions on behalf of the Government and also Post Office
board functions as Shareholder NED. The Department notes that at paragraph 3.45
of the Magnox Inquiry Report!™4, Steve Holliday found that ShEx / UKGI’s similarly
hybrid role in the case of the Nuclear Decommissioning Authority “resu/ted in a blurring
of its oversight role, and compromised the rigorous independence required for successful oversight.”
Similarly, in its October 2024 policy paper, the IoD noted concerns about how the
Shareholder NED worked in practice, and suggested that “The public interest may be

better served if [UKGI} were to operate more of an arm length stewardship role” ."7

Failure of governance systems

189. The governance systems which were thought to be “best practice” and which sat
within a wider legal and regulatory ecosystem were unable to deter or prevent poor

quality decision making. The Inquiry has heard evidence of the relative lack of

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training and relevant experience of the ShEx / UKGI Shareholder NED

appointments, an issue also referred to by the IoD in its October 2024 policy paper.'7°

190. ShEx / UKGI had in place what they considered, and still consider, to be good risk
management systems.'”’ They knew that trust was fundamental in a shareholding
relationship and did not expect it to be betrayed;'”* they had in place a handbook,
annual guidance, framework agreement and chairman’s letter process, all of which
“expected full and frank, honest, well-founded, detailed responses to questions that we might be

asking?179

191, Everyone within the Government also trusted the courts to arbitrate innocence and
guilt, and the fact that Horizon had (so it was said) been examined in court many
times and held to be reliable was a major reassurance.!8° As Rt Hon. Pat McFadden

explained:!*!

“The Post Office kept insisting that the system was robust and fit for purpose. They kept
expressing their faith in it and they're using court judgments as a proof point. Now, of course,
the terrible thing here is that these court judgments were found to be unsafe and unsound but
I didn't know that at the time and, you know, it took a long time for those court judgments

to be overturned: many years after they took. place, in some cases.”

Groupthink

192. Groupthink within the Post Office may over time have infected (some of) the ShEx

/ UKGI officials whose job it was to oversee and scrutinise the Post Office.

"© ToD October 2024 policy paper (RLIT0000412)

9 July 2024/Russell/66/18 (INQ00001171); 9 July 2024/Swannell/ 160/10 (INQ00001171)
"9 July 2024/Swannell/176/3 (INQ00001171)

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The pernicious phenomenon of groupthink within public institutions was recently
explored during the UK Covid-19 Inquiry. In her Module 1 report,!*? Baroness

Hallett described it at as follows:

“On its own, ‘groupthink’ is simply a description of an outcome. It is necessary to understand
how and why it happens and what can be done to remedy it. The dynamics of being part of a
group may explicitly or implicitly encourage consensus and discourage internal challenge to
consider alternatives. This may result in irrational or poor decision-making, However,
consensus by itself is not necessarily a bad thing, provided there is adequate discussion before

a consensus is reached and provided it remains open to being challenged.”

The concept of groupthink is, of course, substantially more complex than Baroness
Hallett could hope to reflect in her report. In his 1972 paper “Victims of groupthink: A
psychological study of foreign-policy decisions and fiascoes’, Prof. Irving Janis described
groupthink as a psychological drive for harmony and consensus that suppresses
dissent and appraisal of alternatives in cohesive decision-making groups and leads to
poor decision-making outcomes.'®’ A group is especially vulnerable to groupthink
when its members are similar in background, when the group is insulated from
outside opinions, and when there are no clear rules for decision making. The Inquiry
may consider that several of the eight main symptoms of groupthink, as identified by

Janis, were exhibited by the Post Office during this scandal.

Groupthink is the result of a failure of organisational structure, leadership and/or
culture. The apparent causes of groupthink within the Post Office are touched upon
in paragraph 75 above. Many of the compelling observations of Dame Sandra
Dawson and Dr Katy Steward also tend to a conclusion that the Post Office suffered

badly from groupthink.

"2 UK Covid-19 Inquiry Module 1 Report at paragraph 6.43 (RLIT0000471)

'S Perhaps the most well-known example of groupthink is the organisational structure and culture
which led to the Challenger disaster. See (for example) David Epstein, “Range”, Chapter 11.

