WBON0000406 - Email from Gavin Matthews to Jess Webb Re Asvice and Speaking Notes

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From: "Matthews, Gavin" <(
To: "Webb, Jess" <<
Subject: FW: Advice and Speaking Notes. [BD-4A.FID20472253]
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 10:48:46 +0000
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Hi Jess

Please can you circulate details for a conference call with Brian Altman QC today at 6pm
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From: Matthews, Gavin
Sent: 16 July 2014 08:57
To: Parsons, Andrew; i
Cc: 'belinda.crowe@, Matthew Harris
Subject: Re: Advice and Speaking Notes. [BD-4A.FID20472253]

‘rodric.williams

Dear All

Brian has proposed a call at 6pm as he has other appointments before then.
Does that work for everyone?

Regards

Gavin

From: Parsons, Andrew
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 07:46 PM
To: ‘david.oliver1 GRO. i<david.oliver1@: GRO >; 'rodric.williams@I

Cc: ‘belinda :crowe@postoffice.co.uk' <belinda.crowe@” 3
Subject: Re: Advice and Speaking Notes. [BD-4A.FID20472253]

Matthew Harris; Matthews, Gavin

David

Brian can do a call tomorrow late afternoon (say around Spm) to talk through these issues and is happy to then
follow-up with an advice note later if required.

Does that work for POL? If so, we'll setup the call and confirm the time. May be worth having Chris on the call? If
so, is anytime around 5pm good for him?

Kind regards
Andy

Andrew Parsons

Senior Associate

for and on behalf of Bond Dickinson LLP
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Cc: Belinda Crowe < RO . >; Matthew Harris; Matthews, Gavin

Subject: RE: Advice and Speaking Notes. [BD-4A.FiD20472253]

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Thanks Andy. Can we also get Brian’s view on the caution vs sentenced point as Tony was dissmisive of the caution
in MO76 at the Working Group.

Thanks

David

David Oliver
Programme Manager
Initial Complaint and Mediation Scheme

From: Parsons, Andrew} GRO I

Sent: 15 July 2014 12:41

To: David Oliver1; Rodric Williams.

Cc: Belinda Crowe; Matthew Harris; Matthews, Gavin

Subject: Re: Advice and Speaking Notes. [BD-4A.FID20472253]

David - we're contacting Brian's clerks to see if he is around today / tomorrow.
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Andrew Parsons

Senior Associate

for and on behalf of Bond Dickinson LLP
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From: David Oliver1
Sent: Tuesday, July 15; 2014 117:
To: Parsons, Andrew; Rodric Williams ¢
Cc: Belinda Crowe
Subject: FW: Advice and Speaking Notes. [BD-4A.I 1020472253]

Andy,

I have just been discussing with Rod — he felt this would be worth getting Brian Altman to provide advice on. Not
sure if this will be possible ahead of the Working Group?

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David Oliver

Programme Manager

Initial Complaint and Mediation Scheme
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From: Parsons, Andrew!
Sent: 14 July 2014 10:47
To: Martin Smith

Cc: Jarnail Singh; David Oliver

Subject: RE: Advice and Speaking Notes. [BD-4A.FID20472253]

Martin

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Thanks for the advice below.

At the Working Group meeting last Thursday POL floated the idea of not mediating criminal cases (as per your advice)
and received fierce push back from JFSA and some resistance from Tony Hooper. For various reasons, we never
directly addressed the question of mediating M076 (Coates) or M057 (Banks) — those questions are likely to be raised
on the weekly WG call on Thursday.

POL would prefer to avoid leaving the WG with a "yes / no" decision on whether to mediate a criminal case or not. To
that end, we are considering the idea of holding a face to face meeting with the "criminal" applicants to the Scheme
rather than mediating. This allows POL to frame the meeting differently — for example, we could setup the meeting to
“explain POL's findings" rather than "settle" disputes, and make clear that no compromise is being offered.

POL have asked me to get your view on whether the criminal risk is different for this type of meeting rather than
mediating? If POL were to go down this route, please could you also advise on what steps / measures it could take to
further reduce any risk (eg. letters setting out the basis for the meeting, criminal lawyers at the meeting, etc.).

Please bear in mind that POL are going to get pushed hard on this topic by JFSA / Tony Hooper so your advice needs
to be very robust. We may need to set up a meeting / call with you and POL so that they can test your thinking.

I'd be grateful you could provide the advice by close tomorrow. It would be useful if it could again include some
speaking notes.

If you need more context, please feel free to give me a call. Best on the mobile as I'm travelling a lot today.

Kind regards
Andy

Andrew Parsons
Senior Associate
for and on behalf of Bond Dickinson LLP

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Sent: 09 July 2014 14711

To: Parsons, Andrew

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Subject: Advice and Speaking Notes.

Andy,
Please find attached the Advice of Simon Clarke which contains speaking notes as requested.

Kind regards,

Martin.

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