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From: John Longmi
Sent: Mon 01/02/2010 3:52:00 PM (UTC)
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Subject: Fw: West Byfleet
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Attachment: 9c15.misra - 2nd interim technical expert's report 19.11.09DkResponse.doc
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Please see Dave King's responses in blue on the attachment.
Dave is going to try and find out who could provide witness statements to these answers as he feels that they
should come from different departments. This could cause problems with meeting the deadline for disclosure.
Regards,
Jon Longman
Seaurity Advisor,
Post Office Ltd, National Sequrity Team
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To: John
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01/02/2010 13:42 Collins/e/POSTOFFICE@POSTOFFICE, Andy
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Subject: Re: Fw: West Byfleet
Jon
I've had a look at the report and added my comments. Perhaps you would like to have a look through and then
give me a call?
(See attached file: 9c15.misra - 2nd interim technical expert's report 19.11.09DkResponse.doc)
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To be honest, there's nothing in this report other than a general scattering of possible issues (true of any system
where people are using it) without any evidence that these are present in Horizon. Despite the expert being an IT
consultant, there is nothing substantial in the report about the IT, it all boils down to errors through lack of
training/experience/ability if anything and that is quite firmly down to the Agent.
T would be happy to talk to you or Counsel about the case, but suspect witness statements would need to come
from Fujitsu, Network and P&BA as I've tried to indicate in my comments. Whatever else, I think you would
need to get hold of the system logs for the period in question and look to see whether there had been any failed
card transactions that may then have been settled to cash.
Always assuming this isn't just a straightforward case of cash being taken from the till, which no amount of
examining logs will tell you.
Hope this helps
Thanks
Dave King
Security Architect
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01/02/2010 08:48 Subject: Fw: West Byfleet
Dave
I understand that you met with my Line Manager, Jason Collins last week regarding the request from a defence
expert report whereby somebody in Post Office Ltd needs to respond to some technical questions by way of a
witness statement. The barrister dealing with the case on behalf of Post Office Ltd has now asked for a response
to the outstanding questions by the end of this week.
Jason has e-mailed me and said that it may be best if I contact you to get an update, hence this e-mail.
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Regards,
Jon Longrnan
Security Advisor,
Post Office Ltd, National Security Tearn
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01/02/2010 08:37 Subject: West Byfleet
Jason
Our barrister, Warwick Tatford contacted me late on Friday and said he would like a response (witness
statement) from someone in PO Ltd by the end of this week at the latest to the outstanding questions in the
defence experts report that I raised with you. Do we know who is willing in PO Ltd to respond to the questions.
Regards,
Jon Longrnan
Security Advisor,
Post Office Ltd, National Security Tearn
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