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196. Baroness Hallett recommended the regular use of ‘red teams’, whose sole job is to
challenge accepted orthodoxies, as a way to combat the effects of institutional

groupthink within public bodies.'§+

197. The Inquiry’s attention is also drawn to paragraphs 6.56 to 6.57 and 6.61 to 6.66 of

Baroness Hallett’s report.

198. Groupthink — coupled with a lack of official candour and a failure to comply with
the Nolan principles — was also a cause of the infected blood scandal: see Sir Brian

Langstaff’s Infected Blood Inquiry Report Volume 1.!85
199, And groupthink was also a theme identified in the Magnox Inquiry Report.'8°

200. The Inquiry has heard evidence that ShEx / UKGI’s submissions to Ministers
disregarded critical stakeholder comment as an irritant, and treated them as
intrinsically unreliable.!®’ It is true that in any field, stakeholders’ comments are
sometimes based on misunderstandings, do not take account of the full picture, or
are made in furtherance of a particular hobby-horse; but this is not a basis to discount
or ignore them out of hand. Any communications from MPs should have been
treated seriously; as Baroness Neville-Rolfe commented, MPs “are really important ...

because they sometimes bring ... unwelcome bits of information to you” 1°88

201. By 2015 the postmasters’ complaints were being backed by 140 MPs of all major
parties — roughly a quarter of all MPs. Many of them were not serial critics of the
Government, and indeed they included a senior Cabinet Minister (Sir Oliver Letwin).
They also had the support of the BIS Select Committee. Career civil servants are

likely to have picked up this groundswell as pointing to something that needed to be

' UK Covid-19 Inquiry Module 1 Report, Paragraphs 6.58-6.60 (RLIT0000471)
'S5 Infected Blood Inquiry Report Volume 1, Page 252 (RLIT0000470)

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addressed. As Baroness Neville-Rolfe explained, it was hearing from MPs directly

that changed her own perspective:!*?

‘T'd got all this evidence that everything was fine, that there was nothing wrong, that there'd
been an independent inquiry which actually told us that the Post Office was right, and yet the
people who were, as it were, going down were terribly honest citizens. I have to say this is the
thing that worried me...but I didn't actually have any information to support my case until T
had this meeting and Andrew Bridgen and Kevan started to, you know, list some of these

points. That was my sort of road to Damascus, if you will...”

202. All of this could and should have led to far more intensive scrutiny of and challenge

to the Post Office groupthink by ShEx / UKGI officials.

203. The Department considers that the Departmental Post Office policy team, following
its creation in 2018, served as a bulwark against Post Office groupthink and ShEx /
UKGI “capture”. On a cross-Government basis, the Department notes that the
Government has committed to putting the duty of candour on a statutory footing,

backed by criminal sanctions.

Institutional memory

204, Institutional memory was affected by regular turnover of the Ministerial portfolio.
Each new Minister came into their brief fresh. To get up to speed, they needed time
but they also needed officials to provide them with an accurate briefing on the
important issues within their portfolio. Many of the Ministers explained to the Inquiry
that the briefings they received were, with hindsight, deficient in relation to Horizon

—and so it was back to square one with each new Minister.

205. The “revolving door” of Ministers was an issue highlighted by Baroness Hallett in her
Module 1 report in the UK Covid-19 Inquiry:!%°

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“A third cause of inaction was the lack. of institutional memory. This is often caused by
frequent and rapid changes in personnel and, as a consequence, a loss of experience and
knowledge. It is not a problem unique to government — it is a problem faced by all major

institutions.

Institutional memory includes internal knowledge, lessons learned, successful strategies and
past mistakes, and enables the business of government or some other organisation to continue
effectively across successive administrations. It is crucial that there is a simple and accessible
system for knowledge to be captured and shared. This is especially important when there is a
high turnover of officials and ministers — “churn in the system” or a “revolving door” of
ministers. An effective system of institutional memory requires a means of storing and accessing
exercise reports, action plans, emergency planning and guidance. This enables a full and open
discussion of what worked well and what did not, and the encouragement of a culture of debate

and challenge.

Understanding lessons of the past and retaining knowledge about past failures contributes to
more effective decision-making in the future and help to prevent the repetition of similar
mistakes. It also fosters innovation and is crucial for continuous improvement and building

resilience.”

