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Record of Tape
Recorded Interview
Person Interviewed MRCARL ADRIAN PAGE (CP) Exhibit No:
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Place of Interview Hand Morgan & Owen
17 Martin Street
Stafford Signature of interviewing
ST16 officer producing exhibit
Date of Interview 23" April 2003
Time commenced 18:54 . Time concluded 18:57 hours
Duration of interview 4 minutes Tapereferenceno 058041
Interviewing Officer(s) Manish Patel (MP) Colin Price (Colin)
Other persons present Mr Patrick Farrington (PF) ‘
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00:10 MP Okay; I’m resuming the interview it's 18:54 hours, same location and
same people are present, we're at the offices of Hand Morgan & Owen,
47 Martin Street, Stafford ST16, my name is Manish Patel and my
colleague
Colin Colin Price
MP Carl
cP Carl Adrian Page
PF Patrick Farrington
00:24 MP Carl I remind you that you remain under Caution and that is you do not
have to say anything but it may harm your defence if you do not mention
when questioned something which you later rely on in Court, anything
. you do say maybe given in evidence. Do you understand that
cP Yep, I do yeah
MP Again the legal rights as before Carl, I'll just inform you this is a I remind
voluntary interview, you're not under arrest and you do not have to
remain at this interview, if you do remain you have the right to legal
representation and you're entitled to read the Police and Criminal
Evidence Act 1984 codes of practice.
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Record of Tape Recorded Interview (continued)
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MP These were shown to you on form CS001 which you've already seen,
. can I ask you just to time it at the top there
cP Do I put number 4 on there for you
MP if you just put
cP Two
MP Two on the corner there, the time now being 18:54 still ;
cP 23".
MP ~ 23%, erm if you sign saying that I've reminded you of the caution, 18:55
now ,
cP Okay
MP That you do want Mr Farrington to remain
4 cP And now sing that do I
MP You don't you leave that one blank, thank you
cP Thank you
MP And again I remind you you can have a Post Office friend present at this
interview
cp Yeah okay, no thank you
MP Do you want a friend
cP No thank you
1:38 MP No okay, right just briefly then we stopped that interview at 18:00
because obviously we ran out of time and it was also made er, er made
me aware after we terminated that interview that Mr Farrington you have
other commitments later this evening is that right
PF Well they started at half past six but there we are
MP Right okay, and I understand the cleaner’s, do they actually kick
everyone out of this office or
PF. No erm, I! am a key holder, my keys are at home and the cleaner’s finish
at 7 O'clock
MP Okay alright, er that effectively means we're going to have to curtail the
interview
cP Okay fair enough
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Record of Tape Recorded Interview (continued)
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I. MP Today Carl
cP Alright
MP ; There are
cP I just want to put on the record that I don't mind being interviewed again,
{ got no objection to that at all
MP Great okay thank you, there are one or two little matter, we had nearly
got to the end and I'd have hoped that we'd have finished on the last
tape
cP Okay yep
MP We would have finished on this tape
cP Yep
MP But clearly that’s not going to happen, there are some matters that we
still want to discuss with you
cP Yes no problem
MP If that's okay, and I know you've mentioned that
soon and time and stuff like that so after we've finished this tape maybe
we can look at our diaries
cP Yeah no problems, I like to, I just want to clear this matter up
MP Fine okay, what I will say to you Carl is that you may have rendered
yourself liable to prosecution, do you wish to clarify or add anything
before the end of this interview
cP No, you Patrick
PF All other matters that you've raised before you've repeated, is there
anything else that you want to clarify or ask
MP Me
PF Carl
MP "Carl sorry yeah
03:41 cP No, erm one thing I will say is that I haven't taken any money out of the
. Post Office, I’ve not inflated any figures out of the Post Office and a
certain gentleman, lis obviously trying to get away with
something and by hook or by crook I'll make him pay for it
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MP Right okay, I'll caution you again and that is you do not have to say
anything but if you do not mention now something which you later rely on
in Court, anything you do say maybe given in evidence, do you
understand that
cP I understand that yes
03:48 MP Okay, alright the time now then being 18:57 hours I'm terminating this
interview.
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