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From: Simon I Hutchinson ‘
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Sent: 28/05/2015 14:
To: Elaine.McCabé _.
Subject: RE: 1.NOT PROTECTIVELY MARKED-AII Networks: Post Office Fraud Rita O Reilly - Derrylin
Elaine
Just an update. If we believe that we are some time from a court appearance and if Horizon issues may be used to
mitigate in this case then we are of a mind to close the investigation, however this is a Police lead investigation and we
will take our direction from you.
Regards
Simon
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Security Manager
Brent House
15 Heron Road
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Subject: 1.NOT PROTECTIVELY MARKED-All Networks: Post Office Fraud Rita O Reilly - Derrylin
Simon
Further to our recent conversation re the Fraud at Derrylin Post Office,
I need a number of points clarified, I must apologise if some of the questions appear basic but in order for me to prepare
a prosecution case I require this information
What would be really useful is a full evidential statement, as to what the post office are alleging and how the post office
believe this has happened.. How are the post office saying that the money was taken twice. I would also require an
evidential statement explaining the Horizon system and specifically the transactions at Derrylin Post Office on the day of
the alleged fraud. ( Exhibit SWO1 previously supplied by Suzanne Winter lists the transactions ) It is important that this
statement is in laymans term so that I along with the PPS have a clear and concise understanding of what is being
alleged. This will also ensure that no key evidential points are being missed.
The Initial Complaint
The initial complaint and irregularities on the Post Office account show what we believe to be £21 837.20 missing from
the account, My understanding is that Rita O Reilly has entered a number of suspicious transactions on the Horizon
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System at her post office on the 23/24" July 2013, ultimately resulting in £21,837.20 being removed from the Post
Office account. On speaking to Suzanne she believed that Rita had told the Horizon System that she had received a
cheque for this amount ( this cheque never materialised ) and that she had paid out that amount, thereby leaving the
horizon system and therefore the Post Office short by £21 837.20
If this is what the Post Office are alleging, are we suggesting that she removed £21 837. 20 from the Post Office Safe,
would she have had that amount of money in the safe, would that be a normal enough amount of money to have had in
the safe at this branch? Have we any way of evidencing this?
Or has she transferred the money from the Post Office directly and if so can you show where this has gone to? I have
obtained production orders for Rita’s bank accounts and cannot see any large sums of money being transferred into her
account
Santander Complaint
The second complaint relates to a Giro Slip received by Santander in the name of B Price, for £21 787.20 this slip is dated
the 5‘ July 2013, have the transactions for that date been checked, or do we believe that this transcash slip relates to
the transaction on the 24" July 15
When a transcash slip is received at the counter, is cash automatically paid out on it?
Has the Giro Account Holder been identified, I have limited knowledge of Transcash payments but if the slip is paid in
then the money will have been paid out to them, or do we suspect this giro slip is fraudulent, what enquiries have the
Post Office made in order to identify the Account Holder
Do the post office know where the slip came from and how it relates back to the Post Office in Derrylin ( again this will
need to be evidenced )
If Santander paid out on this Giro, have they been spoken to by the Post Office, can they identify where the money went
to
How did Santander end up with this Transcash slip, surely it would have had to go through the Centre in Belfast at some
stage, is there a record of this, could this be the slip that Belfast are saying they didn’t receive?
Horizon System
The day after the interview Rita O Reilly provided two large folders detailing problems with the Horizon System and
informed me that there is a judicial review in relation to the Horizon system and wrongful convictions of Postmasters,
what is the current situation re this ?
Thanks
Elaine
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