206. Ministers should be able to rely on their officials, operating in accordance with the
Nolan principles, to retain relevant knowledge and learning and to provide an
appropriately informative initial briefing, and it should not be necessary for Ministers
themselves to dedicate time to providing a handover to their successor. The proposal
to introduce a statutory duty of candour should provide some additional assurance
that initial briefings (in common with all briefings) are suitably complete, accurate

and nuanced. Jo Swinson commented on this in the following terms:!9!

“To be clear, I don't think a cultural solution is sufficient but I also am supportive of the
suggestions that have come out, for example, about the Duty of Candour. But I would also
say that any official duty like that being put in will also not be sufficient without the right

culture in place. And I do think there was a different culture in ShEx that was not of the

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usual Civil Service culture, which, as I say, I found was generally a very helpful one that was
focused on the public good, and I think, while there is a need obviously, to have, you know,
relevant commercial experience when you're dealing with companies, actually, that mindset of
public service is an incredibly important part of what needs to be present in all civil servants,
even when dealing on commercial matters, and I think that's the culture - cultural element

that is important to instil?”

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207. The Department has already acted in response to its analysis of past shortcomings.

208.

Significant changes have already been made, many of which are detailed in Gareth

Davies’s witness statements.'°? These include:

a. The creation in 2018 of the Post Office policy team within the Department in
addition to UKGI, as set out above.

b. The adoption in 2019 of a Memorandum of Understanding!> between the
Department and UKGI.

c. New Shareholder powers being added to the Post Office’s Articles of
Association in 2020,'* particularly the new general power of direction.

d. Putting in place a Framework Document in 2020 setting out the expectations
between the Shareholder and the Post Office.!9>

e. A Government Internal Audit Agency review of the Department’s sponsorship
of the Post Office in June 2022, which led to Quarterly Shareholder Meetings
and other enhancements of the governance framework. !°°

f. Changes to the Post Office’s leadership, which is the essential precursor to

changing its culture.

Creation of Post Office policy team

An important step to strengthen the Government’s oversight of the Post Office was

the creation of a Post Office policy team within the Department. Whilst there have

been significant improvements in the sponsorship of public corporations which have

arisen from the creation of ShEx and then UKGI, it is clear that broader expertise

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was required in overseeing the Post Office; as set out above, the core ShEx / UKGI
skill set may have been insufficient to manage the public policy aspects of that
oversight role. Since 2018 responsibility for oversight has therefore been shared
between UKGI and the newly-formed Departmental Post Office policy team. The
policy team can draw on UKGI’s commercial expertise, but it also brings its own
appreciation of public policy concerns, including a greater awareness of the

importance of the input of stakeholders such as MPs.

Memorandum of Understanding

209. Lorna Gratton described how the relationship between the Government and the Post
Office now works in practice. The Memorandum of Understanding between UKGI
and the Department makes a distinction between the “policy function” carried out
by the Post Office policy team, and the “shareholder function” carried out by

UKGL.'7

210. The Department recognises that in the short- to medium-term it needs to remain
more hands on, both directly and through UKGI. The Inquiry has heard evidence
that various Post Office board members, even up until quite recently, have
considered the Department to be too involved and _ interventionist.!°° In
circumstances where Post Office’s institutional culture has been laid bare, that is
unrealistic. As Robert Swannell put it, “I think you'll see from those notes of meetings that, in
each of the meetings, [Tim Parker] says that the UKGI Non-Exec is being too interventionist and
I'm telling him that he’s got to be dreaming and that, in the circumstances in which he now found

himself, he should expect the length of the arm to be shortened”°.

Shareholder powers

211. The re-introduction of a general power of direction in the 2020 Articles of

Association means that one concern raised by Ministers (see, for example, the Rt Hon

"7 November 2024/Gratton/4/8 (INQ00001203)

"The current POL Company Secretary, Rachel Scarrabelotti, is also of this view: 4 October
2024/Scarrabelotti/84/6 (INQ00001191)

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Kelly Tolhurst?), namely that they did not have the usual Governmental powers
over a true Arm’s Length Body of being able to direct or demand information, has
been addressed. Had this power existed at the time of the recusal application, it is

very likely it would have been used.

