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To: Jo Swinson B S
From: Richard Callar

Department for Business
15 December 2014 Innovation & Skills

Purpose

1. James Arbuthnot MP has secured a Westminster Hall Debate on the Case Review and
Mediation Scheme (“the Scheme”) that was established to provide a process for former-
subpostmasters to have their cases considered for mediation. It is overseen by an
independent Working Group. The Post Office is a member of the Working Group, but
does not ‘own’ or is responsible for the Working Group or the Scheme. Government is
independent of the scheme.

Your objectives
2. To be clear that matters concerning the Horizon system do not relate to any Government
action or policy decision, but are wholly operational matters in which HMG has no role;

3. To re-iterate that the independent Second Sight review published in July 2013 explicitly
confirmed that there are no systemic problems with the Horizon software;

4. To convey that following last year’s report, there have been further detailed investigations
into individual cases that corroborate the Post Office’s view that there are no issues with
the system;

5. Those detailed investigations have taken place as part of the Scheme that was designed
in concert with the JFSA, Second Sight and James Arbuthnot MP; and

6. The small number of subpostmasters who have made complaints are a minute proportion
of the tens of thousands (68,000) of people successfully using the system across the
network of over 11,500 branches on a daily basis.

Background to the Scheme
7. In response to the publication last year of the Second Sight report, you made a statement
to Parliament setting out three initiatives that the Post Office has since been delivering:

e Toset up a Working Group that includes the Justice for Subpostmasters
Alliance to review cases;

e To ensure an independent chair is appointed to oversee the process; and

e To provide a branch user forum providing a channel for subpostmasters to raise
concerns at the highest level in the business.

8. The Working Group comprises representatives from the JFSA, the Post Office and
Second Sight. It is overseen by an independent Chair, Sir Anthony Hooper, who was
recommended by the JFSA, and whose appointment was approved by members of the
Working Group. The Working Group, collectively, is responsible for the design and
delivery of the Scheme. Both are entirely independent of Government, which has played
no role in either the design or delivery of the Working Group or the Scheme. This is
entirely appropriate as HMG cannot intervene in any process that reviews past
convictions, as this should only properly be dealt with by the relevant judicial
authorities.

9. In simple terms, Post Office and members of the scheme present Second Sight with the
relevant information on each case. Second Sight then investigate, and present a report to

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the Working Group. As members of the Working Group, the JFSA and POL decide
whether a case should go to mediation. If there is a difference of opinion, the Chair
provides the casting vote. Mediation is nevertheless voluntary, and POL (or the
applicants) can decide whether to proceed or not (see below). Of the 24 cases that have
been recommended for mediation, POL has refused to mediate in only 2 cases. Annex E
shows a process map of the scheme.

Key facts on Progress

10.Sir Anthony Hooper has written to you with regard to progress of the scheme (Annex F).
This is summarised below:

e There were 150 applicants originally, of which 4 were ineligible
e Of the 146 remaining, 12 were resolved early

e Since that point, 24 cases have been proposed for mediation by the working
group:
o 2 of those were resolved before the mediation meeting
o7 have been mediated
o9 are waiting for mediation (3 scheduled for this week)
o 2 were rejected for mediation by the post office

11.He notes in the letter the issue of confidentiality means that he cannot share much greater
information about the respective cases than that noted above, including the results of
mediation. This is a core principle of the mediation process, as laid down by the Centre
for Effective Dispute Resolution (CDER) the external mediation provider, and in
accordance with the European Code of Conduct for Mediators.

12.It is worth noting that many of these cases involve highly personal details which members
of the scheme may not want disclosing, and such disclosure may dissuade other
members from continuing to participate in the scheme.

13.Sir Anthony notes that the scheme is not expected to be completed before around March
2015 (although POL’s view is that this will take until around November 2015). This is
longer than expected, but as explained in Sir Anthony's letter, this is a complex process
involving a number of parties, which took some time to design, and accuracy is more
important than speed, on balance.

14.To date, Post office has invested significant amounts in to the scheme, both in terms of
time and cost. In addition to POL’s internal costs in investigating the issues raised, they
also pay for Second Sight, and the applicants’ professional advisers.

Recent developments

15.On 8 December, James Arbuthnot published a letter (attached at annex C) placing heavy
criticism on the Post Office’s role in the Scheme, and announcing that he was withdrawing
his support for the Scheme and the Working Group. A high level summary of Arbuthnot’s
criticisms are set out below, and fuller rebuttals are included in the speech (Annex A) and
Q&A (Annex B). He also appeared on the Today programme, and the issue has also now
featured on The One Show.