212. There are various levers available to the Government to influence the governance
and management of the Post Office, including the “nuclear option” of dismissing the
Chair and “soft power” exercised through meetings between Ministers and senior
leaders of the Post Office. The danger of intervening too much is that it makes it
difficult to attract qualified individuals for the board, who need to feel empowered
to exercise oversight and take up their responsibilities to hold the company to
account.”°! However, in the current circumstances the Government is willing to be
more interventionist and is doing so through the Shareholder NED.”? As it showed
when removing Henry Staunton as Post Office Chair, the Department is willing to

wield its power when circumstances demand it.

Risk management

213. Risks are reported in a variety of ways to the Department. Lorna Gratton described
how in addition to a quarterly Shareholder meeting, she and her team provide a
monthly note to the Department’s relevant Director-General, David Bickerton, and

to the Permanent Secretary and Ministers, as well as having regular conversations

with Mr Bickerton and Carl Creswell.2°

Post Office culture and leadership

214, An obvious problem to be tackled is the need for ongoing cultural transformation at
the Post Office. The most obvious two problems have been: (a) the attitude towards
postmasters from those within Post Office central management; and (b) the lack of

openness and flow of accurate information within and from the Post Office.

2 17 July 2024/Tolhurst/172/8 (INQ00001176)

"I 7 November 2024/Gratton/7/14, 9/2 (INQ00001203)
7 November 2024/Gratton/12/21 (INQ00001203)
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215. The situation as at 2019 was neatly summarised by Robert Swannell, then Chair of

UKGI"+

“T think -- if you ask, me about what I think, went wrong, you'll hear this -- these two words
mentioned a number of times. I think it was a mixture of culture and curiosity... It's clear
to me -- it was clear to us then, and by then, I mean in 2019 -- that the culture at the Post
Office was shocking. And, by that, I mean that it was a closed, defensive culture that was not
in the business of giving information. I can't tell you whether information was withheld
deliberately or whether they simply didn't give it but, whatever the reason, there was -- there
were a whole range of things that should have been known to the Board of the Post Office and
then, therefore, to the ShEix / UKGI Board member and, as a result of that, to the UKGI
Board and, had it happened, you would have seen exactly what you saw in March 2019. We
would have been on it, in spades. And, sorry, the second point is curiosity, and I'm afraid
that when an incomplete curiosity, if I can put it that way, meets a toxic culture, bad things

happen.”

216. Attracting the right people to the Post Office in a state of crisis is not easy. However,
the Government has great confidence that the right team is now place. The
Department is fully supportive of Nigel Railton, the new Post Office Chair, and
confident that he is grasping the challenge of transforming its culture.?°> The presence
of the two postmaster NEDs assists in reorientating the mindset of the Post Office
leadership towards postmasters.2"6 Mr Railton has also set out a clear vision of
securing a better deal for postmasters both economically and operationally, and
“reversing the polarity’ of the Post Office, by putting postmasters at the centre with the
current central functions becoming a service function for the postmasters.”"” He has

also put in place a programme to implement a set of recommendations arising from

29 July 2024/Swannell/138/12 (INQ00001171)

*° 8 October 2024/Railton/141/18 (INQ00001192)

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a recent report by Grant Thornton about how to improve the governance

arrangements of the Post Office board itself.?°%

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REDRESS

Redress paid to date

217. As of 29 November, 2,941 people have accepted offers for Horizon redress under
the four schemes. A total of £499 million has been paid out. The table below gives

details. A similar table is published each month on gov.uk.

Scheme Claims Offers Offers Claims
received made accepted paid

Overturned Convictions (OC): 77 68 63 62

full and final settlements

Group Litigation Order Scheme 334 315 235 231

(GLO): full and final

Horizon Shortfall Scheme 2,417 2,417 2,088 2,083

(HSS): eligible claims before

deadline

Horizon Shortfall Scheme 2,385 765 457 428

(HSS): eligible late claims

Horizon Convictions Redress 98 98 98 82
Scheme (HCRS): full and final

All schemes 5,311 3,663 2,941 2,886

218. The Horizon Compensation Advisory Board met representatives of claimants’
lawyers on 31 October 2024.2 Claimants’ lawyers advised that subject to some issues
around fixed offers (which are discussed below), “all schemes were generally

providing fair levels of redress. The main issues were about pace”.
Evolution of the HSS

219. As noted above, the Department approved the terms of the settlement in the Group
Litigation. Post Office’s initial advice was that there were likely to be only 200
postmasters affected outside the 555 claimants in the Group Litigation. There was
no indication at that stage of the full damage which the scandal had done to the lives

of those affected. In particular the effects of the prosecutions on the health of

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postmasters were generally not known: postmasters have only been medically

assessed during the subsequent redress processes.

220. It was in this context that the Horizon Shortfall Scheme (HSS) was initially seen as a
process to bring a relatively small number of postmasters who had not been litigants
in the Group Litigation case onto the same footing as those who had. As Post Office
had wronged the postmasters the Department considered it was Post Office’s legal,

moral and practical responsibility to put those wrongs right.

221. Only during 2020 did it become clear that Post Office’s estimates had grossly
understated both the number of postmasters affected and the range and scale of harm
which many of them had experienced. The estimated cost of the scheme rose to over
£87 million. This change required not just a recasting of figures but a substantial

reconsideration of the whole scheme.

222. It became obvious at this stage that the Post Office did not have the resources to
fund the HSS. That meant that the Department would have to step in as funder,
which required extra resources to be agreed with the Treasury. It also meant that the
Department needed to be involved in the scheme’s governance. The Post Office also
needed to build the capability to deliver a large and complex redress scheme, but it

was constrained by the terms of the scheme which had already been published.

223. These steps took time. As Sarah Munby noted in oral evidence!” “... four months is
not particularly slow, in the context of resolving funding issues. Sort of in between spending reviews,
going back and asking for more money for things is really dificult.’ Decision-making in
Government — even at a routine level — is slower than in private-sector organisations
because it is rightly subject to much higher levels of scrutiny. Accounting Officers
can be held personally responsible by the Public Accounts Committee for failing to
achieve value for money. Ministers must be able to show Parliament and its Select

Committees — and, on occasion, the courts — that all aspects of a decision were

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properly thought through and took account of all material facts. Ensuring that these

high standards are met requires processes which inevitably take some time.

224, These factors led to regrettable delays in Government approvals which were
necessary to beginning the payment of redress under the HSS. However, once Post
Office started work in earnest, it did meet the goal of delivering 95% of redress by

the end of 2022.
Evolution of other schemes

225. The circumstances which led to the creation of four different routes to redress were

not foreseeable at the time of the Group Litigation Order (GLO) settlement:

a. Because the impacts of the scandal on individuals were not properly
understood, the settlement was largely seen as the settlement of a limited
commercial dispute. Only once the scale of harms being compensated through
the HSS became apparent did the case for providing additional redress to the

members of the GLO become clear.

b. It was known that convictions might be overturned by the CCRC and Court of
Appeal processes then under way. But it was not clear how many convictions
would be affected, and there was no expectation that those convictions would

be found to “offend the court’s sense of justice and propriety”.

c. The mass overturning of convictions by an Act of Parliament was

unforeseeable.

226. Had these circumstances been anticipated, the redress programme might well have

been set up in a different way.

227. The Department’s overall reflection is that the various different schemes caused
complexity and delay, and that in hindsight it would certainly have been preferable if
redress had been delivered as a single scheme and not operated by Post Office.
However, delivery of the HSS by Post Office was a requirement of the GLO

settlement with the JFSA and so was difficult to unpick or replace. Tom Cooper’s

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fourth written statement shows that in July 2020 the Post Office Board chose not to
ask the Department to take on delivery of the HSS. The Department has seen no
evidence that prior to 2024, Post Office or the JFSA subsequently sought to have its
delivery transferred to the Department.?!! The Post Office did seek to have

Overturned Convictions (OC) redress delivered by the Department in March 2021.2!

Focus on full and fair redress

228. Government witnesses spoke about processes and progress made in compensating
victims of the Horizon scandal. All witnesses made it clear in their written and oral
statements that the goal was always and continues to be delivering full and fair redress
as speedily as possible. Sarah Munby was adamant that the intention was clear and
she “never encountered anything that could be described as resistance or opposition to that intent,
from anyone” ?'> But it is clear that when translating that intent into action there have

been challenges and complexities to overcome. The most obvious are as follows:

a. The relatively long time it took to agree funding for the Horizon Shortfall
Scheme, both for the original scheme and for its re-opening for late

applications;

b. The difficulty in identifying a legal power to deliver redress for the GLO.
claimants, given that the GLO group had signed off the settlement with the
Post Office as “full and final”.