16.On 10 December, ShEx became aware that the JFSA has instructed a legal firm, Edwin
Coe, to "pursue the rights" of subpostmasters whose claims are currently being
considered through the Scheme. The JFSA did not inform the Post Office (as joint
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member of the Working Group) of this and the nature of the instruction is not clear. The
Post Office has written to JFSA for more information about their intention. JFSA have
responded to say that they will continue to participate in the scheme, but it is unclear as
yet how this tallies with their intention with regard to separate legal action.

17.This change in behaviour by the JFSA and James Arbuthnot can be understood due to
the absence of any evidence of systemic issues with the Horizon system from either the
2013 independent report, or the further detailed investigations undertaken as part of the
Scheme. The JFSA (and James Arbuthnot MP as their sponsor) are possibly in an
increasingly uncomfortable position given that scheme members expectations have been
allowed to inflate when the reality is that few are likely to receive any compensation given
limited issues with the system have been found.

18.Although the outcomes of the mediation process are subject to strict confidentiality
arrangements, ShEx understands that where cases have been resolved with a financial
payment, the scale of these payments is very low and can be generally classed as
‘goodwill’. This is information that should not be relayed publicly as it relates to the
outcome of a confidential mediation process. Although neither JFSA nor James
Arbuthnot should be party to the outcome of the mediation processes, it appears that
applicants are feeding information to both parties’.

James Arbuthnot’s position

19.In his letter and accompanying press release of 8 December, James Arbuthnot and
others? focus on two key themes:

e The Post Office’s approach within the confines of the Scheme for those
applicants who were convicted following a guilty plea; and

e The interpretation of what is meant by ‘Horizon’.

20.On the first of these points, Arbuthnot is pushing a line that suggests the Post Office is
excluding 90% of applicants from mediation. This is a number that the Post Office does
not recognise (and does not reflect the progress noted above which shows that POL have
only refused to mediate 2 of the 24 cases recommended for mediation by the working
group).

21.James Arbuthnot is arguing that all cases should proceed to mediation as a default
position. This is contended by the Post Office that argue the purpose of the Working
Group is to consider applications on a case-by-case basis and to reach a decision
whether to mediate on its merits, where it offers the prospect of a fair resolution.

22. James Arbuthnot also wants cases that involve a subpostmaster who has been convicted
on a guilty plea to be mediated, but the Post Office is not accepting mediation in such
cases as this would undermine a judicial ruling. However, the Post Office is willing to
consider mediation for cases where a subpostmaster has been convicted but where their
application for mediation does not relate to that conviction (e.g. if the conviction relates to
false accounting, but the application relates to concerns about training).

23.On the second point (that the Post Office is changing the definition of what is meant by
Horizon), the scope of the investigation was recorded in Second Sight’s interim report as
the following:

1 For example, in James Arbutnot’s letter to Paula Vennells of 8 December, he quotes the minutes from the January
Working Group meeting, which are confidential.

? Mike Wood MP (Lab, Batley & Spen), Kevan Jones MP (Lab, North Durham), Huw Irranca-Davies MP (Lab, Ogmore),
Andrew Bridgen MP (Con, North West Leicestershire)

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“...Horizon relates to the entire application. This encompasses the software, both
bespoke and software packages, the computer hardware and communications equipment
installed in Branch and the central data centres. It includes the software used to control
and monitor the systems. In addition, ...... testing and training systems are also referred
to as Horizon”

24.The scheme was therefore set up with a very specific and defined purpose, but which was
sufficiently wide to encompass more than just the software. However, given the lack of
“smoking gun” found to date, the working group has come under pressure to widen its
remit still further, which POL are resisting.

List of annexes
A- Speech modules (see separate attachment)
B — Q&A (see separate attachment)
C - Arbuthnot letter and accompanying Press Release (8 December)
D - Paula Vennells letter (28 November)
E - Scheme process map
F - Letter from Sir Anthony Hooper (with attached letter from CDER)
G - Postal regulation and postal competition top lines

Copied to: Cable MPST; Hancock MPST; Perm Sec MPST; Cable SpAd MPST; Hancock
Spad; ShEx Post Office Team; Christina Murphy, Jo Fletcher
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Annex A-— Speech
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Annex B - Q&A
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Annex C — Arbuthnot letter (8 December)
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Annex D — Paula Vennells letter (28 November)
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Annex E — Scheme process map

Subpostmaster
Submits Application to

Case confymed as
Suitable for

favestigation

Post Office provides

information on the investigates the

Subpostmasters Subpostmasier's
ease case

Second Sight

Second Sight produces a Case
Review of 4s findings and a
fecommendation on whether the
case is suitable for mediation

Mediation Administrator
faises wilh Subposimaster to
arrange mediation

Mediation meeting

If an agreement is
feached, the case
is resolved

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Subpostmasier
engages
professional advisor

{optional)

Subposimaster
Submits Case
Questionnaire
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Annex F — Letter from Sir Anthony Hooper

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Annex G - Postal Regulation and Postal Competition Lines

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