229. It is important to clarify two matters. The first is the suggestion made to several
witnesses that there might be a tension between redress being “full and fair” and
“fast”, and that at some point Ministers gave a steer that the redress should prioritise
‘fast’ over ‘full and fair’, In fact, the Department's clear position throughout has been
that speed should not come at the expense of fullness of redress. It is right to say that

under Rt Hon. Kemi Badenoch and Kevin Hollinrake there was a greater emphasis

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than previously placed on speed,?!* but this was at the risk of over-compensating
claimants, not under-compensating them, and was justified in terms of value for
money to the public purse because it was achieving the overall policy aim more
quickly. This approach has been continued by the current Government, but as
Secretary of State Jonathan Reynolds emphasised “I do not believe that increase in pace has

been at the cost of fair or accurate compensation being made.??'>

230. The second is the suggestion that “value for money” considerations played a role in
the payment of redress to individual postmasters. Value for money does not mean
simply minimising public spending: it is about the relationship between the delivery
of Government objectives and the cost of doing so. To take a simple generalised
example, good value for money could involve doubling spending in order to treble
the extent to which an objective was delivered. The clear objective of Ministers in
successive administrations has been to ensure full and fair redress to postmasters
affected by the scandal. Providing a postmaster with only half of the redress to which
he or she is entitled delivers only half of the objective, and is therefore no different
in value for money terms from making a full payment. However, value for money
considerations are relevant where there is a possibility of paying an individual more
redress than he or she is entitled to. They are also relevant to the costs of delivering

redress.

231. Every witness involved in the redress process confirmed that value for money does
not play a role in decisions on redress for individuals. Simon Recaldin, for example,
explained that it did play a role in terms of the processes being applied to provide
redress and their cost.2!© Ben Foat confirmed that value for money was a
consideration in terms of the overall “financial envelope” set aside for redress by the

Government, but not the actual payments made to individual postmasters.?!7

2441 November 2024/Badenoch/103/22 (INQ00001205)
*5 11 November 2024/Reynolds/6/4 (INQ00001205)

*!6 4 November 2024/Recaldin/29/22 (INQ00001200)

*7 18 October 2024/Foat/96/6 (INQ00001199)

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Support for claimants’ legal costs

232. The Inquiry has heard evidence that those claimants who were legally represented
were more likely to claim consequential losses.?!8 The Department notes that whilst
there is a correlation between these factors, causation may work either way. So legal
advice may make people more likely to claim consequential losses — but equally, those
with larger claims (who will tend to be those who suffered consequential losses) may

be more likely to have sought legal advice.
Fixed sum offers

233. The Inquiry has heard evidence from various witnesses about the fixed offers which
have been made to claimants under the various schemes - £600,000 for Horizon
Convictions Redress Scheme (HCRS) and OC claimants, and £75,000 for those in
the HSS and GLO — which were initially proposed by Kevin Hollinrake in the light

of his experience of other redress schemes.

234, The primary purpose of these payments was to accelerate the provision and
settlement of redress. As Kevin Hollinrake told the House of Commons on 18

September 2023:2!9

“Although good progress has been made on personal damages, ... progress on full and final

settlements has been slower.

That is why I can announce today that the Government have decided that postmasters who
have their convictions on the basis of Horizon evidence overturned should have the opportunity,
up front, to accept an offer of a fixed sum ... However, we hope that the change I am
announcing today will provide more reassurance and quicker compensation to those

postmasters who would prefer this option over going through the full assessment process.”

235. Redress was obviously accelerated for those who chose to take the fixed sums.

However, it was also accelerated for those who chose instead to have their claims

*!® Recaldin 6, 127 (WITN09890600); 4 November 2024/Recaldin/128/8 (INQ00001200)
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individually assessed — because it took the smaller claims out of the “queue” of cases
requiring both the time of claimants’ legal advisors and consideration by the

Department or the Post Office.
236. The fixed sum approach has a number of other benefits:

a. __ it greatly reduces the complexity of the process of applying for smaller amounts

of redress, and hence the stress to claimants;

b. it ensures that the process of getting redress is much less lawyer-heavy,

reflecting calls from many stakeholders;

c. it reduces the cost to Government of legal advice to claimants and to the

Government and Post Office.

237. The approach had disadvantages too. Most importantly, it involved paying a large
number of people more redress than they would otherwise have received. In some
cases the amounts were very substantial — a person with a £10,000 HSS claim would
receive £65,000 more than their assessed losses. Whilst there would have been
offsetting savings in legal and operational costs, these would have been much smaller.
Officials were initially concerned that the net excess amounts would not have met
the value for money requirements of Managing Public Money because they were not
directed to meeting the objective of full and fair redress. However, they subsequently
satisfied themselves that those amounts were justified by their contribution to the

separate objective of paying redress promptly.

238. HSS applicants were not offered support for reasonable legal costs in considering
fixed sum offers. In most cases such advice was clearly not necessary: someone with
a £20,000 claim would not need legal advice to know that a £75,000 offer was worth
taking. The Department appreciates that someone with a claim for say £85,000 might
find it a more difficult decision. It would be open to them to seek individual
assessment of their claim: they would be entitled to support with legal costs to

consider an offer.

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239. The Department recognises that some applicants to all schemes with claims just
above the fixed offer amount may well have chosen to take the fixed offer rather than
go through the process of individual assessment. That is a fair choice, balancing the
individual’s preference for more rapid redress and less stress against a possible higher

redress entitlement.

240. The Department has heard arguments that the fixed offer amounts should instead
have been offered as minimum payments or interim payments, or that those who
accept the HSS fixed offer should be able to enter the new HSS appeals scheme.
However, these changes would have defeated one of the central objectives of the
fixed offer — removing smaller claims from the “queue” for assessment so that larger
ones could be considered more quickly. Interim payments (although of smaller

amounts) are already made in the GLO, HCRS and OC schemes.

Further measures under consideration

241. The Department continues to work with the Post Office to make improvements to

the way in which redress is delivered. At present it is:

P

Funding the top-up of past HSS offers to match the £75,000 fixed payment

offer;

b. Developing an independent HSS appeals process as recommended by the

Advisory Board;

c. Considering whether to take over from the Post Office responsibility for

delivering the HSS and OC;

d. Considering whether to extend the redress schemes to cover the family
members of postmasters, and whether to extend the HSS to cover managers
and assistants working for postmasters, Post Office employees, and those who

were affected by the Capture software used by some postmasters in the 1990s.

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THE FUTURE OF OVERSIGHT AND REDRESS

242. The preceding sections of this statement have described actions which the
Department already has in hand in the light of its learning from this scandal, and
from its involvement in the delivery of redress. This section reviews suggestions for
wider changes to supervision of public bodies and improvements to the delivery of

redress for future scandals.

243. Several Departmental witnesses in Phase 7 referred to the possibility of creating a
new oversight or review body. For example, Rt Hon. Pat McFadden floated the idea
of an organisation that could launch an inquiry or take action in relation to any “arm’s
length” body when the level of allegations about it reached such the point that this

seemed the right thing to do.

244, Margot James put forward the concept of the Post Office being regulated by Ofcom

instead of or in addition to oversight by the Department and UKGI.?”

245. Sir Alex Chisholm also raised the possibility of an independent committee to
scrutinise “arm’s length” bodies, with mandatory reporting responsibilities to their
Board and the authority to write to the Secretary of State annually with any concerns,
and report periodically to Parliament.??! He also identified the main problem with

this type of approach:???

“T think in a perfect world you wouldn't need to have this because it obviously adds an extra
Jayer, and every additional layer creates scope for friction, cost and, you know, risk with that...
it's not a straightforward matter because then you have run the risk. of undermining the Board
and its own responsibilities and you've got sort of guards, for guards, for guards, and that

itself, you know, can create, can obscure the underlying reality.”
246. He did, however, note that in the particular circumstances of the Post Office, where

the Board had failed in its oversight responsibilities, and the management executive

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and internal legal teams had failed over many years to provide effective service,
causing “a ferrific breakdown in trus?? with both postmasters and the wider public,

special measures such as an independent oversight committee might be required.

247. Sir Vince Cable suggested the creation of a bespoke corporate structure for public
bodies such as Post Office Limited, to include a mechanism for putting them into a

form of “special measures”.??5

248. The Rt Hon. Greg Clark observed that Ministers are accountable to Parliament for
ALBs but have limited powers to control them. He made a similar suggestion for the
creation of a new form of “public interest company”, outside the Companies Act,
and removing some of the restrictions which stand in the way of Ministerial action
where necessary.24 The IoD adopted this suggestion in its October 2024 policy

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paper.?2

249. Dame Sandra Dawson and Dr Katy Steward did not support the NFSP’s suggestion
of an oversight committee for the Post Office, made up of representatives from
Government, consumer champions, postmaster representative bodies, and
representatives of key groups who rely upon the social purpose of the Post Office
such as older people or those from economically deprived areas, as well as specific

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experts where required.*° They were of the view that, in the end, it was for the Post

Office Board to own and find solutions for its problems.?27

250. The Rt Hon. Jonathan Reynolds committed to considering ideas to strengthen the
Post Office’s governance and oversight, but emphasised that the Government’s
immediate priority was to provide redress to those impacted by the scandal, and

noted that the details would need to be carefully thought through:??8

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25 July 2024/Clark/124/13 (INQ00001181)

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“TI would want to make sure that any governance change was, first of all, one that was
going to be effective. I mean, on paper, the existing structure could have been effective but
clearly wasn't. I also wouldn't want anything which is seen to sort of be outsourcing
responsibility for fixing these problems to a committee of people or whatever. I think that
might be perceived as the opposite of what we're trying to do in terms of facing up to and
providing redress in relation to this and providing a future which is one where we've got

confidence we've put these problems right.”

251. The Government is committed to bringing forward legislation that will introduce a
duty of candour on all public authorities and public servants, backed up by criminal
sanctions. The details are being considered carefully and will be brought before

Parliament in due course.
Redress

252. In July of this year the National Audit Office (NAO) published an “insight — lessons
learned” report??? which looked at a number of redress schemes, including the

Horizon schemes. It recommends that:

- “the Cabinet Office sets up, by the end of 2024, a centre of expertise within government to
provide guidance, expertise or a framenork for public bodies seeking to set up a compensation

scheme — this should be resourced sufficiently to provide advice to erasting and future schemes;

- the Cabinet Office reviews alternative arrangements, including structural arrangements, that
would allow compensation schemes to begin and operate in a more timely, efficient and effective
manner while earning the confidence of potential claimants. This review should consider a new
standing public body to act as a compensating authority to administer future time-limited

compensation schemes, and set out the changes it plans to make as a result of the review”.

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253. The NAO also identified 21 more operational lessons learned (Annex A), some of
which reflect the approach which has been taken to at least some of the Horizon

schemes.

254, The Horizon Compensation Advisory Board’s report?” was written by Professor
Chris Hodges, who was asked to join the Board as an expert in Alternative Dispute
Resolution. It, too, recommends delivery of future redress by an independent
standing body. It argues that the approach to redress should be investigative rather

than adversarial.

255. But it goes further, looking to reduce the chances of future scandals — or at least
expose them more quickly — by allowing appeals to the new body about complaints
against public services. A more circumscribed version of that role is currently played
by the Parliamentary and Health Services Ombudsman and various other

Ombudsman services.

256. The Government welcomes the recommendations of both the NAO and the
Advisory Board. It sees considerable attractions in the prospect that they might speed
the response to harm, improve the delivery of redress and (in the case of the Advisory

Board’s recommendations) reduce the risks of recurrence.

257. However, this would be a substantial change. Government would need to consider
any implications for existing arrangements such as the Ombudsmen. In the health
service, there is already a body that resolved clinical negligence claims (NHS
Resolution) and multiple bodies that deal with and learn from complaints,

investigations and inquiries.

258. Any proposed changes would also need to be discussed with the devolved

governments, in addition to whether they would want similar arrangements.

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259. The Government will want to think through the details, and hear the Inquiry’s view,
before reaching a conclusion on this. It intends to make a full response to the

Advisory Board’s proposal within six months of the Inquiry’s report.

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CONCLUSION

260. The scandal explored by this Inquiry has been appalling. In the spirit of self-reflection
promised at the outset, the Department has identified in this closing several occasions
on which it made mistakes, some of them serious, and has attempted to identify the

causes. Where the Department has made mistakes, it apologises unreservedly.

261. The Department has taken several very positive steps since this appalling scandal
came to light. It remains committed to implementing any further necessary changes,

and looks forward to the Inquiry’s findings and recommendations.

9 December 2024